Garry Closed the Facepunch Forums

[Kacho Mio Akiyama]

Post about how mad you are here.

[Ahilmas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/557084427172184066/588482777528139876/unknown.png Facepuch is gone for sure, but not right now for Gmod.

[Mailer]

This is really terrible for people that still wanna get into Lua and start coding for Garry's Mod because a lot of what was old and archived on Facepunch could be a really valuable source of information and examples laid out for them. The only thing people have left to go after is the Garry's Mod Wiki, which only has so many examples to apply in practice.
We're likely not going to see a lot of new modders invested with Lua-code from this point onward which really sucks for the longevity of the game, though porting models alone has thankfully not become any harder as a result.
And thankfully we already have tons of content on the workshop, and I'd wager it's enough to satisfy people for a long time forward. Hopefully this won't even be a noticeable tide-turner then but it's still a significant loss.

On a more conspiratory note, I had a small talk with a friend of mine about these losses as well, and we're both very aware of the fact that a game like S&Box is (seemingly) in development and underway to act as a substitute in a way. Given these recent events, it's very likely that a lot of people are going to abandon Lua and shift over to C#, which would then become the new foundation for modding. This suggests that it is all planned for a migration of sorts. It's not enough to deem a conspiracy alone but I still think it's an interesting point to note.

[Sigfig]

Originally posted by Mailer:

This is really terrible for people that still wanna get into Lua and start coding for Garry's Mod because a lot of what was old and archived on Facepunch could be a really valuable source of information and examples laid out for them. The only thing people have left to go after is the Garry's Mod Wiki, which only has so many examples to apply in practice.

Didn't think of that, that's pretty ♥♥♥♥. Probably will end up doing gmod lua at some point, i'm learning e2 and that's pretty disappointing.

You can still look at other addons though.

[Samson Fairfox]

Garry Newman quality individual, lets just shut the website down. Oh wait a minute stuff on that website is still important, oh well lets remove that randomly like so many other functions and features in Garry's mod too.

[Mailer]

Originally posted by Mr.fănŧâsŧic:

Originally posted by Mailer:

This is really terrible for people that still wanna get into Lua and start coding for Garry's Mod because a lot of what was old and archived on Facepunch could be a really valuable source of information and examples laid out for them. The only thing people have left to go after is the Garry's Mod Wiki, which only has so many examples to apply in practice.

Didn't think of that, that's pretty ♥♥♥♥. Probably will end up doing gmod lua at some point, i'm learning e2 and that's pretty disappointing.

You can still look at other addons though.

That's very true. Opening and examining the innards of other addons is a learning experience, and a good one at that. One I would personally support any day. But the problem is that Facepunch was a sort of meeting hub for things beyond just cooking up an addon. You can't get information about every addon without paying, maybe you had a software problem or something and needed to ask about that, and there was plenty of darkrp developers coming over, throwing their files in full of errors and then taking them back "neato-ed". I can only wonder where these people are gonna have to resort to turn their heads now, but... maybe that's for the best anyway. Help wasn't always hospitable, and especially not to the server affiliated.

[Mailer]

Originally posted by Samson Fairfox:

Garry Newman quality individual, lets just shut the website down. Oh wait a minute stuff on that website is still important, oh well lets remove that randomly like so many other functions and features in Garry's mod too.

A lot of people share a similar frustration on Garry, and from what I heard he wasn't that much of a representator for the forums either. He probably knew that and felt he wanted to terminate, though I am pretty sure it's been talked about way earlier that Facepunch's forums was destined to close eventually. Like months ago.
Anyway, I can only really agree with you and say it was a random closing, since Garry didn't say much about his final thoughts beyond the closing message.

[Micheal J's Bar & Grill]

I used the forums for models and ♥♥♥♥, now it's gone and some I was planning on getting is gone, mainly an MI 24 model

[Cryptic Runner]

I know I might sound dumb and disrespectful, but I actually don't care at all because I've never even been on the facepunch forums

[Mailer]

Originally posted by Dѻѻm:

Also, I am irritated by this for the same reasons as all the good information being gone. I was looking through the forums to learn how to fix peoples problems here, and also referring people to the Help board. Is there even a help board at the new site yet? Because I didn't find one (I'm using the Lite version and have some data-blocking browser addons, so making sure it's not obviously there somewhere and it blocked for me...)

Here. I'll send you to the correct subforum for Facepunch games. It's not much right now but... maybe we'll all be able to rebuild it at some point: https://knockout.chat/subforum/12
Can only hope that they'll eventually give Garry's Mod it's own category on the front-page, just like Facepunch had it laid out. It's a bit of a hassle to find it otherwise.

I can imagine there was a lot of good diagnostics in that forum too. Not just where lua is concerned, but also with what problems people experience every day.
Damn, I don't know, I feel gutted discussing this, because I know there were some really dedicated people there. But I guess this Steam Forum is about the only troubleshooting that's left for people that need help now.

That blog post was a good read though. I'll encourage anybody passing by to read it as well.

[RGL GM_T]

This is incredible, so much data completely lost.
The amount of tutorials and information for new developers, gone. Wow.
Garry Newman is a man child, the entire Facepunch team does not care about its users.
One example is with the S&Box development Discord, randomly banning users and the extreme amount of toxicity.
Facepunch is a disgusting development team and the hate that they're getting right now is entirely justified and they deserve more.

[RGL GM_T]

Originally posted by Cubic Ralsei:

I know I might sound dumb and disrespectful, but I actually don't care at all because I've never even been on the facepunch forums

Buddy I've seen your post on two pages now saying you don't care. You're publicly advertising that you're a misinformed individual who doesn't understand why this is important.

The Facepunch forums had a help section that provided tutorials for developers, primarily new developers. Now, if anyone had a question that was already answered, they can no longer Google search the problem and see the Facepunch forum post answering the question. It's literally in the stickied post: https://steamcommunity.com/app/4000/discussions/5/364040961451282698/

Why do you find it so important to publicly advertise that you're a misinformed individual?
Show some care, show some interest. Be a part of a better cause.

[T.w² kodamant]

this is a loss, never went on there myself but i was planning on getting into mapping and the same tutorial series can only get you so far, also wanted to cook up a weapon or two, ♥♥♥♥.

[Korki]

facepunch was a public toilet anyways thank u garry for doing this

[Kacho Mio Akiyama]

Originally posted by Korki:

facepunch was a public toilet anyways thank u garry for doing this

says the man who looks like a public toliet

[Gazhelmet]

Originally posted by Dѻѻm:

Originally posted by Mailer:

Here. I'll send you to the correct subforum for Facepunch games. It's not much right now but... maybe we'll all be able to rebuild it at some point: https://knockout.chat/subforum/12
Can only hope that they'll eventually give Garry's Mod it's own category on the front-page, just like Facepunch had it laid out. It's a bit of a hassle to find it otherwise.

I can imagine there was a lot of good diagnostics in that forum too. Not just where lua is concerned, but also with what problems people experience every day.
Damn, I don't know, I feel gutted discussing this, because I know there were some really dedicated people there. But I guess this Steam Forum is about the only troubleshooting that's left for people that need help now.

That blog post was a good read though. I'll encourage anybody passing by to read it as well.

Thank you.

So,

https://knockout.chat/subforum/12 , when viewed with noscript blocking everything, gives message:

"Sorry, this site requires Javascript, but if that isn't your thing you might want to try the Lite version?"

It's totally not my thing, so I chose Lite, which leads to:

https://lite.knockout.chat/

instead of to https://knockout.chat/subforum/12 .

Via lite.knockout.chat, I take more time to look around, and see board "Facepunch Games, " which is subforum/12. So thank you for confirming that is it is the place (closest to what I was looking for). I think I was in here already.

So the only thing resembling a proper Gmod Help place so far is the thread "Problems That Don't Need Their Own Thread. [#1]" https://lite.knockout.chat/thread/820

A replacement to https://forum.facepunch.com/gmodhelp needs to emerge, to be its own board that contains only Help threads. Or else the help will be lost in the other types of threads. I imagine something like that will develop, but for now looks like /subforum/12 is the defacto help board.


Also, page 2 here ( https://steamcommunity.com/app/4000/discussions/5/1637536330463119556/?ctp=2 ) is explaining some things. Don't miss the link https://www.wikipunch.com/index.php/Shutdown_Crisis

It appears some of the data has been saved.
Person on that thread claims https://web.archive.org/ is being used.

I don't know how much data has been automatically archived, and how much may have been grabbed manually in a last minute hurry. Or by anyone who has paid attention in the months where was warning the forum might go down. Some organization and hosting logistics may need to be figured out.

I can confirm now that the data (or a large part of it) from facepunch forum is now on https://web.archive.org/

https://web.archive.org/web/20190406030456/https://forum.facepunch.com/