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That alone is a godo enough and valid reason.
Bugs that have been around since beta, removed features and option, bad performance, high price, bad story, retconned story.........
Lets turn it around - are the any legit reasons to rate this game positively?
story is just so much ass
you have to wait like a combined hour for people to finish talking per palythrough + another for DLC
Epic ♥♥♥♥ Store is obvs a kick in the nuts so is the season pass 2 kinda
and for what you get SP2 is kinda overpriced as heck, they could ahve easily shipped Directors and Designers Cut combined for 10 Moneys
4th DLC is really really short
Performance is somewhat ass
obvs theres a lot of good parts like items and weapons being very fun to use
some nice unique characters
best gunplay in the series
DLC 1 and 2 are pretty good
DLC3 is shortish but good
DLC4 is very very short but in genreal good
.... many more postive and negative factors
after the masterpiece thats called BorderLands2 this game under delivered
The game is enjoyable, but there are legitimate reasons why some people have a problem with the game.
Many of us agree that Steam needs honest competition. But the 6 month exclusive to Epic upon launch was not it. They should have released at the same time, giving the playerbase an even choice.
The game tries to build up some types of characters, that are perceived as being secondary in society, and bring them into the spotlight. However the way it is done is by devaluing and kicking to the side the other characters. Building up by knocking others down is not the way to go. Let the characters stand on their own merits.
One of the biggest arguments is people feel there was an agenda, as it felt they were focusing "SJW" or "woke" concepts on the players. Personally I don't think it was a agenda, but it was not balanced. Those types of characters should feel part of the game world, not jar you out of it making you focus on current reality of the real world. So they tried to include more variety of characters than the typical and overshot what they were going for (in my opinion).
In the main game, the villains were too much the evil streamers. Though in BL2 Handsome Jack was a love to hate type of character, where you actually were interested in the bad guy's story and shenanigans, the twins were just loathing hate.
There are disputes on the character development and growth of Ava. I don't think it is quite as bad as others make it out to be, but I agree it is strained a bit. Hopefully another installment in the series (timeskip a bit maybe?), or even a DLC focused on her and coming to grips with it all (like Tiny Tina's DLC did for her in BL2), would allow more to see value in her.
Then there of course are the gripes of poor optimization.
Great mechanics and certainly DLCs that may be more enjoyable than the main game. Hopefully we get a BL4 that finds the sweet spot that this one missed the mark in a few places, and expands upon the mysteries still existing in the series.
So yes, there are legitimate reasons to scrutinize the game, even if you don't feel like it. Most gripes are not arbitrary, they just don't feel like giving a thesis to share their feelings about the game.
You can like the game as much as you want. I certainly enjoy it. But by saying there is no reason to have issue with the game at all is essentially telling others they are not allowed their opinions on what they like or not, which you certainly do not have the right to do.
The more troubling part for me was the Epic Games thing and all the ♥♥♥♥ that happened during launch with people being overworked and such. I don't even quite remember all of it, but I remember it being a big a$$ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Then there's also that those dlcs are, like in almost every game, kinda not worth it on their own tbh. And looking at it, although I wasn't there when it released and instead bought all of it in a bundle, the 'season pass 1 AND 2' seems also kinda scummy. If you're doing dlcs then at least have the decency to not make 2 freaking passes.
When it comes to gameplay, my biggest complained is probably that it feels way too easy. I already know that it gets harder, but normal difficulty at times is putting me to sleep, ngl.
That said, the positive is outweighing the negative for me. Gameplay in Borderlands games are so much more important to me than story. That's not to say I don't like a good story, but I just don't expect anything more than silly bs with a bunch of explosions when starting Borderlands and so far it seems like Borderlands 3 does that the best.
I haven't played any of the DLCs fully because they feel tainted and I would need a partner to stomach it for the time required. What little of DLC1 i played was just more of the same from the base game. What I played of DLC1 felt like gearbox realizing "hey, people miss jack, we should pander" and it falls flat on its face.
Borderlands 3 does what Borderlands does and it's great. The best of the series.
Borderlands may not have started out as something story based but they were definitely building to it. Borderlands 2 had a more robust plot the Borlderlands, and Pre-Sequel is filled with lore. You could still say it wasn't about the story at this point. However they outsourced a game to another company. They made "Tales from the Borderlands" which is very story driven. It's like a giant interactive cutscene.
In these games they had established plenty about the universe and the characters. However by the time Borderlands 3 arrived, we had all new staff due to the financial issues that happened after the failure of Pre-sequel to bring in good funds. And these new staff if I had to guess were cheaper as they were fresh out of an educational institution and feel the need to put political agendas into things they write as the world they've been subjected to is politically charged as it has been since the 2008 recession caused unrest and increased struggling for all kinds of communities globally, however that's a different issue altogether and is not exclusive to this game. Point being is that the new writers didn't properly understand the characters that were given to them. If you look at several of the characters from previous games that appear in Borderlands 3, you can see the drastic change in personality.
Of course it goes without saying that characters do grow and progress over time. However the execution of that was terrible in this game. In this game there is a "5 years have passed" clause invoked. Where that is a crutch that the characters and setting rely on to justify the change.
How did the COV spread across the universe without anyone doing anything?
-It's been 5 years.
Why is Mordecai the punchline for Tina and Bricks jokes, despite the fact in Borderlands 2 the relationship between those 3 characters and those 3 characters didn't behave anything like that?
-It's been 5 years
Where are all the BL2 vault hunters?
-It's been 5 years, they left? Wait you don't like that, let us quickly shove them all back into the game awkwardly.
Where was that big event that was teased at the end of BL2 and Pre-sequel?
-It's been 5 years. Exactly, why hasn't it happened yet. Also they retconned this stuff in the Director cut DLC I think with the Ava Podcast questline.
Largely the reason people hate this game is because they were a fan of the franchise before but the franchise turned into something else entirely in anything but gameplay. So those of us who cared about the world the games were building largely dislike a lot of the ways they developed it from the state they had it at after Tales From the Borderlands
Everyone has their own reason to hate on the game, and those are all valid. Sorry but just because their opinion doesn't agree with yours does not make it invalid.
Though I may concur some people take it too far, to say there are no valid reasons at all is ignorance in itself, if not your own personal prejudice against the opinions of others.
If you really take a look at the hate on this game, the unfounded assertions of "bad story," "bad characters," all amount to invalid reasons. It's a video game, people like to troll about video games. Most of that is jokes, and therefore invalid. Real criticism, like if the game is broken or too short are valid because they deal with the game itself. But, people disliking the story isn't a valid reason ABOUT the game, it's mostly about themselves and what they like.
Story is part of the game. If someone takes issue because the story is poorly written, doesn't line up with how the lore was going, doesn't handle context to their liking, timing of events compared to the action going on, etc. then they have their own valid reason to hate the game. The game is more than just the guns.
Yes there are the weak-minded trolls out there to jump on the bandwagon and just take issue for no other reason than to rile people up. That still doesn't mean there are no valid reasons for others to hate the game, just no reason for you personally. You do not speak for everyone else.
But, by all means, indulge the BL3 haters. Soothe their troubled egos or validate their opinions -- it's your time.
if you like b3's story (which had plot holes, retcons and sudden drastic changes to personalities of some returning borderlands characters (or even them being entirely absent from the main story of b3)), then good for you. other people can dislike b3 story too. or don't care about it. thats all i'll say to that.
It is not their fautl when you are unable to comprehend factual criticism.
It would be nice if you were a troll, but sadly you are not even capable of that.
Sure, lets to tha. Your complete lack of understanding of the story, support of blatant sexist and racist subtones as well as the attempt of rewritting the history of the game - that is all showing that you like and how you behave - ok, if you say so.
You seem to have a lot in common with some of the more prominent figures of this game.....