Dont do PC/WOKE garbage in borderlands 4

[LigmaLlama]

Like did for 3... please cut that garbage and keep the woke out..
We don't need that woke pc love garbage

[Percello]

Do you mean the original meaning of "Woke" started by POC meaning "alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination".

--- OR ---

Do you mean the 2010's version of "Woke" meaning "broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights."

Personally, I hope the entire game has all versions of "Woke" in it just to piss off the bigots. Plus, anyone who played all the Borderlands knows it has been this way from the beginning. So, if it's just now bothering you, this might not be the game for you.

[Bankai9212]

Why keep saying bl3 is woke? Do people not know the meaning of the word anymore.

[Junipercat]

Awareness and broader awareness are fine. The issue is when they put characters in a video game to push those reasons or check a list, especially if that takes away from the story or changes characters/devalues others as a result.

In the end, are we creating the next video game in a series or pushing an agenda instead? Time and place, choose your venue, etc.

So "woke" these days has pushed from the original meaning to referencing those going overboard, either (metaphorically) carrying pitchforks and torches or demanding stories be changed to put their preferred representation in regardless of other consequences.

This is why I say create a new game series that is built on all that from the start as opposed to tearing apart an existing one just to fit an agenda or quota.

[Tard Startler]

agree

[Flame]

sir this is a video game

[Junipercat]

Their claim that "Borderlands has been this way since the beginning" shows they haven't paid attention. There was a drastic shift in BL3 from what the game series was about to pushing something else ahead of story and character development.

BL4 being good or bad could swing either way. I just hope it isn't "good enough" so they aren't stringing the player base along hoping for the big improvement in a BL5. Whatever info they release in the next year is going to set the tone of BL4's launch. So they better take this seriously.

[JimRaynor67]

the industry is scum. It has been since the 1970s. quit pretending these people are committing some act of nobility by making a stupid product that motivates people to sit motionless for hours staring into a flat 2D screen less than 3 meters from their face.

YOu know .. the #1 video game country in the world is South Korea and they also have a myopia rate over 50% and their young people have myopia over 75%. South Korea has great Starcraft players though! ! ! LOL.

The industry is scum and it promotes unhealthy living habits. Quit pretending otherwise.

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Why keep saying bl3 is woke? Do people not know the meaning of the word anymore.

they promote whatever the random agenda of the times are to distract from their misdeeds and criminal behaviour. wake up man... wake up.

[JimRaynor67]

Originally posted by JimRaynor67:

the industry is scum. It has been since the 1970s. quit pretending these people are committing some act of nobility by making a stupid product that motivates people to sit motionless for hours staring into a flat 2D screen less than 3 meters from their face.

YOu know .. the #1 video game country in the world is South Korea and they also have a myopia rate over 50% and their young people have myopia over 75%. South Korea has great Starcraft players though! ! ! LOL.

The industry is scum and it promotes unhealthy living habits. Quit pretending otherwise.

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Why keep saying bl3 is woke? Do people not know the meaning of the word anymore.

they promote whatever the random agenda of the times are to distract from their misdeeds and criminal behaviour. wake up man... wake up.

when they hire people they use their "noble cause" as a point in their favour so that the employee will work AT BELOW their market value.

Video Game Megacorp hiring a new employee:"Here you go... for money we will give you half of what you're worth... and here is a gay pride flag... wave that around... you're amazing"

The top execs are laughing their asses off all the way to the bank while the employees go blind staring into screens 75 hours a week as they wave a gay pride flag. High Myopia amongst video game employees is over 30$.

I guess you are blind to this because you two have high myopia.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by JimRaynor67:

the industry is scum. It has been since the 1970s. quit pretending these people are committing some act of nobility by making a stupid product that motivates people to sit motionless for hours staring into a flat 2D screen less than 3 meters from their face.

YOu know .. the #1 video game country in the world is South Korea and they also have a myopia rate over 50% and their young people have myopia over 75%. South Korea has great Starcraft players though! ! ! LOL.

The industry is scum and it promotes unhealthy living habits. Quit pretending otherwise.

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Why keep saying bl3 is woke? Do people not know the meaning of the word anymore.

they promote whatever the random agenda of the times are to distract from their misdeeds and criminal behaviour. wake up man... wake up.

What agenda is being pushed in 3? Borderlands was about pop culture references, as for everything else you are spouting some nonsense.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by JimRaynor67:

Originally posted by JimRaynor67:

the industry is scum. It has been since the 1970s. quit pretending these people are committing some act of nobility by making a stupid product that motivates people to sit motionless for hours staring into a flat 2D screen less than 3 meters from their face.

YOu know .. the #1 video game country in the world is South Korea and they also have a myopia rate over 50% and their young people have myopia over 75%. South Korea has great Starcraft players though! ! ! LOL.

The industry is scum and it promotes unhealthy living habits. Quit pretending otherwise.

they promote whatever the random agenda of the times are to distract from their misdeeds and criminal behaviour. wake up man... wake up.

when they hire people they use their "noble cause" as a point in their favour so that the employee will work AT BELOW their market value.

Video Game Megacorp hiring a new employee:"Here you go... for money we will give you half of what you're worth... and here is a gay pride flag... wave that around... you're amazing"

The top execs are laughing their asses off all the way to the bank while the employees go blind staring into screens 75 hours a week as they wave a gay pride flag. High Myopia amongst video game employees is over 30$.

I guess you are blind to this because you two have high myopia.

That is pretty much any job field why aim it at video games?

[ZTempest]

Honestly, I don't care, but I will say this --

I don't like having someone else's values forced in my face. I don't force my values on others, and I would appreciate the same consideration.

I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own homes or bedrooms. That is their business. I had no problems withi Wainwright/Hammerlock for instance - those are choices that they made (as written in the script) and not situations where they were forcing my character into that mold or forcing my character to join that behavior.

I DO care about situations that would force my charactor to do something that I disagree with. For example -- I don't swing the other way, but forcing whatever character I have in the game to bat for the same team in order to achieve a game goal or objective is not something I would agree with.

I don't care about the racial features of the main playable character, but I do like having the ability to choose my race/color. That allows anyone who has that sort of preference the ability to choose.

I do care about the sexuality of my character - for instance, I typically do not play female characters -- it breaks immersion for me. Borderlands is one of those games that is gender-locked, which means I miss out on about 50% of the game more or less. I am sort of surprised that nobody has brought that up. Maybe BL4 will not be genderlocked.

[Bankai9212]

Hammerlock was gay since 2 it just like anyone else with a preference it didn't define who he is as a character.

As for gender why should that effect you playing them. Outside of emotes its a first person game and how is playing the opposite sex immersion breaking when the game isn't the immersive to begin with?

[kameltoes]

I will never use someone's preferred pronouns. I will never conform to BS gender idealogues

[Senki]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

This is why I say create a new game series that is built on all that from the start as opposed to tearing apart an existing one just to fit an agenda or quota.

they'll never do that because they know no one will buy their garbage. The only way they will ever get any amount of attention is by latching onto popular IPs to spread their garbage until they burn them to the ground

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by ZTempest:

Honestly, I don't care, but I will say this --

I don't like having someone else's values forced in my face. I don't force my values on others, and I would appreciate the same consideration.

I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own homes or bedrooms. That is their business. I had no problems withi Wainwright/Hammerlock for instance - those are choices that they made (as written in the script) and not situations where they were forcing my character into that mold or forcing my character to join that behavior.

I DO care about situations that would force my charactor to do something that I disagree with. For example -- I don't swing the other way, but forcing whatever character I have in the game to bat for the same team in order to achieve a game goal or objective is not something I would agree with.

I don't care about the racial features of the main playable character, but I do like having the ability to choose my race/color. That allows anyone who has that sort of preference the ability to choose.

I do care about the sexuality of my character - for instance, I typically do not play female characters -- it breaks immersion for me. Borderlands is one of those games that is gender-locked, which means I miss out on about 50% of the game more or less. I am sort of surprised that nobody has brought that up. Maybe BL4 will not be genderlocked.

Borderlands hasn't been a game series to build your character like a full RPG. They include 4 or more pre-written Vault Hunters. They are specific characters with their own story, not something for you to build the own backstory of. This is a core component of the series and expected to continue.

Comes down to either you choose the character that you like the best or find another game. You customize your skills, not your story, gender, orientation or anything else. Many video game series are like this.