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Veniulem May 24, 2024 @ 8:08pm
is FL4K still the most OP character?
I played when this first came out on EPIC launcher, back then FL4K could 1 shot any boss on the hardest difficulty, can he still do that? or has it been patched or has another character become OP?
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Casurin (Banned) May 25, 2024 @ 12:27am 
He was never the most OP - not even close.
but 1shoting bosses during the normal gameplay is rather easy (as is the entire game).
If you want OP-easy - Moze.
Bankai9212 May 25, 2024 @ 5:56am 
It’s between moze and zane, flak was good before they nerfed guerrilla in the mist.
Kobeth May 25, 2024 @ 6:08am 
I think FL4K is the weakest currently mostly because of his mediocre sustain. He can still deal an impressive amount of damage, especially for bossing, but for mobbing you better take into account his lack of survivability.
Bankai9212 May 25, 2024 @ 7:15am 
With mobs he can just use Jacob crits to clear rooms, not to mention the creature that can provide some healing.
₢ Cryptic Chipp May 27, 2024 @ 5:54pm 
Flak relies heavily on his pets, he's pretty useless without them, and even then only 1 pet is actually viable due to how the ai controls them.

Zane and Moze are your "ez modes". Moze is just flatout broken as where Zane is just a more fun version of bl2 zero.
Darth Cannabis May 27, 2024 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by BD: Tracer/Chipp:
Flak relies heavily on his pets, he's pretty useless without them, and even then only 1 pet is actually viable due to how the ai controls them.

Zane and Moze are your "ez modes". Moze is just flatout broken as where Zane is just a more fun version of bl2 zero.

I always saw Zane as more of a hybrid between Timothy (Jack's Double) and Wilhelm from the pre sequel.

His clone is much more similar to Jack's clone than Zero's and and his drone is just like a combination of Wilhelm's 2 drones. Then after the 4th tree gave him a shoulder cannon option, it made it even more like he was a hybrid of the 2.
TheSmilingDoom May 27, 2024 @ 11:58pm 
Moze is straight out the easiest to blaze through, her mech has been vastly improved compared to the beginning days. Ultimately it depends more on your build and especially your items. They have added content like the Arms Race and Ava's stories that include some extremely powerful gear. I just had a little chat and learned that Amara, a character I was never that fond of, is perhaps the most insane death machine in the endgame if you have the right gear.
All characters are valid, balance of power shifts a bit over the course of the level range, and gear, anointments and synergy effects really determine if you are OP or not.
Apparently Moze was always best until the purple skill trees dropped and then Zane got bumped up to #1 with Moze a close second. I'm not sure who the positions of #3 and #4 go to though.

I solo so I don't really like playing a siren (Amara). It's easier for me to project a hologram of Zane to back me up, deploy my mech as Moze, or use my pet to distract enemies as Fl4k. So I'd say Amara is prob the worst for my playstyle.

Different characters can optimize different weapons better than others though, so each one is the best at something, just depends if that something is what you like doing/using.
Kiwi May 30, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Crusader (Banned13x):
Apparently Moze was always best until the purple skill trees dropped and then Zane got bumped up to #1 with Moze a close second.

Purple tree makes Zane now have the worst FFYL of all characters. Replacing Amara's gun/driver playstyle, and Eraser 1 shots aren't enough to outweigh that.
Moze gets another tier 1 fire damage with mayhem scaling, multiplicative cryo damage and faster utilization of ASE anointments. She is still #1 overall.

FFYL can be ignored if you rarely go down, but it will inevitably happen. Zane loses so much damage, so unless you are running SNTNL 100% cryo for some reason or have Old-U available, he will have a difficult time getting back up on his own.
Last edited by Kiwi; May 30, 2024 @ 2:24pm
Kobeth May 31, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Kiwi:
Originally posted by Crusader (Banned13x):
Apparently Moze was always best until the purple skill trees dropped and then Zane got bumped up to #1 with Moze a close second.

Purple tree makes Zane now have the worst FFYL of all characters. Replacing Amara's gun/driver playstyle, and Eraser 1 shots aren't enough to outweigh that.
Moze gets another tier 1 fire damage with mayhem scaling, multiplicative cryo damage and faster utilization of ASE anointments. She is still #1 overall.

FFYL can be ignored if you rarely go down, but it will inevitably happen. Zane loses so much damage, so unless you are running SNTNL 100% cryo for some reason or have Old-U available, he will have a difficult time getting back up on his own.

You should never go to FFYL with Zane really because Zane has probably the best sustain out of all the characters, but if you do it's extremely easy to get back up with clone, so I don't really know what you are on about.
Kiwi May 31, 2024 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Kobeth:
Originally posted by Kiwi:

Purple tree makes Zane now have the worst FFYL of all characters. Replacing Amara's gun/driver playstyle, and Eraser 1 shots aren't enough to outweigh that.
Moze gets another tier 1 fire damage with mayhem scaling, multiplicative cryo damage and faster utilization of ASE anointments. She is still #1 overall.

FFYL can be ignored if you rarely go down, but it will inevitably happen. Zane loses so much damage, so unless you are running SNTNL 100% cryo for some reason or have Old-U available, he will have a difficult time getting back up on his own.

You should never go to FFYL with Zane really because Zane has probably the best sustain out of all the characters, but if you do it's extremely easy to get back up with clone, so I don't really know what you are on about.
My point exactly. Which is why I wrote
unless you (...) have Old-U available
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It's a trade off for his best sustain. I forgot to mention Urad but to some it might not be worth sacrificing a slot for it.
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Date Posted: May 24, 2024 @ 8:08pm
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