Stuttering Issues

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having massive fps drops, (60-90 to 5-10?) cpu and gpu usage also goes down.
RTX 2060
i3 10105f
12gb 2267mhz ram (overclocked)
1080p res

[Krythic]

RTX 3070 here. No issues. Well, I did discover that if I get too high up there is a sudden frame drop. Something tells me the game devs didn't account for correct or comprehensive occlusion culling over what's technically an "Out of bounds" area.

Game runs fine other than that.

[Cookie]

Havent played the game since about 2 months ago when i had windows 10. Windows 11 it stutters whenever I'm loading something new. Never had this issue before. Might be win 11 if you use it.

[Bankai9212]

It’s unreal engine 4, even with shader caching studdering can still happen from time to time. We can only hope u5 doesn’t have this issue.

[𝗺𝘀𝗱]

the issue appears to be my ram capacity... i've closed discord (eats 400mb of ram) and played the game without any problems, so yeah that's about it.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by msd:

12gb 2267mhz ram (overclocked)

Originally posted by msd:

the issue appears to be my ram capacity... i've closed discord (eats 400mb of ram) and played the game without any problems, so yeah that's about it.

That RAM seems a bit strange. In general you do not want to have mismatching Kits - so you would either get 8GB or 16GB in total. But 12 seems like you got 3x4GB or 1x8 + 2x4, or 2x4 +2x2 - neither are good to have.

And 2267 MHz "overclocked" ? The i3 10105F does not support memory-overclocking and 2267MHz is also not possible with DDR4 - do you mean 2666 (which is the officially supported memory speed) ?


If closing discord helps then i would also suggest looking into memory-usage if that really was the cause and not other things like Discord simply being faulty (not uncommon), or having an overlay enabled that messes with the game.

Cause i know from experience that 8GB are plenty enough for the game unless you have some really bad settings... that said have you tried changing the graphics settings?

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my ram loodout is 1x8+1x4 (same model) i overclocked them to 2267 with xmp, i know that 1x8+1x4 setup is not really healthy for the motherboard but whatever.

[Leopard]

Best recommendation for RAM is 16GB but not the best graphic settings. Try medium or lower.

12GB RAM is better at low.

Stuttering can be cause by Shift server connection issues, if you play the game longer you might notice the the stuttering will stutter lesser over time.

So, for your case it is recommended to set your graphics to low.

[Jill sandwich]

You can try to play around with this ini settings in Documents\My Games\Borderlands 3\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\GameUserSettings.ini

This are my modified values:

[ScalabilityGroups]
sg.ResolutionQuality=100.000000
sg.ViewDistanceQuality=2
sg.AntiAliasingQuality=3
sg.ShadowQuality=2
sg.PostProcessQuality=2
sg.TextureQuality=2
sg.EffectsQuality=1
sg.FoliageQuality=1

It helped a lot for me, im playing with a very old pc and the stuttering was reduced considerably and there is no noticeable quality loss.

The line that have the most impact is sg.PostProcessQuality at least for me. You can lower it to 1 but all fake lights will disappear and only real lights will render so the game will look a lot darker so if anyone with a potato PC want to try that value make sure you crank up brightness and obscurity to maximum in the in game options to compensate, the game runs a lot better but it has that side effect, so it's preferable to use the value 2 unless necessary.

[Nemesis2k7]

dont run the game on ultra. If you use Nvidias anti lag feature, turn it off. Set texture streaming to high.

[Draxuss]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

dont run the game on ultra. If you use Nvidias anti lag feature, turn it off. Set texture streaming to high.

Yeah trust this guy he knows everything...just ask him.

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by msd:

i know that 1x8+1x4 setup is not really healthy for the motherboard but whatever.

So you knowingly use something unhealthy for your setup, view it as whatever/don't care, and want help with your issues without fixing obvious problems?

Best to have matching pairs of amount of RAM, the same model (8GB and 4GB are not the same model, even if the same brand and series of RAM sticks). I would replace the 4 with an 8 to give you an even spread of 16. Make sure they are in the primary slots of course. Leave the 4 out.

Also try playing the game without messing with overclocking. Game is not optimized the best to begin with so doesn't always like when you mess with those stock settings.

May try reducing graphics settings though to see if that helps.

As mentioned, hopefully you're not using Win 11 as the game does not support it yet. So with Win 11 you use at your own risk.

[𝗺𝘀𝗱]

Originally posted by Junipercat:

Originally posted by msd:

i know that 1x8+1x4 setup is not really healthy for the motherboard but whatever.

So you knowingly use something unhealthy for your setup, view it as whatever/don't care, and want help with your issues without fixing obvious problems?

Best to have matching pairs of amount of RAM, the same model (8GB and 4GB are not the same model, even if the same brand and series of RAM sticks). I would replace the 4 with an 8 to give you an even spread of 16. Make sure they are in the primary slots of course. Leave the 4 out.

Also try playing the game without messing with overclocking. Game is not optimized the best to begin with so doesn't always like when you mess with those stock settings.

May try reducing graphics settings though to see if that helps.

As mentioned, hopefully you're not using Win 11 as the game does not support it yet. So with Win 11 you use at your own risk.

i mean voltage and everyting has the same rate??? ofc i will use 8x1+4x1 setup if every single rate has the same value. im playing resident evil village and god of war without any problems, issue is not in the ram it may be the capacity, but i do not think so.

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also i've tried without overclocking the ram, stuttering still contuniues when discord application is on. Without discord there is no stuttering at all, but sometimes it crashes when i press alt tab.

[Junipercat]

Not just voltage. How you pair the RAM works on how they sort it all out together. Since Borderlands 3 is not as optimized as other games, things like that can have a bigger impact. Comparing to Resident Evil or God of War is useless in that regard as they probably are better optimized.

So if you have spare 8GB sticks that match, or perhaps can borrow, then you can at least test it and see how it does. Though I personally would have it matched going forward to be safe (and 16GB is pretty standard now anyway).

If you're on Win 11 you may just have to deal with it until they make any updates to solidly support the new OS (though I wouldn't hold my breath).

Try both with the current Nvidia drivers or rolling back (make sure clean install either way).

Age and power of PSU can matter as well as BL3 tends to draw more than other games because of the sub-optimization.

Naturally verify case and fans are cleaned out (including PSU, GPU, and CPU fans) just to be sure they are not throttling you because of any overheating just during this game.

Beyond that check your BIOS for any settings to adjust overall settings (power saving, balance, performance) that might be telling your setup to throttle when you don't want it to.

But if it is just happening when the Discord application is on, that makes it a bit more likely the issue is between that and BL3 your RAM is not allocating resources efficiently. I lay the initial cause on BL3's sub-optimization, but matching RAM should be easy to test.

Of course check your Discord settings in case there is something that just doesn't like BL3 for some reason.

Just some suggestions. Without an error message to narrow it down there is so much to check to find the root cause of an issue.

[Casurin]

Originally posted by msd:

i mean voltage and everyting has the same rate??? ofc i will use 8x1+4x1 setup if every single rate has the same value. im playing resident evil village and god of war without any problems, issue is not in the ram it may be the capacity, but i do not think so.

There are many more settings to memory than just voltage and frequency - most of which are hidden in sub-menues IF the board and CPU combo even allows you to see those.
And even when those 2 show support for the same ratings does not mean they work together with those settings.
There is a reason why most Motherboards even have a list of officially supported memory - often with the extra note that only using a single type of memory is allowed, so No official support for mixed memory.
Even further basically every motherboard has a guid on which memory-channels need to be used together.

If ANY of those are not followed you might get seriously degraded performance.
In the best case scenario that would mean that out of the 12 GB you have 8 can be used at full dualchannel-speed while the other 4 run at singlechannel (half the bandwidth) which already can lead to stuttering.
And that is the BEST possible scenario you could have with your setup.