BL3 is amazing and the story isnt really worse than the other games IMO.

[Bumblebro]

So far the story itself is just as flat and edgy as the other games. I really dont get why people were Sh**ing all over it, its fine - all i care about (and i guess many other people) is the shooting and looting and the fun grind.
Are the Twins as cool as Handsome jack? Nah but they are fine mostly so far.

I also didnt have to skip anything, pacing was fine.
Also quiet enjoyed the sidequests.

Gunplay is the best in the series, hands down.

Still hate the DLC-Fest that is borderlands and will wait for a deep sale before i tackle any of it if its worth it...

[Diogenes49]

Escrito originalmente por Lenn Reegar:

Escrito originalmente por NITRO:

I'll say once again, the game says the rewards are cut in half, but that's not true. They remain the same. Want mathematical proof? Ok, fine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK1JfFB1X2M

The exp, Eridium, and money drops are cut in half, think those are the rewards they mean.

youtube videos are selected to prove a point there are doxens of websites out there that talk about m10 vs m11 differences I chose mentalmars because they are usually accurate bot lootlemon says the same thing and so goes gearbox itself GOOGLE bl3 m10 vs m11

[Aidenel]

Escrito originalmente por NITRO:

Escrito originalmente por Lenn Reegar:

The exp, Eridium, and money drops are cut in half, think those are the rewards they mean.

They are also not affected by it.

I'd say its bugged then, as the Mayhem screen literally shows the Eridium, exp, and money loot drops all go down by 50%.
edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2581067854
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2581068090

[NITRO]

Escrito originalmente por Diogenes49:

Escrito originalmente por Lenn Reegar:

The exp, Eridium, and money drops are cut in half, think those are the rewards they mean.

youtube videos are selected to prove a point there are doxens of websites out there that talk about m10 vs m11 differences I chose mentalmars because they are usually accurate bot lootlemon says the same thing and so goes gearbox itself GOOGLE bl3 m10 vs m11

He literally did hundreds of tests and posted all the statistical data there. Tons of other testings shows that theres no drop difference between Mayhem 10 and 11.

Escrito originalmente por Lenn Reegar:

Escrito originalmente por NITRO:

They are also not affected by it.

I'd say its bugged then, as the Mayhem screen literally shows the Eridium, exp, and money loot drops all go down by 50%.
edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2581067854
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2581068090

Yes, the screen says that, but it is wrong. Some sources claimed that the lower drop was only for world drops, but thats also not the case.

Personally, even if they cut they actually rewards by 90% I'd still play on MH 11 because I simply can't be arsed to have a bunch of insta-death skulls moving towards me every time I kill an enemy + having my character constantly screaming because a puddle of fire formed underneath her because I stopped moving like a maniac for 0.045 seconds + having random enemies being imune to some elemental damage.

But since its not the case, it is 100% worth it

[Flamb]

Well if you think the story isn't an absolute garbage, then I suggest perhaps switching on your brain for a moment and reading a good book, like Dune or 1984, after which, I am sure, you'll understand why is BL3 a massive, stinking, brain dead trash worthy of Disney adaptation for a movie with plot quality on the level of new Star Wars movies. GTFO here troll...

[Diogenes49]

The dune series are almost all very good Also if you want to understand love guns and tentacles read HP Lovecraft

[Holografix]

Escrito originalmente por Flamb:

Well if you think the story isn't an absolute garbage, then I suggest perhaps switching on your brain for a moment and reading a good book, like Dune or 1984, after which, I am sure, you'll understand why is BL3 a massive, stinking, brain dead trash worthy of Disney adaptation for a movie with plot quality on the level of new Star Wars movies. GTFO here troll...

lmao
people are losing their minds over BL3...

[Alexandre de Moraes]

I've been playing BL for 6 years now. Definitely one of my favourite games out there. Love 'em all.
But Borderlands 3 is the one I don't like very much. I don't know. I don't feel like playing it like the others. It's nice and all, but still... To be honest I enjoyed The Pre Sequel more.

GOOD
- Gunplay. The best in the series.
- Weapons. A lot of new weapons along with remastered old ones.
- Movements. Running, sliding, jumping, parkour, punching barrels.
- New element: radiation. I love the concept.
- Enemies. A lot of them. Sometimes I can't even understand what's going on in my screen.
- You can active Seasonal Events any time since the last update.
- The 4 main DLCs are awesome. The concept, the design, the atmosphere, the sound, the enemies, the bosses, the weapons.
- Mayhem mode. I prefer it than the old normal-true-ultimate vault hunter mode system.
- New action skills system and augments.
- New Tediore reloading. Guns with small legs because yes.
- Bandit/Scav weapons. Finally we can use anything apart from their rocket launchers.

BAD
- Story. And the problem is not Ava. The problem is the deus ex-machina writing. They just killed everything BL 2 and TPS created and came up with solutions straight from their a***es. I was liking the story until the events with Sir Hammerlock and his sister. After that, especially after that event with Patricia, I started hating this storytelling. The ending is also a piece of garbage, in my opinion. I enjoyed all the DLCs stories (especially the first DLC), but couldn't enjoy the main game story.
- Main characters. I think they lack in personality. FL4-K is Zer0 but with no haikus, Zane is annoying and Amara is meh. Moze reminds me of Roland, but also meh.
- Season Pass 2. I don't endorse this kind of thing, but since I'm a b**** about everything Borderlands I bought it. Everything apart from the 4th skill tree is a piece of trash. Actually it's the only reason to buy it.
- Legendary weapons everywhere. You just don't feel that they are legendary anymore. One of the main reasons why BL 2 was such an awesome game was legendary farming. I guess generation Z don't like spending 30 minutes trying to get a Fastball or Unkempt Harold. And the worst thing is that this game has a lot of awesome non-legendary weapons. But why would you use it, since legendaries are so much superior? I feel that I enjoyed weapons better in BL 2.
- Maliwan. I used to love them. Now I just don't like these weapons anymore.
- Enemies screams. They're just annoying in this game, especially the female psychos. The only funny line I can remember is that one "you'll remember my name which is..." and dies. BL 2 was really funny, especially when you killed them with fire. "I SMELL DAHLICIOUS!!!!!".

UNACCEPTABLE
- Epic Games exclusivity. Do I really have to say how indecent this is?
- Optimization and bugs. Especially optimization.

[NITRO]

Escrito originalmente por Chico:

I enjoyed all the DLCs stories (especially the first DLC), but couldn't enjoy the main game story.

The DLCs were the saving grace of this game, the only time I truly felt I was playing a Borderlands game again and not some generic looter shooter with pretty graphics was when I finished DLC 1. That ending was really nice. But even so this game god the lower end of the stick considering BL2 had all those other minor and crazy DLCs like the one Mr. Torgue paid us to kill a giant chicken and then got to hear bedtime stories from his grandmother.

[Spooky Cat 🐾💕]

Escrito originalmente por Chico:

I enjoyed all the DLCs stories (especially the first DLC), but couldn't enjoy the main game story.

The DLCs were super nice, and while there was a whole lot more room for the devs to try much harder to make a decent main story, I feel like there really was no way for them to make up a story or villain(s) as good or as enjoyable as Jack was in the previous games. If It wasn't gonna be the Twins, we would've gotten another two-bit wannabe villain under some form or another, so in the end I guess it was unavoidable. There really is no living up to the legend Jack is. He was too well-written.

[Alexandre de Moraes]

Escrito originalmente por Spooky Cat 🐾💕:

Escrito originalmente por Chico:

I enjoyed all the DLCs stories (especially the first DLC), but couldn't enjoy the main game story.

The DLCs were super nice, and while there was a whole lot more room for the devs to try much harder to make a decent main story, I feel like there really was no way for them to make up a story or villain(s) as good or as enjoyable as Jack was in the previous games. If It wasn't gonna be the Twins, we would've gotten another two-bit wannabe villain under some form or another, so in the end I guess it was unavoidable. There really is no living up to the legend Jack is. He was too well-written.

I disagree.
Gearbox already did good villains before and after Handsome Jack.

In BL 1 General Knoxx was awesome. I loved his style. A brillant but tired military, surrounded by idiots, who decided to take control over the operation just to give you a motive to end his life.
The final boss from Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage. I think his name was Piston. Also awesome. Definitely the ultimate coward.
Hector, from Commander Lilith's and the Fight for Sanctuary DLC. Also good.
Colonel Tungsteena Zarpadon, sadly, could have offered much more. She was loyal, fair, proud and fierce. She could've been a great ally if we weren't on opposite sides.

And my favorite villain apart from Handsome Jack: 5h4d0w-TP. What is more awesome than a Clap-Trap? A dark, evil Clap-Trap. I consider ECLIPSE and EOS (his second and third form, respectively) to be the best boss fight in the entire franchise.

Gearbox has (or had) very good writers. They had no excuse. But I believe that they were more focused on the concept of streamers, youtubers and twitch.tv'ers.
When I saw the Tannis event I had the impression that Marvel writers took over Gearbox.

[Alexandre de Moraes]

Escrito originalmente por NITRO:

Escrito originalmente por Chico:

I enjoyed all the DLCs stories (especially the first DLC), but couldn't enjoy the main game story.

The DLCs were the saving grace of this game, the only time I truly felt I was playing a Borderlands game again and not some generic looter shooter with pretty graphics was when I finished DLC 1. That ending was really nice. But even so this game god the lower end of the stick considering BL2 had all those other minor and crazy DLCs like the one Mr. Torgue paid us to kill a giant chicken and then got to hear bedtime stories from his grandmother.

WHY BE A HERO WHEN YOU COULD EAT ONE????

[Holografix]

Escrito originalmente por Chico:

I disagree.
Gearbox already did good villains before and after Handsome Jack.

In BL 1 General Knoxx was awesome. I loved his style. A brillant but tired military, surrounded by idiots, who decided to take control over the operation just to give you a motive to end his life.
The final boss from Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage. I think his name was Piston. Also awesome. Definitely the ultimate coward.
Hector, from Commander Lilith's and the Fight for Sanctuary DLC. Also good.
Colonel Tungsteena Zarpadon, sadly, could have offered much more. She was loyal, fair, proud and fierce. She could've been a great ally if we weren't on opposite sides.

And my favorite villain apart from Handsome Jack: 5h4d0w-TP. What is more awesome than a Clap-Trap? A dark, evil Clap-Trap. I consider ECLIPSE and EOS (his second and third form, respectively) to be the best boss fight in the entire franchise.

Gearbox has (or had) very good writers. They had no excuse. But I believe that they were more focused on the concept of streamers, youtubers and twitch.tv'ers.
When I saw the Tannis event I had the impression that Marvel writers took over Gearbox.

I agree with you about the Borderlands bosses. 5h4dow-TP was so good, I loved that DLC. I think Claptastic Voyage is better than Tiny Tina's Assault on DragonKeep. The D&D stuff bored me. I also liked that one weird wooly mammoth boss in Borderlands 1, The Rakk Hive.

Plus what about all those minor bosses in BL1, BL2, and TPS? Shank, Moxxie's ex-lover, from BL1, Wilhelm from BL2, Piston (like you mentioned), and from TPS -- Deadlift, The Bosun, Red Belly, they are all fun.

Personally, i still think Borderlands 3 is the best on every category, even story because I like how BL3 tried to move on from the older characters and killed off the remaining villain/heros from TPS (namely Baroness). They kept the CLaptrap lore going from TPS, by having you recover pieces from dead claptraps. I liked how a lot of the Eridian lore is expounded upon via the Rune story-teller Nyriad. The Sirens take center stage in BL3, which is smart because I remember wondering in the other games about how powerful and rare the Sirens are (only 6 at a time, or something like that) and how they should have their own game.

Anyway, I could keep going...

[ANDS!]

Hard disagree with the OP. The story in BL1 was okayish, and the story in BL2 was bonkers, meme-cringey and overall a good time. The story in BL3 was all over the gods damned place and had some incredibly bullshot moments. Typhus was an OK character but the Twins were easily the second worst part of the game (we all know what the first was). You can argue that Handsome Jack was WAY over the topbut at least he was able to keep your interest through the game. The twins were damned Twitch-Streamers who they tried to add some pathos to towards the end it just falls flat.

[Holografix]

Escrito originalmente por ANDS!:

Hard disagree with the OP. The story in BL1 was okayish, and the story in BL2 was bonkers, meme-cringey and overall a good time. The story in BL3 was all over the gods damned place and had some incredibly bullshot moments. Typhus was an OK character but the Twins were easily the second worst part of the game (we all know what the first was). You can argue that Handsome Jack was WAY over the topbut at least he was able to keep your interest through the game. The twins were damned Twitch-Streamers who they tried to add some pathos to towards the end it just falls flat.

nah, The Calypso Twins were cool af. Sassy, evil Sirens with a bandit cult and a million simpers. Handsome Jackie would've got rekt.

[Nigerian Prince]

The story is bad. Lilith is a gigantic disappointment. Someone who is supposed to be a heroic vault hunter is totally incompetent at everything. She allows Pandora to be overrun and the Calypsos to get the vault map. I'd love an explanation as to what she was doing prior to the story where everything completely fell apart. Then when the Calypsos fight her they might as well have broken her back and put her in a wheelchair since she basically stands on the bridge the entire game. You have to walk over and press buttons for her that are a few feet away. She is useless throughout the game. Ava is annoying and even Tannis started to become grating. Vaughn and Rhys are the same character but one is a CEO and one refuses to wear pants.