car damage?????????

[dipshit]

what the hell is wrong with vehicle damage scaling? cars stoped making kills after like lvl 50
and when u play at mayhem lvl *any* any low mob can smelt ur car in 5 seconds. are they gonna fix it or is it supposed to be this way?

[YesMan]

supposed to be this way
Gearbox sucked at vehicle gameplay balance for both BL2 & BL3, yet making large maps for driving

[Shinigami]

Adding armor to your vehicles makes them much more resistant to damage. And the special battering ram on the large truck makes it possible to kill enemies easily by ramming into them. Both of these help if Mayhem is activated.

[dipshit]

Originally posted by Shinigami:

Adding armor to your vehicles makes them much more resistant to damage. And the special battering ram on the large truck makes it possible to kill enemies easily by ramming into them. Both of these help if Mayhem is activated.

tried both. car has around 1.5mil hp, but it crashes in no time, especially when you meet another vehicle. the armor mod is also pretty useless, it damages 200-700k (if you hit em, which is low likely when driving that fat ass)

[jjrva]

Another wonderfull gearbox feature add by request from the ♥♥♥♥♥ an moan crowd(wa,wa,waaaa, too much damage, waa,waaa)

[Leopard]

I guess we have to sue Scooter for this?

[Anelyn]

You have to unlock the rocket launcher from first vault card, it doubles your vehicle dmg, it is the only way to get kills against other vehicles on mayhem levels.

Don't waste time trying to kill normal enemies with your vehicle in mayhem levels, you will just waste time, you will kill them much faster with your own character, just jump out if you must fight, kill stuff then go back in (obviously same goes for other vehicles, but at least vs those you will pack a punch with the rocket launcher from the vault card).

The vehicle HP scales with your max HP, same as Iron Bear armor does with Moze. So investing some points in guardian levels in that should help, also there are shields with % max hp, and a specific shield that doubles your HP.

For vehicle weapons just use the normal outrider with the standard missile launcher because it does 50% more dmg on a direct hit (and it can crit + splash dmg) if you really want to kill stuff with a vehicle on mayhem levels.

[dipshit]

Originally posted by Anelyn:

You have to unlock the rocket launcher from first vault card, it doubles your vehicle dmg, it is the only way to get kills against other vehicles on mayhem levels.

Don't waste time trying to kill normal enemies with your vehicle in mayhem levels, you will just waste time, you will kill them much faster with your own character, just jump out if you must fight, kill stuff then go back in (obviously same goes for other vehicles, but at least vs those you will pack a punch with the rocket launcher from the vault card).

The vehicle HP scales with your max HP, same as Iron Bear armor does with Moze. So investing some points in guardian levels in that should help, also there are shields with % max hp, and a specific shield that doubles your HP.

For vehicle weapons just use the normal outrider with the standard missile launcher because it does 50% more dmg on a direct hit (and it can crit + splash dmg) if you really want to kill stuff with a vehicle on mayhem levels.

so i must pay for director's cut to stop this dickery? dope. thx for answer though

[Anelyn]

Not to stop it, but to improve your vehicle damage. It's same thing as it was in BL2, where peeps would equip The Bee to get the amp damage in vehicles in OP levels in order to deal damage.

You do not need the vehicle to deal any damage to complete the game (main quest lines + dlcs, side quests or just strolling around and exploring / farming), you just use it to move from A to B, if you want to engage in combat en route just jump out, clear the hostiles and get back in. Many players don't even use the vehicles anymore, there are relics / weapons that enable you to move faster on feet, and you can always travel to locations you discovered so there's that too.

The difference is so brutal from normal game play while leveling to end game + Mayhem levels because you have TOO MUCH vehicle damage early on, you can kill anything with a vehicle, including badassess, minibosses, anointed enemies etc.

[dipshit]

Originally posted by Anelyn:

Not to stop it, but to improve your vehicle damage. It's same thing as it was in BL2, where peeps would equip The Bee to get the amp damage in vehicles in OP levels in order to deal damage.

You do not need the vehicle to deal any damage to complete the game (main quest lines + dlcs, side quests or just strolling around and exploring / farming), you just use it to move from A to B, if you want to engage in combat en route just jump out, clear the hostiles and get back in. Many players don't even use the vehicles anymore, there are relics / weapons that enable you to move faster on feet, and you can always travel to locations you discovered so there's that too.

The difference is so brutal from normal game play while leveling to end game + Mayhem levels because you have TOO MUCH vehicle damage early on, you can kill anything with a vehicle, including badassess, minibosses, anointed enemies etc.

yeah, i get that vehicles are supposed to be for transporting, but there are missions in BL3, where you HAVE TO use vehicles during combat, which is an absolute pain in the ass when playing the story line in uvh mode

[Anelyn]

Yes, but you just jump out, kill the enemies, then resume your traveling. I know of which missions you speak and they can be done easily this way. Sure it's not ideal, but Gearbox never balanced the vehicles in any of the series titles (bl1/2/TPS/3).

[Diogenes49]

And today's challenge is .............
kill 30 enemies with an outrunner

[Anelyn]

Change mayhem to 0, complete the quest in like 1 min? o_O?

[Diogenes49]

yep but it seems ironic

[Leopard]

Originally posted by Diogenes49:

yep but it seems ironic

How long did it took you to make a kill (Shielded and Amoured Enemy)? :) In Mayham 10/11 of course.

PS: I think there are 2 or more side quest including DLCs that requires you to run down enemies with a vehicle.

[Anelyn]

Originally posted by Leopard:

Originally posted by Diogenes49:

yep but it seems ironic

How long did it took you to make a kill (Shielded and Amoured Enemy)? :) In Mayham 10/11 of course.

PS: I think there are 2 or more side quest including DLCs that requires you to run down enemies with a vehicle.

Yes there are, but again, you can lower mayhem / disable it, or equip the 1st vault card rocket launcher, use AoE weapons to soften up the enemies, then ram them, done it both ways (no mayhem, and M11, including story quests with Maya and Vaughn, as well as the side quest in Guns, tentacles etc dlc for the DJ sounds).

Am not defending GB by any means, just presenting solutions / workarounds the issue with poor vehicle scaling in mayhem levels. You must realize that at this point in the game life cycle it's very unlikely it will ever be fixed, no matter how much we complain about it since it's a minor aspect of the game.

Have fun! <3