Mayhem Problems

[Friar Tuck]

I'm running into the problem where, I need better gear to survive higher mayhem levels, but, I need higher mayhem levels to find better gear. I'm playing as a Deathless Moze, I'm maxed level, but, Mayhem 3 is as high as I can go, at 4 I just get ganked. So, suggestions?

[Holografix]

1. Optimize your build
2. Get those weapon anointments matching with your build skill set
3. re-roll Mayhem modifiers so you have an easier time

Once you move to a higher Mayhem level, focus on small areas to gain Mayhem 4 weapons. It's doable, but it does take time. Take advantage of the Loot the Universe event to gain powerful legendary weapons/shields.

[Lord Of War]

Originally posted by Friar Tuck:

Mayhem 3 is as high as I can go, at 4 I just get ganked. So, suggestions?

Hey-ya, another Moze player here.
Pre-warning, my suggestions might not b suitable for your playing style.

1) Get yourself anointments for "extra 125% fire dmg after leaving IB",
2) invest mostly into green and blue trees - ignore that if you like Deathless tree skill,
3) weapons with high rate & big mags are your best friends (Breath of Dying, Plasma Coil, pretty much all variants of Hellshocks and Radicals pistols), Butcher - actually never run of ammo with it, weird...
4) reroll shield for extra shield and health after leaving IB - that's my main source of healing myself,

That's... it really.
I run M10 easily with either mech or solely with guns. When in the mech, my choice either cryo miniguns or exploding miniguns; if have to shoot flying enemies - homing rockets.

[Spud]

If you have Eridium, you can cheese things a littlebit, by in Santuary set the mayhem to 10 or 11 and use the Gun-gun (Eridium Fabricator) in legendary mode to get some m10 weapons.

[JackBurton]

If you own SP2: set to M10, go to Arms Race and farm Plasma Coil and Tizzy. After you've obtained a Coil reset to a lower M-level w acceptable modifiers and continue w endgame.

[Marshall_maz]

Keep an eye on Maurice Black Market location every week. Some weeks ( like last week ) it is so close to a spawn point that you can get to it fast without needing to fire a single shot and avoid all enemies. Switch to M11 at Sanctuary before going to the black market and buy M10 weapons there. That is what I did , I got myself some M10 weapons that way and I went straight from M0 to M11 and skipped all other mayhem levels that way. It just took a bit of patience for that easy week to come along. I kept running M1 & 2 with lootsplotion modifier and made heaps of money and when the easy location came along I bought the M10 weapons.

Also , use the chest with golden keys at M11 mode. That chest also gives legendary gear now and then. That is another way to get M10 weapons and gear.

Same applies if you have diamond keys. Use them in M11 mode to get M10 gear from the diamond room.

[Pook and Pie]

Moze is the easiest character to jump to higher Mayhems.

Respec your build to suit Iron Bear, grab an Eternal Flame class mod, and use a fire weapon with a high ignite chance. This will mostly let you get Iron Bear back almost immediately. Use the Electric Banjo artifact to chain electricity while in Iron Bear, but even outside of Iron Bear, Banjo can chain and trigger Big Surplus while IB is on cooldown, which can also ignite the enemies, usually leading to only seconds in between Iron Bear uses. I recommend using the railguns with dual capacitive armature.

Nothing else you have really matters, and Iron Bear will let you crush Mayhem 11 without much investment.

If you're restricted to no DLC, then the Bear Trooper com is the best you have for Iron Bear uptime.

But you can use this to start grinding higher Mayhems a little bit at a time. My Iron Bear build basically cleared the entire Krieg DLC with only needing to re-up Iron Bear 5 or 6 times, that thing can last super long if you build right.

Worse come to worse you can add me and I can mail you duplicates of the gear I use in my Bad News Bear Moze (like a fire Dark Army++, which is great for setting things on fire).

[El Chiko Juan]

if you want you can join my game and we can loot some mayham lvl 10, I can do the killing no problem.

[Pook and Pie]

Originally posted by El Chiko Juan:

if you want you can join my game and we can loot some mayham lvl 10, I can do the killing no problem.

This is also another good option. You can have a friend farm for you for a moment by clearing an area then letting you check the loot to pick up Mayhem 10 gear.

I can also help do this if you need.

[Chillin]

Mech,nuke.railgun.. keep playing on M3 till you get legendery gear then go up one notch..rins and repeat.. im max level and i thrash everything at M10 solo.

[Anelyn]

Let me know when you decide on a specific Moze build, and what gear you need for it, and I can send you M10 versions of them so you can jump straight to M10/11 (no Arms Race pieces tho, am not doing that as I don't really enjoy it, and it's all RNG on getting that specific bit you want).

But as previously mentioned, IB with any weapon that has 150% hardpoint anointment with nothing else will smash through M10/11. Sure you won't have the uptime on IB or the tankiness etc of a complete build, but you can target farm (especially with the loot event which is now on Eden 6) without problems.

On Fl4k for example I went on M10 at lvl 56 with a guardian ang3l and rakks, and farmed for a hellwalker, when I got it I could play M10 as 3 shot fadeaway for couple levels, then I farmed a new hellwalker with rakks etc.

[Friar Tuck]

Well, I was using a Deathless, which I was pretty happy with cause I even had a Bloodletter, but, after reading two comments saying IB can do some work, perhaps a change in play style? I found a Transformer, so I went to farm Monarchs - remembered IB existed and Killavolt became a joke (I did only find one Monarch sooooo :/ )

[Diogenes49]

farm katawaga ball for a multitap farm lasodactyl for a light show if that doesn't work use gold keys to get some good purples then go back to farming ps yes the sanctuary chest does drop legendarys on occasion

[Relic62]

Use the Gungun pay eridium and instant legendaries just make sure you are on M10 in sanctuary.

[TwoTonTuna]

Originally posted by Friar Tuck:

I'm running into the problem where, I need better gear to survive higher mayhem levels, but, I need higher mayhem levels to find better gear. I'm playing as a Deathless Moze, I'm maxed level, but, Mayhem 3 is as high as I can go, at 4 I just get ganked. So, suggestions?

I am going through what you're going through right now.

Unfortunately, most of Moze's meta mods/anoints/legendaries are locked behind DLCs. If you have SP1 and SP2, then this is not a problem for you. If you don't, then here's the Mayhem 10 loadout I'm working with:

1) Here's my build:
https://bl3skills.com/gunner#500311055110003530501500510150351103000

I use this to maximize Iron Bear damage and reduce its cooldown. Your mech will do all the damage, your guns are just going to be decorations until you get good anoints.
2) Jump straight into Mayhem 10/11 and use Iron Bear to farm or progress. Look for a weapon anoint that increases the damage of whatever IB weapon you prefer. I personally have +150% minigun damage mods on a purple weapon. My left click is the regular minigun, while the right click is explosive minigun rounds i use to heal up iron bear.
3) Keep an eye out for the legendary "Bear Trooper" class mod. It gives +50% IB fuel and +50% IB duration. There are other better mods out there like Eternal Flame, but they are locked behind DLCs. Artifact is whatever reduces action skill cooldown.

I'm still relying on this build and farming for equipment that will allow me to deal damage while out of my mech. until i find that gear though, iron bear is still my primary source of damage.

[Shinigami]

Banjo's such a pain to farm, only got one in all my time in the game, and I've killed those SOBs like a hundred times...