Keybinds are a mess! Fix this!

[Mumrah]

When I got the game a while back, I didn't know about this issue. Only now am I able to play the game and I found out how terrible the menu keybinds are.

There isn't enough people talking about this issue. Players who want to change their keys cannot do so without breaking something else....

I'm surprised that we are still dealing with this problem in 2019. It has been a long while now and the problem still has not been fixed. I'm not even going to assume they are addressing it at all.

For those who may not know or play exclusively with a gamepad, the keybinds are important to K&M players.

WASD is an old set up and was ok back in late 90s. I find it stupid that "gaming" keyboards color code and label the WASD keys. I find it worse that shooters continue to put WASD as a "standard" setup. Borderlands 3 has done this. Problem here is, changing the keybinds which nearly every player does, is only going to break other things you can do in the game. Even HARD coding keys where they cannot be changed. They should be ashamed of this.

I have since moved to ESDF for movement while shifting other commands in the same manner. Why? Because keyboards have a small little raised part on the letters F and J. You put your pointer fingers there, keeping your hand closer to the center and in a more standard position for typing words. Why gaming shifted your left hand more to the left? No idea. If typing can handle pressing shift and ctrl so can gamers...

It should've been standard for a long time for console devs to develop with PC's in mind, if they ever have to go there. OR if you plan to release your console game to PC, hire a competent team to port your game....

I'm currently trying to get Autohotkey to work with a better scheme but it's very tricky. I prefer NOT to do that at all to do something as basic as changing the keybinds to a game.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Mumrah:

I'm surprised that we are still dealing with this problem in 2019.

Dude, I've got bad news for you. It's 2020 now.

[Dyex]

How about you use different hardware for gaming? No need to program autohotkey.

I use logitech G-13 gameboard and foot pedal for crouching.

Keyboards are made for typing with two hands with home row in the middle, not holding a mouse and one handed. That's why they have shift and control on both sides, since contorting your fingers to use just one hand would be hard.

Better to use an ergonomic keybord.

[Nite69]

I use arrow keys for movement and working fine here, its not locked to WASD

[Mumrah]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Originally posted by Mumrah:

I'm surprised that we are still dealing with this problem in 2019.

Dude, I've got bad news for you. It's 2020 now.

Dude, I've got bad news for you. The game was released 2019. Problem persists into 2020.

Originally posted by Dyex:

How about you use different hardware for gaming? No need to program autohotkey.

I use logitech G-13 gameboard and foot pedal for crouching.

Keyboards are made for typing with two hands with home row in the middle, not holding a mouse and one handed. That's why they have shift and control on both sides, since contorting your fingers to use just one hand would be hard.

Better to use an ergonomic keybord.

You might be ok with buying a product that doesn't work properly only to fix it yourself with more money. Just cause a game doesn't perform how it should, doesn't mean the consumer needs to go out and buy new hardware/software to fix a problem that was not theirs to fix. Games should be able to perform on common standard equipment without all the bells and whistles.

Shifting the hand on the keyboard restricts how many keys you can use by cramping it against the edge. Even if you are using a mouse in one hand and keyboard in the other, why shift the left hand for no real good reason? The only hand shifting is the mouse hand, why do both? It was bad design from the beginning. Not the Keyboard.

[Nite69]

Yes i have to shift hand for some functions, but for most of the gameplay the arrow keys and mouse has what I need, you do know that you can get mouses with more buttons on it these days right?

[Mumrah]

Originally posted by Nite69:

Yes i have to shift hand for some functions, but for most of the gameplay the arrow keys and mouse has what I need, you do know that you can get mouses with more buttons on it these days right?

I already answered this in my last post.

You don't buy a basketball only to find that you have to buy a basketball court to play with it, right?

[Dyex]

Game was made to play how it was layout well, it's your choice to change this ~ it's your problem to solve, just as I did too.

If you want to play soccer with a basketball on a hockey rink, that's your choice...

[Dyex]

Originally posted by Nite69:

I use arrow keys for movement and working fine here, its not locked to WASD

I have to ask I'm curious: how do you jump, duck and run?

Oh and reload

[Nite69]

Originally posted by Dyex:

Originally posted by Nite69:

I use arrow keys for movement and working fine here, its not locked to WASD

I have to ask I'm curious: how do you jump, duck and run?

Oh and reload

Run I use right shift, duck I use Right CTRL, Jump I use Mouse Wheel, Reload I use R key (don't have to reach for it that often because weapons do it automaticly)

[Mumrah]

Originally posted by Dyex:

Game was made to play how it was layout well, it's your choice to change this ~ it's your problem to solve, just as I did too.

If you want to play soccer with a basketball on a hockey rink, that's your choice...

Yes I can choose to do your example. Yet, I'm not required to buy a monster truck to do so.

Well, no. It's not my problem. I paid for a game where I can switch the keys around how I want (within the game) and have it work properly. The game does not allow this without breaking other controls in the process. If a game is released without this feature, they are failing on a basic level. Borderlands 3 a AAA game from a very known company, should be easy for them to program this feature.

[Dyex]

Originally posted by Mumrah:

Let's be real, if you had a monster truck you would be having too much fun crushing cars under your wheels to care about this.

[Mumrah]

Originally posted by Dyex:

Originally posted by Mumrah:

Let's be real, if you had a monster truck you would be having too much fun crushing cars under your wheels to care about this.

Nah, crushing EA and Activison HQ is more productive.

[Dyex]

Originally posted by Nite69:

Originally posted by Dyex:

I have to ask I'm curious: how do you jump, duck and run?

Oh and reload

Run I use right shift, duck I use Right CTRL, Jump I use Mouse Wheel, Reload I use R key (don't have to reach for it that often because weapons do it automaticly)

I have to admit I kinda wish they had an auto run in the options in the game settings. Walking is good by default, but who needs to walk when you can slow down to aim with your gun or crouch walk.

Also when you dash into a slide, you go back to walk speed and needing to release sprint and press it again is a thing.

[Nite69]

I barely use the slide damage though, no need for it with with the way I have my character configured

I barely have a need for my action skill as well.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Mumrah:

The game was released 2019

See how easy it is to word something informatively when you put your mind to it. If only you did that in your original post! But then again, you seem to think every player rebinds keys just because you have a problem with a layout that has been accepted for decades, so I'm not surprised you couldn't even do that.