I feel kinda bad for Killavolt

[minicreature]

Moxxi: "Hey Sugar. I want to aggressively have sex with you constantly."

Ellie: "I saw you lookin' VH... Also, I can't wait to lay a bunch of city boys"

Tannis: "I wanna bang Typhon!"



Killavolt: "Can...can I have sex with someone?"

"SHOOT HIM IN THE ♥♥♥♥. SO DISGUSTING AND TOXIC KILL HIM!"

[ElvisDepressedly]

Killavolt was with the CoV and the audio logs you can find around his zone make it pretty blatant that him and his cronies pretty much wrecked everything for all the people who were living there.

[atléd]

This is so sad. Can we get Killavolt's dance as an emote. Like for real.

[Hemmis]

We have killed many of her exes in the past thought, Mr Shank, Motor Mama, Captain Scarlett, Jimbo Hodunk and ofc Jack, she herself almost killed Jack in TPS, blew up half of Opportunity in BL2. It's pretty on brand for her to hire us to kill an ex for something petty, she doesn't really care about most of them or she hates them.
Killavolt is in it with the cult, stole her business idea and was a bad lover. The first is enough to warrant us murdering him, the others are just Moxxis personal reasons on top.

[Gila]

Originalmente postado por Hemmis:

We have killed many of her exes in the past thought, Mr Shank, Motor Mama, Captain Scarlett, Jimbo Hodunk and ofc Jack, she herself almost killed Jack in TPS, blew up half of Opportunity in BL2. It's pretty on brand for her to hire us to kill an ex for something petty, she doesn't really care about most of them or she hates them.
Killavolt is in it with the cult, stole her business idea and was a bad lover. The first is enough to warrant us murdering him, the others are just Moxxis personal reasons on top.

How about all of that also warranting us to murder Moxxi, that would be so awesome.

[Hemmis]

Originalmente postado por gila:

Originalmente postado por Hemmis:

We have killed many of her exes in the past thought, Mr Shank, Motor Mama, Captain Scarlett, Jimbo Hodunk and ofc Jack, she herself almost killed Jack in TPS, blew up half of Opportunity in BL2. It's pretty on brand for her to hire us to kill an ex for something petty, she doesn't really care about most of them or she hates them.
Killavolt is in it with the cult, stole her business idea and was a bad lover. The first is enough to warrant us murdering him, the others are just Moxxis personal reasons on top.

How about all of that also warranting us to murder Moxxi, that would be so awesome.

Well she's never been a nice person, but there are very few "good" people in the series at all. Tannis betrays you in BL1, Claptrap started a robot revolution, Hammerlock brought threshers to Pandora, Gaige is a murderer, Axton is a war criminal, Krieg is a psycho, Salvador is wanted for every crime ever invented. You could find a pretty solid reason for murdering the entire cast basically.

[Vendon]

Most quests in BL universe are totally brutal and are mostly forcing you to kill a human just because someone does not like how he looks like or something else. That's BL

[Gila]

Originalmente postado por Hemmis:

Originalmente postado por gila:

How about all of that also warranting us to murder Moxxi, that would be so awesome.

Well she's never been a nice person, but there are very few "good" people in the series at all. Tannis betrays you in BL1, Claptrap started a robot revolution, Hammerlock brought threshers to Pandora, Gaige is a murderer, Axton is a war criminal, Krieg is a psycho, Salvador is wanted for every crime ever invented. You could find a pretty solid reason for murdering the entire cast basically.

Yes, that would be awesome as well.

[Junipercat]

Originalmente postado por Hemmis:

Gaige is a murderer,.

I'll disagree on that point. Gaige did not intend or have prior thought to kill her schoolmate. Deathtrap saw a perceived threat and acted. It was an accident, which in our society would at worst come out to something like "involuntary manslaughter".

The big difference is if the intent is there or not.

[76561198041967849]

i'm just gonna say it, i think the handsome jackpot DLC was cut in half and timothy was going to betray us originally, he starts getting into being jack, you can so tell it was coming.

also what a garbage reward that mission had, nothing remarkable at all, i felt like i got ripped off when i looted that boss fight.

[Hemmis]

Originalmente postado por Junipercat:

I'll disagree on that point. Gaige did not intend or have prior thought to kill her schoolmate. Deathtrap saw a perceived threat an acted. It was an accident, which in our society would at worst come out to something like "involuntary manslaughter".

The big difference is if the intent is there or not.

I know, and I agree, it was more to emphaize that there is reason for murdering a lot of the other characters and honing in on whether Moxxi is having us kill Killavolt for some petty reason is kinda bogus in the context of the games. Hell Salvador is wanted for unpaid tabs by Mancubus and we kill the other two wanted for him, I thought for a second we would be sent to kill Sal too.

Mr Holloway would pay a lot to have Gaige killed, intented or not, she still killed his daughter. He says in the echo log that he want to "exact horrible revenge on the rouge killer who murdered my genious daughter" Gaige didn't mean to kill Marcie, but that's still manslaugther and she ran away.

My point was that most of the "good guys" (the members of the crimson raiders) have done a lot of things that we would be sent out to kill them for if they weren't our allies.

[Ficelle]

Yep, most of the good guys, including the VH we are playing, are just mass murderers
All the good guys kill for whatever reason they see fit, or they just send the VH do it
No question asked...

And Killavolt isnt really a saint either
He is under the twins...and he runs a battle royal, which is all about people killing each others for a prize

[Darth Cannabis]

I would say 3 is sort of an exception, in having cleaner vault hunters than usual.

A robot hunter, former archival unit, most likey an isolationist by nature which limits ones potential for wrongdoing onto others.

Amara is a crimefighter turned vault hunter siren.

Moze, is your typical former military, while certainly a killer, she also stuck around to help out the green recruits for 1 more mission. (and the swore like only someone in the military can, after finding out where they were going).

However, then we have Zane, who as the operative and doer of dirty deeds for corporate executives, has likely done enough wrong thru his past, to balance it all back to Vault Hunters being likable scum.

Compared to 2, where we have quite a few hunters (A gunzerking renegade, a psycho, an anarchist, an assassin, a soldier accused of war crimes) with disreputable backgrounds, this crew is fairly neutral. Maya was the more virtuous exception of 2's vault hunters.

[Hemmis]

Originalmente postado por Darth Cannabis:

I would say 3 is sort of an exception, in having cleaner vault hunters than usual.

A robot hunter, former archival unit, most like an isolationist by nature which limits ones potential for wrongdoing onto others.

Amara is a crimefighter turned vault hunter siren.

Moze, is your typical former military, while certainly a killer, she also stuck around to help out the green recruits for 1 more mission. (and the swore like only someone in the military can, after finding out where they were going).

However, then we have Zane, who as the operative and doer of dirty deeds for corporate executives, has likely done enough wrong thru his past, to balance it all back to Vault Hunters being likable scum.

Well the reason Fl4k stops being an archivist is because after becoming sentient they "thirst for murder" so probably the least clean imo. They just want to kill for no reason all of a sudden and then finds a way to do that as a Vault Hunter.
Amara also just leaves for Pandora to fight, she's tired of everyone running away and wants a better opponent, that's not very noble imo.
Moze is probably the cleanest and both Maya and Timothy were pretty "clean" in the previous games. So I think it's farly similar.

[Darth Cannabis]

Well I will give you that on Flak. He does have a bit of a murderous zealotry, that is only partial balanced by the whole "honor of the hunt" and an apparent belief in reincarnation (based on some of his phrases).

(just had to add a thought that dawned on me. It just may be, that Flak could even have a belief that his beasts are reincarnations of some sort. Just a thought, that isn't confirmable as of now.)

So yeah more of a 50/50 split. I may have overstressed the change in ratio on reputable backgrounds.

I still think Zane probably has the least clean background. Being an older operative, with a long history in a career, in which lack of moral compass is all but a requirement, basically means he is someone who has lied, cheated,committed theft, murdered, guilty of arson, smuggling, espionage, treason, and just about anything else an operative would have to do, just as part of the job.

[Vendon]

Even Lilith calls you Killer which I hate so much. I hate it being called like that. The whole game is made to murder people, shoot them in half etc. the whole game is brutally from A to O