How good is Moze in the Endgame?

[Static VoiD]

Im currently playin FL4K and running TVH solo with mayhem 3 active all the time... And it's a walk in the park... I could even increase to mayhem 4, if I'd look for more of a challenge.
I thought about levelin a Moze. But looking at her skill trees and playin for a bit, she doesn't seem to scale very well...
I mean at my current low level (around 10) my kill speed is higher if I DON'T use the iron bear and since the iron bear damage isn't really affected by most of her gear, I don't see it doing too well on hard mode.
Some Moze players who can enlighten me a bit?

[Raiden - In Flames 🎵]

equip homing missiles and the grenade launcher with the modification that shoots out 5 grenades at a time and then build your mech so it recovers fuel on kills and reduce the fuel consumption. this is my setup atm. sure im not at end game but after all the weird combinations i tried with moze it is one of the best ones. people have said its the worst build but i have yet to see it. just dont use nuclear warhead. nor really worth it
and then when you have enough points invest into the bubble shield which is in one of the other trees. this is my build that i am going with. have yet to fail. everything dies. explosions everywhere. also make sure you build around splash damage it's really good!

[Anticitizen 1]

Moze with Deathless and Bloodletter is fantastic, 100% extra damage all of the time.

[Komarimaru]

She doesn't scale well sadly, no. The best anointment require you to hop into bear them jump right out. She can be pure survival, or pure DPS, but unable to do both.

If you want a Iron Bear build, do not do as Snek said, since you want dual of the same weapon in each slot for highest damage dealing with the skill in Blue Tree. And it will be missiles, and it will be missiles without any mods on them+need a godly Raging Bear mod.

She scales the most on splash damage no matter what you build. Can do insane damage while out of Bear when spec'd right. Alas, even though she is my favorite vaul hunter, had to shelve her for Amara, Fl4k and Zane since they not only out DPS her, but have three times the survival in TVHM M4. More so I suspect once Mayhem 2.0 comes out.

The fact she has to rely on Bear, by getting in, using the home debuff missiles, then getting out to do any damage is her massive down fall. The combat doesn't flow as well as the other characters. And building her for pure Bear is a slog and slow sadly vs anything else.

Thematically, she is awesome. Design wise she is flawed.

[Static VoiD]

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

She doesn't scale well sadly, no. The best anointment require you to hop into bear them jump right out. She can be pure survival, or pure DPS, but unable to do both.

If you want a Iron Bear build, do not do as Snek said, since you want dual of the same weapon in each slot for highest damage dealing with the skill in Blue Tree. And it will be missiles, and it will be missiles without any mods on them+need a godly Raging Bear mod.

She scales the most on splash damage no matter what you build. Can do insane damage while out of Bear when spec'd right. Alas, even though she is my favorite vaul hunter, had to shelve her for Amara, Fl4k and Zane since they not only out DPS her, but have three times the survival in TVHM M4. More so I suspect once Mayhem 2.0 comes out.

The fact she has to rely on Bear, by getting in, using the home debuff missiles, then getting out to do any damage is her massive down fall. The combat doesn't flow as well as the other characters. And building her for pure Bear is a slog and slow sadly vs anything else.

Thematically, she is awesome. Design wise she is flawed.

Thank you! Very helpful answer. I'll try Zane instead then.

[Static VoiD]

Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Moze with Deathless and Bloodletter is fantastic, 100% extra damage all of the time.

My current FL4K build deals constantly around more than +300% damage all the time... Some of that in elements of my choice, while also offering a lot of crits, speed, healing and action skill damage.
So in my book only 100% extra damage is pretty weak... :(

[shiny_dirk]

i wanted to respond earlier already, but hadn't got the time at that moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn2QKN90aYQ this is a video relese for a moze build from yesterday. have a look if you want, that's what i'm currently building me on my moze, and it looks fun and effective enough to me.

cheers.

[Static VoiD]

Originally posted by shiny_dirk:

i wanted to respond earlier already, but hadn't got the time at that moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn2QKN90aYQ this is a video relese for a moze build from yesterday. have a look if you want, that's what i'm currently building me on my moze, and it looks fun and effective enough to me.

cheers.

Not bad!