Fleens! Puzzle on Very, Very Hard

[hcharlton]

I can't figure out the logic of the Fleens! puzzle on the hardest difficulty.
I understand how the game works, and that on the harder difficulties Fleen Eyes may correlate to Zoombini feet, and Fleen noses to Zoombini hair, for example.
However, the logic seems even more complex this time!
Zoombinis that have all but one feature matching (e.g., same except for nose) will sometimes attract Fleens with either no differences, or will attract fleens with more than one feature different.
I'm not sure if on "Very, Very Hard" one Fleen feature is completely randomized, or if there is some more complex logic going on.

Examples:
http://imgur.com/a/yVXE6

Any thoughts?

[VolnuttHeroP64]

I made this Walkthrough Guide that should help you with Zoombinis HD
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=543641267

[hcharlton]

Originally posted by Jr786 Neil Watts/Eva Rosalene:

I made this Walkthrough Guide that should help you with Zoombinis HD
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=543641267

I appreciate it!

However, the Very, Very Hard level on Fleens! seems to be following different rules in this version of Zoombinis.

[VolnuttHeroP64]

Originally posted by hcharlton:

Originally posted by Jr786 Neil Watts/Eva Rosalene:

I made this Walkthrough Guide that should help you with Zoombinis HD
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=543641267

I appreciate it!

However, the Very, Very Hard level on Fleens! seems to be following different rules in this version of Zoombinis.

And what may that be?

[hcharlton]

Originally posted by Jr786 Neil Watts/Eva Rosalene:

Originally posted by hcharlton:

I appreciate it!

However, the Very, Very Hard level on Fleens! seems to be following different rules in this version of Zoombinis.

And what may that be?

Up until Very Hard, the rules are the same as in your guide.

On "Not So Easy" and "Oh So Hard", it behaves the same way as before. If two Zoombinis have different hair, the corresponding Fleens will have different hair as well. If two Zoombinis have the same noses, their Fleens will also have matching noses.

On "Very Hard" features don't correspond directly. If two Zoombinis match all but their nose color, their Fleens should also be matching except for one feature (however this time it may be hair, eyes, nose, or feet.) This matches your guide, and the classic version of Zoombinis.

"Very Very Hard" is no longer exactly the same in this release. These two examples: http://imgur.com/a/yVXE6 do not follow the same rules as "Very Hard". In both examples the Zoombinis differ in one feature, but the Fleens differ in either two or zero features.

If you play a few rounds of "Very Hard" and "Very Very Hard" on practice mode, the difference should become quite clear.

[ceegersmello]

I have yet to actually test that difficulty out myself on this new version, but a suggestion based on the screenshots would be maybe one trait is ignored. Thus, if the one difference is the ignored trait, the fleens could be identical, and if a similarity is ignored, the fleens could have two differences.
I'll have to try it myself next week...

[Faye Scarlet]

Is it changed from the original Zoombini game, I wonder? Because I found myself compeltely stumped as well when practicing Fleens on the hardest setting for a brain warm up.

[ceegersmello]

Having played it myself now, I believe I have confirmed my guess of one fleen trait does not match any zoombini trait. Having three traits to work with is still enough to get it within 6 zoombinis.
Oh, and definitely changed from the original. I am quite familiar with the original...

[VolnuttHeroP64]

Originally posted by ceegersmello:

Having played it myself now, I believe I have confirmed my guess of one fleen trait does not match any zoombini trait. Having three traits to work with is still enough to get it within 6 zoombinis.
Oh, and definitely changed from the original. I am quite familiar with the original...

It could be following the Harder Levels:
Ex. Feet to Nose, Nose to Feet & so on.

[ceegersmello]

It does that, because it IS the hardest level, but even so, one doesn't match.

[Snazzberry]

After playing quite a few games on very, very hard (android), I'd like to corroborate some of the suggestions in this thread. As far as I can tell, there is one type of zoombini trait which does not correspond to fleen traits. Thus one type of fleen trait is randomized has no bearing on the matching of zoombinis and fleens. If anyone discovers otherwise, do share!

[FiddleStickX]

I would test a batch of very similar zoombinis against the very very hard fleens.
This may show a break in the pattern (same hair for all Zs, same shoes) letting you figure out where the other two traits differ.