PS4 needs a control patch

[CeliriaRose]

I couldn't post this on the official forums so I'm posting this here.

On PS4 the game DESPERATELY needs a patch for the controls. Boosting requires you to hold down the thumbstick constantly rather than being a toggle. Rolling requires you to both press and turn the thumstick simultaneously. Who in their right mind came up with these controls? This game was one of my most anticipated games since I heard it was coming to PS4 but now it's currently sitting as one of my biggest dissapointments because the game is flat out uncomfortable for me to try and play.

Please for the love of god patch the controls on PS4.

[rockfish_andi]

Hi there, there are no plans for a controls patch on PS4. These are the same controls that XboxOne and PC players have been enjoying for more than a year and while there have been a few remarks regarding boost with thumbstick there weren't too many complaints but rather praise for the easy to pick-up arcade controls. I'm sure you'll get used to it quickly, please note the following
- Everspace is not a sim, but an arcade game, and intentinally plays more like a first person shooter than a space sim
- Rolling is not important in this game at all - the buttons on the controller are limited, and rolling is the action probably least required
- Strafing and Hovering on the other hand are incredibly important in this game. You'll need to circle-strafe a lot to evade enemy fire
- While I agree that pressing the thumbstick in order to boost while travelling greater distances can be tedious, a toggle for boost is not really an option. During dogfights you'll want to quickly use your boost for a very short amount of time every now and then in order to evade missiles and enemy fire or get behind an enemy. A toggle would be very confusing in this scenario.

[Mr Furious]

just wanted to say Ps4 has a button setup outside of game for last 3 years. Which means you can remap your buttons however you see fit.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZcc2bO5Zw8

[Klaini]

i definitly think also , it needs a patch. i have the game on pc and on ps4. and the handling for shooting is terrible on the ps4. on pc it is smooth with mouse and co, on ps4 for me it took every motion in steps and thats bad for targeting.

[Arsene Lupin]

LMFAO at PC players "enjoying" the controls. The game handles well with a mouse, which may account for a lack of complaints, but is complete ass on a gamepad. Everspace is in desperate need of some patching--gamepad controls, yes,and also--more importantly--UI. It's like these people have never even heard of readability.

[Giraffasaur]

Originally posted by Arsene-Lupin:

The game handles well with a mouse, which may account for a lack of complaints, but is complete ass on a gamepad.

I absolutely prefer keyboard/mouse controls for Everspace, but I've grown accustomed to both the XBox and PS4 controllers as of late. That said, I'm eager to see if there are better solutions to the current controller configuration, but I'm not sure I have a suggestion as to how to optimize it further myself.

If you could remap the controls to your liking, what would you change the boost to? And where would you put the previous function that the boost would replace?

[Arsene Lupin]

TBH I'd just mirror Ace Combat's control scheemes. Everspace isn't really a flight combat game, so not everything would have an ideal analog, but I still think it would be the ideal solution.

I've been messing around trying to get a workable gamepad configuration going on PC, but haven't had much success finding an optimal arrangement yet. The game also has a hard time mapping axes correctly, which makes fiddling with the analog stick bindings kind of a pain. And, really, it seems to me that the horrific readability problems in the UI are less of an issue w/ mouse control, so I've got considerably less incentive to find that golden gamepad configuration.

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The Ace Combat controls would result in something like the following bindings, just in case you're not familiar (using PS button names):

Start: system menu
Select: in-game menu (customization, inventory, etc.)
R1: yaw right
R2: move forward
L1: yaw left
L2: move backward
Circle: fire secondary weapon
Cross: fire primary weapon
Square: change primary weapon
Triangle: target enemy
Left stick X-axis: roll left/right
Left stick Y-axis: move up/down
L3: boost/afterburner
Right stick: camera movement
R3: change view

Would need to have the "crosshairs centered" option ticked to disable the mouse-movement mechanics, which would furhter necessitate many adjustments to control sensitivity because the game wasn't designed to play w/ the crosshairs centered; would also probably require a patch/mod to improve UI readability, as a centered crosshair is going to be harder to spot than one in motion.

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I should probably try and get my joystick out of my closet, see if it's still working. Possibly Everspace plays better with a joystick than gamepad or mouse? Probably not, but worth a shot.

[Captain Sloth]

Originally posted by CeliriaRose:

I couldn't post this on the official forums so I'm posting this here.

On PS4 the game DESPERATELY needs a patch for the controls. Boosting requires you to hold down the thumbstick constantly rather than being a toggle. Rolling requires you to both press and turn the thumstick simultaneously. Who in their right mind came up with these controls? This game was one of my most anticipated games since I heard it was coming to PS4 but now it's currently sitting as one of my biggest dissapointments because the game is flat out uncomfortable for me to try and play.

Please for the love of god patch the controls on PS4.

Switch L3 with L2 you will find peace with this layout.

[Plastik20xx]

Boosting with the thumbstick without a toggle function is retarded. Other than that I don't mind the PS4 controls. I do love how the game crashes and corrupts your save file when you toggle the 4K/FullHD modes as well, I lost my save twice to this.

[baci]

Originally posted by Lucky_Strikez:

Boosting with the thumbstick without a toggle function is retarded. Other than that I don't mind the PS4 controls. I do love how the game crashes and corrupts your save file when you toggle the 4K/FullHD modes as well, I lost my save twice to this.

Thanks for posting this and sorry for this experience. Do you mean it crashed immediately, or only after a while?

[Plastik20xx]

Sorry, I didn't notice the reply,

It happens when you toggle the resolution back and forth. I was playing with it to try and decide whether 4K was noticable or not and it crashes.. No big deal, then I load the game again and the save file was corrupted. I tried the same thing again after deleting the save and it happened twice, so confirmed. If you toggle it too fast it will crash the game.

[baci]

Originally posted by Lucky_Strikez:

Sorry, I didn't notice the reply,

It happens when you toggle the resolution back and forth. I was playing with it to try and decide whether 4K was noticable or not and it crashes.. No big deal, then I load the game again and the save file was corrupted. I tried the same thing again after deleting the save and it happened twice, so confirmed. If you toggle it too fast it will crash the game.

Thanks for reporting this! We'll have a look into it.

[Plastik20xx]

That was quick, thanks for fixing it so fast. What was causing the problem?

[baci]

Originally posted by Lucky_Strikez:

That was quick, thanks for fixing it so fast. What was causing the problem?

There was a problem with savegames being written at the wrong time. This is an emergency hotfix, we'll probably submit another patch the next days that should fix some crashes, but it should be more reliable now and savegames shouldn't get corrupted anymore.

[reaperofthelost]

Originally posted by rockfish_andi:

Hi there, there are no plans for a controls patch on PS4. These are the same controls that XboxOne and PC players have been enjoying for more than a year and while there have been a few remarks regarding boost with thumbstick there weren't too many complaints but rather praise for the easy to pick-up arcade controls. I'm sure you'll get used to it quickly, please note the following
- Everspace is not a sim, but an arcade game, and intentinally plays more like a first person shooter than a space sim
- Rolling is not important in this game at all - the buttons on the controller are limited, and rolling is the action probably least required
- Strafing and Hovering on the other hand are incredibly important in this game. You'll need to circle-strafe a lot to evade enemy fire
- While I agree that pressing the thumbstick in order to boost while travelling greater distances can be tedious, a toggle for boost is not really an option. During dogfights you'll want to quickly use your boost for a very short amount of time every now and then in order to evade missiles and enemy fire or get behind an enemy. A toggle would be very confusing in this scenario.

Not being able to remap boost on PS4 is a critical issue. Holding L3 down for extended times causes significant discomfort. There's pretty significant usability testing across multiple games to support this. The controls are great on PC (yes I own both versions because I love this game and want to play it wherever I am) because you can remap boost to L2 or some other button. I agree a toggle has conflicts during dog fighting but having the option to set it to toggle would be preferable in the absence of a remapping. Most games that have sprint on L3/R3 use a toggle. Its not too difficult to toggle on and off quickly if you need a short boost. I've had to stop playing it on PS4 because of this one control issue and I have heard similar feedback from other players.

[Plastik20xx]

Same here buddy, I have both versions and I hate using the boost on PS4, I don't have the thumb dexterity.