Why is the combat in this game so bad?

[Pretentieux]

Or why am I so bad at the combat? Is there actually something I can do to improve besides upping my perks little by little to get the upper hand? Dodging seems to be randomly effective at best. I understood the way this game controlled like the old Descent or other 6DOF games of the past, but those games let me take cover and so played much more like a traditional FPS. This is basically the traditional FPS equivalent of standing in an open field and fighting against multiple adversaries 90% of the time.

[Suzaku]

Enemies have near-perfect accuracy, but there's two weaknesses to this: 1) most of their shots have travel time, and 2) they're almost always half a second behind the player.

Think of it like how you have the aim assist telling you where to shoot. Ever try to hit an enemy that is constantly boosting and flying erratically? That aim assist doesn't help when they're moving all over the place. It works the same when you maneuver similarly against them.

Learn to Box Dodge. Strafe in a circle (left, down, right, up, or vice-versa). This makes it so that their shots are always just where you were a moment ago, and the constant change in direction makes it difficult for them to lead you.

Mastering that dodge allows you to easily avoid 95% of enemy attacks while nearly staying still. You can literally kill a corvette by just floating 600m away and box dodging, and never get hit.

Also, check this thread out for more tips, and watch Giraffasaur's video in it as well: http://steamcommunity.com/app/396750/discussions/0/1485487749770774921/

[Dragon Crisis Core]

At first it took me a moment to get used to it then i realized i needed to turn down my input i was spining my ship around like i was on ice, most issues i had was turning way to fast. 3rd run in i was in sector 3 nearly made sector four but ran out of fuel.

[ZDuB]

Here is a link on how to find the answer to your question http://bfy.tw/FiwK

[Suzaku]

Google can't answer questions that are wrong. Everspace's combat would have to actually be bad in order for it to tell him why. Since the combat is excellent, Google can't give a proper answer.

[Pretentieux]

Originally posted by ZDuB:

Here is a link on how to find the answer to your question http://bfy.tw/FiwK

I'm not clicking that.

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Google can't answer questions that are wrong. Everspace's combat would have to actually be bad in order for it to tell him why. Since the combat is excellent, Google can't give a proper answer.

Thanks for the tips. I was sort of trying what you mentioned just instinctively from playing traditional FPS games. I guess I just need to find that sweet spot with practice. Thanks.

[Demodulated]

I try to fly in a circle or corkscrew pattern to dodge enemy fire.

[Pretentieux]

This circular/boxy movement actually works wonders! I figured out I was stupidly using W-A-S-D in order to dodge before but for some reason didn't realize I was just moving forward and backward/side to side. I switched my boost/move down keys to make it easier to use shift & spacebar along with A & D in order to do the circular motions. It's a muscle memory I'm going to have to form as I'm not used to that kind of key rotation but just knowing there's actually an effective way to dodge makes this game so much more approachable. This should honestly be stickied or put into one of the many newb-guides on the steam community.

[Suzaku]

Glad to hear you're making progress. Combine that dodging motion while backing up while using effective long-range weapons, or use it while boosting towards an enemy for some aggressive positioning. Being aggressive works especially well against the Okkar since they can't strafe like the player or Outlaws can.

That dodging can also be used while boosting away so you can warp out even while under fire from a dozen enemies.

[Eric Cartman]

At first I was quite frustrated by the combat in this game aswell. Often times I wouldn't even get out of the first sector lol. It almost made me give up. Luckily I didn't, cause now I reached a point (2nd ship, the fast one + upgrades) where I just blast through almost anything coming at me. I just now set a new record by reaching Sector 4. The game is really addicting IMO.

[Pretentieux]

Yes Cartman I agree so much now that I know what I'm doing. This game is so much fun after finding that dodging is actually possible. It's like I'm always one mistake away from getting hit which keeps me from falling asleep but still allows me to get through fights unscathed.

[Pretentieux]

Wow it feels so amazing to make it all the way to Sector 3 without taking a single hit to my actual hull. This game is so rewarding and entertaining now!

[ZDuB]

Originally posted by Pretentieux:

Originally posted by ZDuB:

Here is a link on how to find the answer to your question http://bfy.tw/FiwK

I'm not clicking that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK2fNG26xFg

[Suzaku]

Once you get really good at dodging, you should try out the Daredevil subroutine once you've found it. Your shield is permanently turned off, but your weapons don't use energy and deal 25% more damage. It's extremely fun, and you'd be surprised just how much more energy you have to work with when your weapons aren't using it.

[jakimetz]

Do a barrel roll.

[Dragon Crisis Core]

Originally posted by ZDuB:

Originally posted by Pretentieux:

I'm not clicking that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK2fNG26xFg

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