Ok...how does the wisp work?

[Vashra]

I put on the amulet. I told it to find me anything it could. I haven't found the guy who will explain to me how to train it yet. It just...stands there. It doesn't find anything. Then one time it starting going bazoo outside the Eastern Gate and it wandered over to a spot and made a tinkling noise...and I searched and searched where it stopped and never found what it apparently wanted me to notice?!?

[lionhart]

It doesn't. Don't bother trying to use it, and don't ever, ever waste any learning points on training it. The wisp is completely useless and it almost seems like the developers were trolling the players with it.

[Oneeyed]

??? The wisp works for me perfectly.

At first it can only find weapons. If there is nothing nearby it wont do anything because nothing is nearby. But it will follow you and wander to something it can find.

If you put learning point into it then it can find other things too.

Only in the case that a weapon falls below the texture of a rock then it alerts you to that position but since the item is below that rock you cannot grab it. Thats all.

Is it a waste putting learning points into it? Well that depends. I wanted to find every single thing in the game world and put learning point into it and maxed the wisp out and well it showed me items I never have found without it. These items are not important but for me doing this once was a cool thing. If you are a minmaxer then these points are wasted of course.

[lionhart]

Originally posted by Oneeyed:

Is it a waste putting learning points into it? Well that depends. I wanted to find every single thing in the game world and put learning point into it and maxed the wisp out and well it showed me items I never have found without it. These items are not important but for me doing this once was a cool thing. If you are a minmaxer then these points are wasted of course.

Obviously what I said was an exaggeration to make the point. The wisp does work, but I just don't think it is worth it in most cases.

If you wait until later in the game when you have a few LPs to spare, then training the wisp might be worth it if you want to find every last hidden item in the game. By that time, any extra items you might find with the wisp aren't going to make much of a difference anyway.

However, many new players fall into the trap of training it early and neglecting their combat skills. It would be a mistake to waste precious LPs on the amulet before you have adequately trained at least one combat skill.

[Vashra]

Ok...at least I know I'm not doing it wrong lol.

I think maybe the script for it going to "anything it can find" is limited to its training because so far it's rolled right past gold coins, a ring, some potions, rare plants, scrolls...but it *has* found weapons. So it seems it's only finding what it's already trained to find.

In other words, I think when you first get it, the thing only knows how to find is weapons. So if you tell it to find weapons or tell it to find "anything" it still just finds weapons. But if I train it to find plants next, then I suspect if I tell it to find me "anything," it will alert on weapons or plants (whichever it finds first), but still fly right past any other treasure.

I agree that it's cute in principle, but it would really only help early/new players who don't know where everything is...and those lower level players can't really afford to spend LP casually early on. I might cheat myself some points through the console to train it for kicks.

[Oneeyed]

The wisp is in the game so you can easily find the bandits swords which are placed like a trail for the player to find the bandits which hold Eldritch. And these 16 swords are not easy to spot without you knowing they are there. The wisp will just find them all easily and you get led to these Bandits.

Originally posted by Vashra:

Ok...at least I know I'm not doing it wrong lol.

I think maybe the script for it going to "anything it can find" is limited to its training because so far it's rolled right past gold coins, a ring, some potions, rare plants, scrolls...but it *has* found weapons. So it seems it's only finding what it's already trained to find.

In other words, I think when you first get it, the thing only knows how to find is weapons. So if you tell it to find weapons or tell it to find "anything" it still just finds weapons. But if I train it to find plants next, then I suspect if I tell it to find me "anything," it will alert on weapons or plants (whichever it finds first), but still fly right past any other treasure.

I agree that it's cute in principle, but it would really only help early/new players who don't know where everything is...and those lower level players can't really afford to spend LP casually early on. I might cheat myself some points through the console to train it for kicks.

[lionhart]

One of the NPCs (I can't remember which one) tells you exactly where to find Eldritch.

When I said "adequately trained" before, I meant at least to the point where you can kill lurkers and snappers without too much trouble. Otherwise it will be very difficult to get through chapter two.