Can't Advance Eye of Innos Quest - Possible Spoilers

[Kronovan]

I'm past the point in the quest where your retrieve the broken Eye of Innos from the Seekers. I 1st took the eye to Pyrokar at the monastery, who told me to take it to Vatras in Khorinis. Which I did. The problem though, is Vatras never gave me any of the dialog about the necessary repair ritual involving himself, a fire mage (Pyrokar) and a black mage (Xardas.) The only dialog he gave me is that he'll need to be involved and will need another Water Mage to relieve him - that's it! I then went and talked to Xardas who's dialog was similar to Pyrokar's - go visit Vatras.

Vatras also never gave me any dialog about who and how to repair the Eye. I just assumed it'd require the skill of a smith so after my meeting with Vatras I went to the local Khorinis smith Hathor. He recommended Bennett at Onar's farm as someone who'd have the necessary skill. I'd rescued Bennett from the Valley of Mines earlier, so being on good terms he fixed it without wanting payment. Now whenever I try to dialog with Vartras though, the only 2 options are 'More' and "END' and when I choose more I just get his 4 standard dialog options. WTF?

Currently I'm a level 21 Fire Magician who's also a full member of the Ring of Water. I've successfully helped the Water Mages open the portal to Jenktar and have quested enough in the new lands of the NotR content to have acquired the Bandit armor. In the process I was involuntarily enlisted in the ranks of the pirates, so I guess I have an affiliation with that faction too - hope that isn't messing up my advancing.

I've read that you have to complete the Jehktar-NotR main quest in order for one of the Water Mages to be willing to relieve Vatras. That fits with what I'm experiencing, because I've spoken to each water mage and can't get a dialog about Vatras from any - even Saturnas.

This quest just feels broken with it seeming like there's no way for me to conclude the Eye of Innos and advance to chapter 4. And of course without advancing to chap 4, I can't get the 4th Circle of spells.
If I'm missing something though, I'd appreciate it if anyone could point it out.

[Edit] Forgot to mention that I've also defeated the Seekers at Sekob's farm, so completed that quest. The problem though, is that since Vatras won't give me the necessary dialog choices, Xardas won't either. Which means I have no way to get the key to Sekob's locked chest from Xardas. I was able to pick the other chest, but that's not the one with the book in it. <sigh> what a mess!

[Oneeyed]

You can only advance after you have killed Raven. So you have to go to Jharkendar and kill Raven.

It was made that way so people who bought the addon Night of the Raven play it before advancing into the main quest line of vanilla Gothic 2. You only know both products at the same time but you play a vanilla game and an addon at the same time.

[Kronovan]

OK cool and thanks for replying. The though had crossed my mind that I might have been thinking chapter 3 should unfold how it did in G2 before NotR. I played the original G2 without NotR years ago, so no doubt that was the reason for my thinking.

I'm now at the bandit HQ on Jharkendar (I was errantly calling it Jenktar above) and are on the attempted assassination of Esteban quest. Dealing with the bandits and Raven seems dangerous and overwhelming. I have fire mage armor + belt, ring of water armor and pirate armor with belt, but it seems that were I to try and slip either on during a fight that I'd bring the whole camp down on me. So, am I going to need to buy the better bandit armor to survive?

[Cortes]

You are not supposed to fight against the entire camp at this point. Do the quests.
Also, having an Ice Block or two would not be bad.

[Oneeyed]

Originally posted by Kronovan:

OK cool and thanks for replying. The though had crossed my mind that I might have been thinking chapter 3 should unfold how it did in G2 before NotR. I played the original G2 without NotR years ago, so no doubt that was the reason for my thinking.

I'm now at the bandit HQ on Jharkendar (I was errantly calling it Jenktar above) and are on the attempted assassination of Esteban quest. Dealing with the bandits and Raven seems dangerous and overwhelming. I have fire mage armor + belt, ring of water armor and pirate armor with belt, but it seems that were I to try and slip either on during a fight that I'd bring the whole camp down on me. So, am I going to need to buy the better bandit armor to survive?

You only get attacked if you fight them unprovoked. Esteban can be provoked so you only fight him and no one else.

Like Cortes said in his post above: Do the quests in the bandit camp and you get to Raven and only have to fight a very few guys.

[Kronovan]

OK then - thanks for the replies. I'll just keep on questing and hold off on buying the better Bandit armor.

I just want to add...WOW does NotR ever make chapter 3 a long one!
I guess that's unavoidable in a RPG for which progression is in chapters that are tied to milestones. I think I've become too accustomed to the DLC in newer RPGs, where it typically adds a new quest/story branch that's self-contained. I don't know which approach I prefer better. I just know I detest the way it was handled in Dragon Age Origins, where you'd come upon locations that said 'Stop & proceed no further until you've purchased the DLC' - very annoying. I just stopped playing and traded away my DAO for that reason, and waited to buy it again once they had a GOTY version available.

[Cortes]

Well, chapter 3 is actually rather short, all in all.
Could even be the shortest one.

[Kronovan]

Originally posted by Cortes:

Well, chapter 3 is actually rather short, all in all.
Could even be the shortest one.

Really? It's seems lengthy to me. Part of my perspective is probably because I misread the danger in retrieving the eye. I worked through a number of side quests before attempting it. My bigger misread though was of the Seekers; didn't realize they'd go down quite easily with a charged wind fist spell. As well, I like to explore far afield in Gothic games and figure out ways to bring down the most lethal beasts. I'm playing a Fire Mage, but someone could easily mistaken me as some arcane Hunter. :)

[Cortes]

Yeah, I was thinking about main-quest only.

Then again, I am used to doing expansion first and visiting the valley second, so these around 10 levels you can get that way are helping a lot.

As for arcane hunter, there is magic bow somewhere in the expansion world.

[Kronovan]

Originally posted by Cortes:

...As for arcane hunter, there is magic bow somewhere in the expansion world.

Oh wow, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for mentioning it.