Lares fire magicians help disappeared

[Arier]

[ENG[
Lares dialogue to help me join one of the guilds disappeared. I figured out that this happened because i spoke with Lee about Water Circle. I don't want to load save because save in which i hasn't spoke to Lee is from 4 hours ago. I tried to messing with dialogues with save editor but to no success. Does enyone know solution to this bug?
[PL]
Po rozmowie z Lee o wodnym kręgu zniknęła mi prośba o pomoc w dostaniu się do gildii u laresa. Probowalem edytowac savey z save editorem ale do niczego nie doszedlem. Zna ktoś sposob w jaki mozna przywrocic ten dialog inny niz wczytanie sejwa z przed 4 godzin?

[[AK] GaroK]

Jakiego edytora sejwów używałeś?
Niektóre edytory nie działają w większości przypadków.

[kris.aalst]

I'm not absolutely sure you need Lares to tell you about the quick way to join a faction but it seems logical so you probably do. Still, try talking to the NPC anyway (I think the fire mage in Khorinis; if not it's the one on the road to the Monastery) to see if he has the dialogue option anyway.

"Messing with dialogues with save editor" is always a bad idea. If you know the one thing to fix, you're free to try but 'messing around' usually messes up things more than it fixes.

Lastly, ... come on! Don't be that guy! Okay, seriously: you don't want to take the shortcut to join a faction. It was implemented to offset the increased difficulty of the Night of the Raven addin, but #1 you don't need it, you can still join the factions the good old way; #2 doing all the pre-joining quests for all the factions before actually committing to one faction is a lot of fun and a lot of XP!

[Arier]

Originally posted by GaroK:

Jakiego edytora sejwów używałeś?
Niektóre edytory nie działają w większości przypadków.

GVE

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

I'm not absolutely sure you need Lares to tell you about the quick way to join a faction but it seems logical so you probably do. Still, try talking to the NPC anyway (I think the fire mage in Khorinis; if not it's the one on the road to the Monastery) to see if he has the dialogue option anyway.

"Messing with dialogues with save editor" is always a bad idea. If you know the one thing to fix, you're free to try but 'messing around' usually messes up things more than it fixes.

Lastly, ... come on! Don't be that guy! :bigGrin: Okay, seriously: you don't want to take the shortcut to join a faction. It was implemented to offset the increased difficulty of the Night of the Raven addin, but #1 you don't need it, you can still join the factions the good old way; #2 doing all the pre-joining quests for all the factions before actually committing to one faction is a lot of fun and a lot of XP!

1. Nah, Isgaroth only sells potions and stuff and can bless you for thorben quest for free
2. I backed up my saves so messing around was rather fun and safe
3. I know man but when i get the option i want to milk it as much as i can, especialy that i want 2h mage so i already invested 30 in str and 30 in 2h weapon so having gold to buy staff with +mana as soon as i get to monastery is part of my plan ;/
Edit: im doing all preliminary quests to every guild. That's the reason im in my current position as i didn't want to speak with Lares about joining factions before i get all quests done

[Arier]

i started new game and cheated my way around NPCs to trigger dialogues and i can confirm that speaking with Lee about Water circle removes dialogue from Lares. Now, it's just strange that in save editor there is no values change in any of Lares/Lee/Vatras/Daron options after said talk with Lee. There must be some other variable that gets changed but i dunno which one.

Zacząłem nową grę i polatałem między NPCami. Po rozmowie wygląda na to, że po rozmowie o wodnym kręgu żadna wartość przy linijkach związanych z Laresem/Lee/Vatrasem/Daeonem nie ulega zmianie. Dziwne, tak jakby w innym miejscu występował glitch ale nie wiem w którym.

[[AK] GaroK]

Originally posted by Blue_Rust:

i started new game and cheated my way around NPCs to trigger dialogues and i can confirm that speaking with Lee about Water circle removes dialogue from Lares. Now, it's just strange that in save editor there is no values change in any of Lares/Lee/Vatras/Daron options after said talk with Lee. There must be some other variable that gets changed but i dunno which one.

Zacząłem nową grę i polatałem między NPCami. Po rozmowie wygląda na to, że po rozmowie o wodnym kręgu żadna wartość przy linijkach związanych z Laresem/Lee/Vatrasem/Daeonem nie ulega zmianie. Dziwne, tak jakby w innym miejscu występował glitch ale nie wiem w którym.

Mogę cie zapewnić, że GVE nie działa w 95% przypadków.
Miałem podobny problem ostatnio, grając w mroczne tajemnice nie miałem opcji wyzwania Kharima i Kirgo na pojedynek, próbowałem GVE i jeszcze tam jakiegoś innego edytora. Nie działało. Dopiero gdy zainstalowałem marvin helpera to wtedy wszystko udało się naprawić.
Marvin helper to plugin (minimod) do Uniona (systempacka 2.0), więc jeśli chciałbyś go wypróbować, to musiałbyś zrobić backup sejwów i zainstalować grę od nowa.

[Arier]

Ok, dzieki GaroK, wyprobuje Marvin Helpera. Nie bylem świadom istnienia ani marvin helpera popatrzę sobie w tym programie.
Jesli cos sie uda to dam znac tutaj.

[Yeltas]

If someone is still looking for solution to this, there are two varaibles that are changed after speaking to Lee about Ring of Water. Change both values to 0 in GVE to revert this diaologue.

SC_KNOWSCORDASRANGERFROMLEE = 0
RANGERHELP_GILDESLD = 0

[Arier]

Thanks man, i restarted from previous save but this will surely help in the future when i will forget about this bug(?) Ty

[miralight]

isnt there a cheat that helps you with faction character helper