New player here, does ranking down means....

[SaltyOneOne]

I'll get to level up easier again and get those research points to upgrade weapons?

Assuming I hit max level that unlocks all the stuff, is it beneficial to rank down for the research points during level up?

[Lein]

Yes, dropping your rank will let you get more level ups (per the same amount of XP), which will give you more research points. You do not lose research points from dropping ranks.

The answer to the second part is basically no. The last level you unlock something is rank 30 (except for the admiral outfit at rank 50). Dropping ranks once you're at 30 is not going to help you much unless you drop back all the way down to the first few ranks, which isn't even going to be worth it (you're likely to have everything unlocked and upgraded by then or at least nearly). After rank 26, all the level ups require about the same amount of XP (with only slight increases each time).

Keep in mind, any rank you drop below, you will lose any reward aquired with that rank (if you drop below rank 18, you will lose the Justice since it unlocks at rank 18 -- if you bought upgrades for it, you will get those back once you reach rank 18 again)

For ranks and their required XP, you can visit the Helldivers wiki[helldivers.gamepedia.com].

[Xeonzs]

Originally posted by Lein:

Yes, dropping your rank will let you get more level ups (per the same amount of XP), which will give you more research points. You do not lose research points from dropping ranks.

The answer to the second part is basically no. The last level you unlock something is rank 30 (except for the admiral outfit at rank 50). Dropping ranks once you're at 30 is not going to help you much unless you drop back all the way down to the first few ranks, which isn't even going to be worth it (you're likely to have everything unlocked and upgraded by then or at least nearly). After rank 26, all the level ups require about the same amount of XP (with only slight increases each time).

Keep in mind, any rank you drop below, you will lose any reward aquired with that rank (if you drop below rank 18, you will lose the Justice since it unlocks at rank 18 -- if you bought upgrades for it, you will get those back once you reach rank 18 again)

So what would be a good time to drop your rank?
I'm rank 26 myself right now.

[Lein]

Originally posted by ❦Xeonzsღ💕:

I'm rank 26 myself right now.

I wouldn't suggest doing it that late. Usually if you're past rank 15-20, it's probably not worth it.

[Xeonzs]

Originally posted by Lein:

Originally posted by ❦Xeonzsღ💕:

I'm rank 26 myself right now.

I wouldn't suggest doing it that late. Usually if you're past rank 15-20, it's probably not worth it.

I see, makes sense I guess like you said that if you near 30 you'll have most things upgraded and yea I'm approaching that, I've got everything I use and want to use upgraded and started spending points on other semi-useful things.
Never thought about it that a lvl1 could have tons of more experience and skill with the game than me.

[Lein]

Originally posted by ❦Xeonzsღ💕:

I see, makes sense I guess like you said that if you near 30 you'll have most things upgraded and yea I'm approaching that, I've got everything I use and want to use upgraded and started spending points on other semi-useful things.
Never thought about it that a lvl1 could have tons of more experience and skill with the game than me.

What I was going to say, you pretty much already covered it. But for any other players who may be in a similar situation and are reading this, he's right:

You'll still get research points from picking up samples along the way. Plus, you won't need to upgrade everything right away. You're probably only going to regularly play with the handful of things you like using, so once you upgrade those things, everything else can just be upgraded with time. Before you know it, you'll be there. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Lein]

Also, for anybody else, keep in mind that this isn't required or practicality needed or anything like that. No, you don't need to drop ranks. It's a method that few people find it useful or even know about, so don't feel like you "missed out" or something if you ended up not doing it.

It's no big deal. I never did it this way when I was coming up. Going through everything "organically" works perfectly fine.

[Xeonzs]

Originally posted by Lein:

Also, for anybody else, keep in mind that this isn't required or practicality needed or anything like that. No, you don't need to drop ranks. It's a method that few people find it useful or even know about, so don't feel like you "missed out" or something if you ended up not doing it.

It's no big deal. I never did it this way when I was coming up. Going through everything "organically" works perfectly fine.

I guess it's nice to do once you've already hit 50, would be cool if there was somekind of prestige system, where you'd get like I dunno, a star (maybe up to 3?) on your name card, just for bragging rights.

[BlackjackGT]

My experience is by the time we hit the late 20s we've unlocked and upgraded everything (unless you choose to just store samples as acorns and not use them until a certain level).

At that point, the only reason left to keep playing the game is out of love for the gameplay and contributing for the campaign. And I think that's why among those of us who truly love the game you'll see crazy hour counts, like 360-ish for me, 1,000 for some veterans I know, maybe thousands for true addicts. I've seen hour counts like that in stuff like ARPGs where maybe your'e grinding and grinding for stuff and unlocks. I just feel like with Helldivers crazy hour counts usually just happen out of plain love for the gameplay. :)

If you're only playing the game to unlock access to weapons and perks, and fully upgrading stratagems, that really in the grand scheme of things doesn't take that long. If that's the onjly reason someone's playing Helldivers, then your hours counts won't too too high. imho if's after that 'unlock/upgrade everything' point that you'll figure out if you truly love the game or not. :)