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PsychoDino 2016 年 3 月 26 日 下午 3:32
Always online? Is this a joke?
We cannot even play the single player offline? Why? I really hope that Gearbox changes this fact, or i will not be purchasing. I urge you to do the same!
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davidb11 2016 年 3 月 31 日 上午 11:53 
The DRM that is the same as every MMO ever?
Requiring always onine?

I mean, in the grand scheme of DRM, this is really minor. :)
It doesn't even hold a candle to SecuROM, or say, Starforce, which destroyed CD/DVD drives.

It's basically not any different than Steam.

I mean, yeah, Borderlands 2 had the option to disable online, and play offline.
But this is essentially doing the same thing World of Warcraft does.

If I am wrong, please point out to me, what the DRM does, because all I can tell is it literally just acts like an MMO.
Cerberus 2016 年 3 月 31 日 下午 12:32 
I'm not "defending" always online because I believe it to be superior to its offline alternative, I'm questioning why people make such a big deal out of it. The always online deal makes no difference to me. It does not affect my enjoyment of the game in any way whatsoever. I could see how this would inconvenience people with a slow/unstable internet connection, but perhaps it would be more adviseable for them to stick to single-player games instead of multiplayer games with a possibility for single-player play.

So far, the only argument I've heard against it is: "it's our right as consumer". I've yet to hear a single argument regarding how anyone will be seriously inconvenienced by it. This is why I feel this shouldn't be such a big deal, because everyone has failed to demonstrate it should be.
Singh 2016 年 3 月 31 日 下午 10:53 
引用自 davidb11
The DRM that is the same as every MMO ever?
Requiring always onine?

Except Battleborn isn't an MMO your conflating it as such and incessent responses to every post in this thread reciting it makes you appear as either a shill or incompetent.

引用自 davidb11
It's basically not any different than Steam.

Exactly so always online is an added unneeded requirement - a layer of extra DRM. Good job undermining your own position.

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引用自 Cerberus
I've yet to hear a single argument regarding how anyone will be seriously inconvenienced by [DRM].


Some people are not as blatantly ignorant of the history of these decisions:


Nor the history of other multiplayer focused games that never added unneeded always online requirements: Unreal Tournament, Tribes, Battlefront, Left for Dead 2 etc.

Further it's not us that are against added needless requirements that have to pose any argument. The argument is self-evident.

Rather it's you that needs to explain why a useless requirement should be added - but most people have the common sense not to board a sinking ship.
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Syncroniam 2016 年 4 月 1 日 上午 6:45 
It's 2016, if you have a problem with having online all the time then quit gaming.
davidb11 2016 年 4 月 1 日 上午 8:52 
引用自 Singh
引用自 davidb11
The DRM that is the same as every MMO ever?
Requiring always onine?

Except Battleborn isn't an MMO your conflating it as such and incessent responses to every post in this thread reciting it makes you appear as either a shill or incompetent.

引用自 davidb11
It's basically not any different than Steam.

Exactly so always online is an added unneeded requirement - a layer of extra DRM. Good job undermining your own position.

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引用自 Cerberus
I've yet to hear a single argument regarding how anyone will be seriously inconvenienced by [DRM].


Some people are not as blatantly ignorant of the history of these decisions:


Nor the history of other multiplayer focused games that never added unneeded always online requirements: Unreal Tournament, Tribes, Battlefront, Left for Dead 2 etc.

Further it's not us that are against added needless requirements that have to pose any argument. The argument is self-evident.

Rather it's you that needs to explain why a useless requirement should be added - but most people have the common sense not to board a sinking ship.

Being rude and trolling destroys your credibility.
I'm not shilling for a game I have only slight interest in playing, that is terribl logic, and you should feel bad.

Anyhow, online DRM is how it is for a lot of games, I'm sorry, but not all those games are evil, and not all those companies are evil.

Cerberus 2016 年 4 月 1 日 下午 12:28 
I couldn't view the first link as the website requires me to disable my ad-blocker to be accessed. The other 3 were about Sim City and Watch Dogs, games that are primarily single-player with multi-player features tacked onto them. Battleborn is primarily a multiplayer game that also offers solo play as an option. Why would you expect an offline mode from a game based around competitive PvP and Co-Op PvE?

And as far as the argument being self-evident... I'm still not seeing what the fuss is all about beyond "fighting for our rights!". In this day an age, pretty much everything requires an online connection. It's just the way the gaming industry is evolving. You have every right not to like it, you can boycott always online games if you like, but plastering game forums with propaganda and talking down to the community like they're the mindless drones of an evil corporate entity seems like a little much to me.

I'm just your average gamer looking forward to a game's release, no more, no less.
Alumio 2016 年 4 月 1 日 下午 12:45 
Pretty much what Cerberus said.
Leon Krellmoon 2016 年 4 月 4 日 上午 10:35 
引用自 PsychoDino
引用自 SwordKirby4
It has to be online due to that theres a loot system that is in place; if you were to go offline in the single player and return to the multiplayer in online having gear that is op it would be broken. Besides this also counters hackers who want to create custom gear with 100% sheild penitration and 900% attack power that would cost 0 shards
Hacks are a bad excuse used for control the play experience.
Hackers are an excellent excuse for it. Would you want to play against a team of friends that had hacks? Say they deliberately draw out the game to troll you or other players? What if Gearbox adds a discipline system where you cant join another game if you quit/dc until the previous one is done?
Nero 2016 年 4 月 4 日 下午 1:06 
This is more of a multipalyer game with single player aspects. This is the exact opposite of D3 which was just always online to not pollute the auction house and to force party play - it was a single player game with a small multiplayer aspect.
Funken 2016 年 4 月 4 日 下午 1:11 
I'm assuming they did it to avoid the loot based hacking that plagued Borderlands. The loot based hacking would be even worse in this game because people can then bring that loot into PvP matches.

Is a Online Only great? No, it is not. Is it better than the game being a joke were everyone with the best gear is either a hacker or a friend of a hacker? Yes, remarkably so.

Sometimes you gotta choose between the lesser of two evils; and one of those evils is gamebreaking; the other one of those evils is offered free at McDonalds.
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Hero_Weasel 2016 年 4 月 4 日 下午 5:03 
There are a couple of reasons to want an offline experince. Say youre internet isnt always availible or unreliable (military gammer problems). Perhaps its 10 years later and youre dying to dust Battleborn off and play the story again, but "oh noez" the servers are down cause no one plays anymore and has moved on to BB 2.

While Im not going to complain for this game cause I think many of the reasons are valid to keep some of the character componets server side, it certainly isnt needed in every game.
VoodooVyper 2016 年 4 月 4 日 下午 7:03 
It's 2016, who the ♥♥♥♥ isn't always online with everything else in life? People still complain about this ♥♥♥♥?
PRIMSZ 2016 年 4 月 4 日 下午 10:58 
引用自 PsychoDino
We cannot even play the single player offline? Why? I really hope that I get the good internet, or I am done with gaming. I urge you to avoid this thread

Corrected.
PsychoDino 2016 年 4 月 5 日 上午 7:48 
引用自 Leon
引用自 PsychoDino
Hacks are a bad excuse used for control the play experience.
Hackers are an excellent excuse for it. Would you want to play against a team of friends that had hacks? Say they deliberately draw out the game to troll you or other players? What if Gearbox adds a discipline system where you cant join another game if you quit/dc until the previous one is done?
I do not play online so i do not care about hackers. All i care about it is being able to play a game whenever i want
Cerberus 2016 年 4 月 5 日 下午 12:47 
引用自 PsychoDino
I do not play online so i do not care about hackers. All i care about it is being able to play a game whenever i want

If you don't play online, I would recommend sticking to single-player games. Battleborn is primarily a multiplayer game with single-player as an option, not the other way around. I'm sure you can still get some quality platyime doing nothing but solo PvE missions, but if the occasionnal maintenance is such a dealbreaker for you, then maybe it's time to accept the fact that this game isn't for you.
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