Squad
DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984 Apr 15, 2023 @ 1:37pm
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Cheaters and Hackers?
I am so sick of cheaters and hackers in this game. I literally go to Squad to get a nice semi-realistic experience of the battlefield and then there are times where me and my squadmates die instantly in a suspicious way or somebody is walling. I'm sick and tired of this ♥♥♥♥, is there no solution? Is the solution to just leave this POS game?
Originally posted by Mr. Petticoat:
Originally posted by Holden:
Originally posted by Mr. Petticoat:
"I have x hours and never see any"
"I have x hours and only seen a few.."

The same ol same ol. Either guilty, lying, ignorant, or a combination of those.

Missing coils in brain?

We are not denying existence of cheaters but deny stastatement that "its getting worse, is so bad, cant play becouse of them, etc. we see them all the time"

Blueberries or squad members talk about cheaters when they die (next to me) but 99.99% of the time is their stupidity not knowing they have been seen, heard and generally being noobs.

How about getting better and think? Are you now saying that all ppl in squad are sooo good in this game and only reason why they die is cheaters?

Who is ignorant here?
I would recommend learning to read properly before making a fallacious reply and undermining your entire position.

1.) There are people in this very thread claiming that they have not seen any cheaters. Just as there always is in every related thread.
2.) There are people in this very thread, YOU included, claiming that they have rarely or only seen "a few" cheaters in X amount of hours.

Yes, Both of those examples are either from one of the three listed. It is most certainly a fact that someone with 1k hours, for example, has NOT seen less than 100 cheaters. Why is this a fact?

For one, EAC is proven to be the least functional published anti-cheat in the market.

Two, there are people brazenly showcasing themselves cheating in squad either on youtube, or other forums.

Three, there is over 2 dozen examples of multiplayer games that also only utilize EAC where even small increases in active population directly correlate to increases in cheat activity and bans related to **free** use cheats by manual methods (i.e. admin) and not automation (anti-cheat).

Four, for every BLATANT cheater on the enemy team you have experienced, there are 10 or more less than blatant ones on the enemy team you have experienced but not even noticed.... and for everyone one of those, there is just as high of a probability that there have been just as many on your team.

Then of course you will have the same individuals demanding evidence and video recorded proof. In a game like Squad? What possible incentive would anyone have to destroy their FPS in an already poorly optimized game to possibly be able to ONLY catch the most blatant cheating and then even so not even be able give ANY indication of WHO was cheating?

That is akin to you getting hit by a car when crossing a crosswalk and some strangers are treating you like you are the criminal and demanding video evidence showing the car hitting you ("or it didnt happen"). As if YOU can just magically produce CCTV footage...and footage that clearly shows the persons face...
When in reality... the police and investigators would be responsible for getting the necessary CCTV footage from the outside of businesses along the street and you would be treated like the victim.

This isn't CoD... this isn't Battlefield. There are no over-player names for enemy soldiers. There is no kill-cam. These are that way for a reason. Squad is NOT those games. Those games are also far more optimized. There IS incentive on those types of games for a player to ****assist**** anti-cheat activity by recording/streaming.

So yes. Either ignorant, guilty, a liar, or a combination of those.
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MF DOOM Apr 15, 2023 @ 2:04pm 
anywhere you go they will wait for you, find some comfort in this and just report them. they are bad players , like rotting tomatoes
DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984 Apr 15, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Cheese Tax:
anywhere you go they will wait for you, find some comfort in this and just report them. they are bad players , like rotting tomatoes

There is no comfort, there is no anti-cheat. Cheating has become meta.
Mr. Petticoat Apr 15, 2023 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:
Originally posted by Cheese Tax:
anywhere you go they will wait for you, find some comfort in this and just report them. they are bad players , like rotting tomatoes

There is no comfort, there is no anti-cheat. Cheating has become meta.
Yea it is getting very bad.

EAC is absolutely worthless and this fairly common knowledge. You would be very hard pressed to find a multiplayer game out there with EAC as the only anti-cheat that is NOT overrun by cheaters. Games that are already dead being the exception.
John Cena Apr 15, 2023 @ 3:59pm 
cheating is rampant in every game. need better anti cheats and a system like real ID which results in being banned for life from a instead of an account ban.
Is EAC even keeping on top of this stuff? Are they so behind that they can't even keep up with public cheats for this game or something? What about paid? There needs to be a solid prevention for this because this is really making the game a chore more than something to have fun in.
Originally posted by Holden:
Ive seen cheaters..like 2 maybe 3 times and ive got over 6k hours.

Everyone is saying it... but personally i cant find them

Maybe its down to servers you are playing?

First of all, how do you know when you've met a cheater? You can be killed by someone walling and not know it unless an Admin was watching them to monitor suspicious behavior. Second of all, I have met blatant cheaters and people I would label "suspicious" at most. The blatant people, 1 or 2 occasions, would kill my whole squad with a knife from across the map. It's obvious it's a cheater and they usually end up banned from the server thankfully. The suspicious people, on the other hand, would kill me across the map when I'm hidden behind foliage, or even in such a tactical position nobody would know about and yet I'm killed (Wallhacks can be subtle and you never know). I should know since I've dealt with blatant wallers as well. Third of all, it might be the servers I play on but I play on a lot of servers so it can be hard to tell. Most hackers I dealt with were from China or Russia.
Originally posted by Holden:
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:

First of all, how do you know when you've met a cheater? You can be killed by someone walling and not know it unless an Admin was watching them to monitor suspicious behavior. Second of all, I have met blatant cheaters and people I would label "suspicious" at most. The blatant people, 1 or 2 occasions, would kill my whole squad with a knife from across the map. It's obvious it's a cheater and they usually end up banned from the server thankfully. The suspicious people, on the other hand, would kill me across the map when I'm hidden behind foliage, or even in such a tactical position nobody would know about and yet I'm killed (Wallhacks can be subtle and you never know). I should know since I've dealt with blatant wallers as well. Third of all, it might be the servers I play on but I play on a lot of servers so it can be hard to tell. Most hackers I dealt with were from China or Russia.
Thats the thing. I wasnt killed by anyone who i didnt spot 1st. Never got killed by "hidden knife"

Labels like "suspicious" .. doesnt mean they are hackers.

I really trying to find those hackers or at least see them in action, but never had chance.

Im not saying they dont exists but "its getting worse" statement its for me hard to believe. I didn't see them in 6k hours.

Maybe im lucky

The "hidden knife" hack is very real and they were banned from the server shortly after. Our whole squad was killed in an instant, their knife range ability teleports to us and kills us in an instant. I know this because when I died, it was at the beginning of a game near no enemies and an admin literally told us.

When I say "suspicious" I don't think it marks them as a hacker. I just think it's a possibility. Imagine, if you will, you were a hacker right? I know you aren't one but let's pretend for the situation you were. If you were wallhacking in this very game, you would try to be discrete, yes? So you're not going to be aiming at people through walls all the time, that would give it away. Now you post up on a mountain with a sniper and see your prey, you're ready to laser them to death. You fire a shot and it kills them.

For this next situation, pretend you are the player who just died. Would you have known the player that killed you was a hacker? No? Well then that solves it. They are now labeled "suspicious". You can't tell if you died to somebody with a legit skill or somebody who knows where all enemy targets are with this supervision bullcrap.

This is what I mean by suspicious since I will get to excellent chokepoints and in such a location where I have the jump on the enemy. Then boom. Insta-death to a sniper. I'm not in the open, I'm behind cover or in a bush just like the same sniper. You can't really know for sure if it's skill or hacks and you'll never know since there is no replay for the realism which I respect but it's this very same reason you cannot find any hackers.

Are you lucky? I don't know, I think it's just the servers I'm on.
Conor McNegor Apr 17, 2023 @ 2:18am 
Do NOT the cat
BlаckAdder Apr 17, 2023 @ 3:48am 
AND I THINKED THAT BATTLE EYE SUCK C..K.
EASY ANTI CHEAT HOLD MY BEER
KDM 16AAB Apr 17, 2023 @ 4:21am 
As long as EAC works the majority of the time for Fortnite I don't think Epic care about it working well for anyone else's games.
Originally posted by Holden:
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:

The "hidden knife" hack is very real and they were banned from the server shortly after. Our whole squad was killed in an instant, their knife range ability teleports to us and kills us in an instant. I know this because when I died, it was at the beginning of a game near no enemies and an admin literally told us.

When I say "suspicious" I don't think it marks them as a hacker. I just think it's a possibility. Imagine, if you will, you were a hacker right? I know you aren't one but let's pretend for the situation you were. If you were wallhacking in this very game, you would try to be discrete, yes? So you're not going to be aiming at people through walls all the time, that would give it away. Now you post up on a mountain with a sniper and see your prey, you're ready to laser them to death. You fire a shot and it kills them.

For this next situation, pretend you are the player who just died. Would you have known the player that killed you was a hacker? No? Well then that solves it. They are now labeled "suspicious". You can't tell if you died to somebody with a legit skill or somebody who knows where all enemy targets are with this supervision bullcrap.

This is what I mean by suspicious since I will get to excellent chokepoints and in such a location where I have the jump on the enemy. Then boom. Insta-death to a sniper. I'm not in the open, I'm behind cover or in a bush just like the same sniper. You can't really know for sure if it's skill or hacks and you'll never know since there is no replay for the realism which I respect but it's this very same reason you cannot find any hackers.

Are you lucky? I don't know, I think it's just the servers I'm on.

Bush isnt a full full cover, If you look around you whole body rotates too and its very easy to spot someone from 500m, and its actually easier to spot someone from large distance than closer. In bushes if you are under bush you will be seen and then tap and you are gone.

If you are in building laying down in corner you legs could stick out, if you shooting from cover, muzzle flashes give away as they light up your surroundings, or someone has seen you and marked your position or has heard by sound. Btw foliage in this game is not existent most of the time


Again im not saying there are no hackers in the game but most of the time its probably just someone with good scope and ability to spot moving pixels.

Im playing on random servers in europe and whenever i got killed i know why and from which direction and never could say it was cheater.

One we got killed by invi knife .. But that was long time ago and thats it.

I already know that, but you're the type of person that makes hacking easy for everyone, that's all I'm saying. You have no suspicion or care whatsoever lol,
Lazy-Alu Apr 17, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:
Originally posted by Holden:
Ive seen cheaters..like 2 maybe 3 times and ive got over 6k hours.

Everyone is saying it... but personally i cant find them

Maybe its down to servers you are playing?

First of all, how do you know when you've met a cheater? You can be killed by someone walling and not know it unless an Admin was watching them to monitor suspicious behavior. Second of all, I have met blatant cheaters and people I would label "suspicious" at most. The blatant people, 1 or 2 occasions, would kill my whole squad with a knife from across the map. It's obvious it's a cheater and they usually end up banned from the server thankfully. The suspicious people, on the other hand, would kill me across the map when I'm hidden behind foliage, or even in such a tactical position nobody would know about and yet I'm killed (Wallhacks can be subtle and you never know). I should know since I've dealt with blatant wallers as well. Third of all, it might be the servers I play on but I play on a lot of servers so it can be hard to tell. Most hackers I dealt with were from China or Russia.
Yeah ima go na bro, Pretty easy to see a guy 500m out moving his rifle back and fourth. So thinking you slink around with 50 ppl looking for you is impossible is delusional. Now i play highly active servers with an active community as well as any random server. I am proficient to know how i died everytime. I can guess distance off pop and crack i can tell nato from non nato gunshots. i can tell you the vic driving from the engine. I can also say yes on custom maps ppl get inside the layer but that has all i have ever seen. the amount of sus is very small to the point i deduce it a skill issue more times then not. Tbh I am not saying it is impossible but your idea of it is.
Originally posted by Lazy-Alu:
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:

First of all, how do you know when you've met a cheater? You can be killed by someone walling and not know it unless an Admin was watching them to monitor suspicious behavior. Second of all, I have met blatant cheaters and people I would label "suspicious" at most. The blatant people, 1 or 2 occasions, would kill my whole squad with a knife from across the map. It's obvious it's a cheater and they usually end up banned from the server thankfully. The suspicious people, on the other hand, would kill me across the map when I'm hidden behind foliage, or even in such a tactical position nobody would know about and yet I'm killed (Wallhacks can be subtle and you never know). I should know since I've dealt with blatant wallers as well. Third of all, it might be the servers I play on but I play on a lot of servers so it can be hard to tell. Most hackers I dealt with were from China or Russia.
Yeah ima go na bro, Pretty easy to see a guy 500m out moving his rifle back and fourth. So thinking you slink around with 50 ppl looking for you is impossible is delusional. Now i play highly active servers with an active community as well as any random server. I am proficient to know how i died everytime. I can guess distance off pop and crack i can tell nato from non nato gunshots. i can tell you the vic driving from the engine. I can also say yes on custom maps ppl get inside the layer but that has all i have ever seen. the amount of sus is very small to the point i deduce it a skill issue more times then not. Tbh I am not saying it is impossible but your idea of it is.

Didn't know we had a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ expert on our hands! Why don't you deploy to war and see how good you are NOT.

The idea isn't impossible since I've seen people hacking and footage of it. You wouldn't know the second difference between skill and walling if it hit you in the face with the vanilla game.
Originally posted by Holden:
Originally posted by DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984:

I already know that, but you're the type of person that makes hacking easy for everyone, that's all I'm saying. You have no suspicion or care whatsoever lol,

One or 2 arguments and it will be me fault that ppl are cheating..
But ill take it as a compliment,im better than cheaters:) i never got killed in "questionable" way so probably i outsmart them

No. I dont see cheaters or seen any "suspicious" players in over 6k hours played in this game, this is my fact from my perspective.

That's cuz you're European and think that way.
KDM 16AAB Apr 17, 2023 @ 11:14pm 
We got us a yankie doodle dandy here.
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