When do I start being able to see enemies?

[hbag]

So far I seem to just get domed from nowhere while the rest of my squad fires at seemingly nothing in the distance. In the rare event I do see someone I have to squint at them for five minutes to tell if it's a guy in my uniform or a guy in the enemy team's almost identical uniform. Every post I've seen with similar problems, people tell them something along the lines of "you only have 2000 hours, you need to play longer". I sincerely want to enjoy this game but I don't think I've even fired a gun since I left the tutorial.

[Drango]

There were more elaborate aiming mechanics that would reduce accuracy and prolong firefights to encourage teamwork and movement before the last patch, then it was reverted back to laserguns everywhere so it's back to instadeath whackamole but with an annoyingly large map. Sorry but this is pretty much the experience now, if you are seen you are dead outright.

[Moore]

it really does take time to get use to i had trouble at the start finding people , just keep playing you will get it

[hbag]

Originally posted by Moore:

it really does take time to get use to i had trouble at the start finding people , just keep playing you will get it

I have seen people saying this to people with hundreds of hours in the game. I am not sinking thousands into this just to be able to actually take part in the game.

[Blitzer66]

Originally posted by hbag:

Originally posted by Moore:

it really does take time to get use to i had trouble at the start finding people , just keep playing you will get it

I have seen people saying this to people with hundreds of hours in the game. I am not sinking thousands into this just to be able to actually take part in the game.

then until you are able to figure out the offensive part, being a role player within your squad seems to be the best route.

try using mortars, building stuff, running logistics, etc.

[Communist Wind]

Originally posted by hbag:

Originally posted by Moore:

it really does take time to get use to i had trouble at the start finding people , just keep playing you will get it

I have seen people saying this to people with hundreds of hours in the game. I am not sinking thousands into this just to be able to actually take part in the game.

join a squad and do what people say. The best thing to do as a beginner imo besides rifelman is to play medic. You will have a clear task of helping bandage and heal teammates. You wont be the first guy getting shot because you need to protect yourself. And by doing this you will watch and learn quickly a lot about this game. And have a general idea of where enemies are coming from if you pay attention. just get prone throw smokes and pick your boys up. itll make your experience much more enjoyable. There are many role people play where they usually dont fire their weapon during the game, at least first that is. Thats my recommendation

[BattlePants#2233]

when you start using your eyes... I don't know what to tell you man. The enemies are there, you're just blind.
You have to hug walls and use cover more.. And be more observant, that is STOP running the whole time, and look around more. You have to be smart when moving, move slow, listen A LOT, pay more attention to cracks and windows in buildings. People will camp entire streets through a hole in a random wall or a crack between 2 gates..

[zea]

Originally posted by hbag:

Originally posted by Moore:

it really does take time to get use to i had trouble at the start finding people , just keep playing you will get it

I have seen people saying this to people with hundreds of hours in the game. I am not sinking thousands into this just to be able to actually take part in the game.

it doesn't take hundreds of hours

[Radegast]

press M

[Bakunin]

Originally posted by Drango:

There were more elaborate aiming mechanics that would reduce accuracy and prolong firefights to encourage teamwork and movement before the last patch, then it was reverted back to laserguns everywhere so it's back to instadeath whackamole but with an annoyingly large map. Sorry but this is pretty much the experience now, if you are seen you are dead outright.

"...reverted back to laserguns..." I do not get where you people even get this idea from. Not even pre ICO was laser guns. If you cannot hit anything or being unable to see anything its on you. You people just want to be not shot right away for making a mistake that is all. And on top of that you like role playing more than actual FPS tactics. Communication and coordination does not mean you need noodle arms.

Besides ICO has not been deleted. It has been toned down.

[Concussion gaming]

All you need is a competent SL or buddy. Them with a bino, you with the rifle(them showing you the enemy). It will teach your eyes and brain what to look for. It is rather subtle on any forested map. Eventually you'll be able to distinguish the foliage movement from someone running through it. And then you'll eventually start making out the subtle differences in the uniforms.

It will take time, regardless. More time if you learn by yourself- I didn't get a single kill for like 7h.

If you can't find a good SL that can do this "handholding" for you, don't get pissed. Good SLs are pretty rare, and are usually overworked by the rest of the team, so your needs will naturally fall behind the team's.

In any case you should heed what the rest of the dudes said, and positioning yourself behind the first contact fighters will always give you more time and information where the enemy is.

And last- your PC will make a huge difference- the higher your resolution is, the easier it is to spot enemies.

Hope this helps man, gl.

[sunblocker]

its take sometime to learn who is foe or ur own peeps. Some have other Helmtes ..some have other backpacks and some run in another Animation. And u will learn to hear! U can than easy hear the gunshoots and will know where enemy is. BUT when u play on a good Server with good SL´s + Teamleaders u will see everthing on the map. Alwasy check map first..so if u see no friendly in a directions but see flashs or hear shoots etc u can shoot on everthing that moves...check smoke..medics throw smoke on the boys to get them up. Or..take kits with no scopes and use the binocles^^. Normaly in a good squad every player will shout where enemy is.. never say ..i see enemy on the right or at three^^..always use numbers (94) or sides N/E. If tanks or APC aer closed or far away and open fire in u dircetion..stay down..and dont move..until u gut AT kit. AND dont use Medic role if u are new to squad.medic is important to ur team and u have some hours to play it right.

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by hbag:

So far I seem to just get domed from nowhere while the rest of my squad fires at seemingly nothing in the distance. In the rare event I do see someone I have to squint at them for five minutes to tell if it's a guy in my uniform or a guy in the enemy team's almost identical uniform. Every post I've seen with similar problems, people tell them something along the lines of "you only have 2000 hours, you need to play longer". I sincerely want to enjoy this game but I don't think I've even fired a gun since I left the tutorial.

Something video games have falsely taught people, is that in gunfights, you are shooting at people you see.

As someone who has been in both the USMC and Army as 0331 and 11B respectively, the reality is, MOST shooting is at "areas'.
Where you "Think" the enemy is. Only the incompetent enemy lets you see him.

Look for movement, fire at the movement. Maybe you kill them, maybe you dont, that is warfare.

[Seb]

Just keep at it. Finding them and figuring out if they with you or enemies is the main part of the game.

[Deathbear56]

Originally posted by hbag:

So far I seem to just get domed from nowhere while the rest of my squad fires at seemingly nothing in the distance. In the rare event I do see someone I have to squint at them for five minutes to tell if it's a guy in my uniform or a guy in the enemy team's almost identical uniform. Every post I've seen with similar problems, people tell them something along the lines of "you only have 2000 hours, you need to play longer". I sincerely want to enjoy this game but I don't think I've even fired a gun since I left the tutorial.

honestly just sounds like a skill issue. stop sprinting, get low, play in bushes, use natural cover and trees. play this like its real life and you'll start, seeing more people, getting more kills, and preforming better. this isnt call of duty, this isnt battlefield. sit in a bush and wait. if you dont like the game, play smth else. no way in a realistic scenario can you go from dead sprint to shooting accurate. stop being a little ♥♥♥♥♥ and play it slow.

[ggty]

I had a similar experience early on.
I will offer a few tips that I do that helps me in game.

- This is not a run and gun game per se. Value your in game life and dont die and respawn over and over. Dont run down open streets right into fire. Use cover and camp more. Wait for your shots and realize the situation you are in.

- when you move ...move from cover to cover. Meaning take cover and look and listen to whats around you. If your mates are shooting or getting dropped respond to that situation. If taking losses take cover and try to cover lanes that your mates cannot cover. If your team is advancing then proceed but always be looking for cover if shooting goes off.

- pick the right role. as a rifleman you can get a a scoped rifle to help see the battlefield. If if you play a role with no scope then you will have binoculars. This will give you better vision of the field in front of you. use the binos before your gun to find targets. Dont worry about getting kills..try to just see where they are and where they are going. Once you start being able to spot them, then, you can start shooting. using the binos will give you that experience to get better at spotting which will lead to getting those kills.

- as you play and advance on the field, its not about rushing around and then 360 no scope shooting other players, move and then take a position and look and listen. scan the area first with just eyes and then bring up your scope to scan the area. If it looks clear and no shots are heard then progress. its a slow march but with practice and experience you will learn to move faster.

- use the map. the map shows a lot of what is going on around you and where to go and even marks where the enemy is. so this will give you an idea where to be looking. so if you see someone and dont know if teammates, open the map and see if its team.

- dont be point person. follow behind but not too close to one of your teammates. so if they spot one you can use that intel. if they shoot ask direction and location. if they go down ask where they got shot from.

This game is not TeamFortress where you jump around and try to out shoot other players. Its one shot one kill. Its tactical. You dont want to die in game and just keep respawning.

At the start of the match look at your teammates uniforms to see what your team looks like so anyone who doesnt look like your mates are the targets. You can also hit ENTER and click the teams tap on the top left so see the teams uniforms. usually its the helmets that give it away when the uniforms are close.


This is a harder game than the usual FPS because tactics, camo, and positioning all matter.
there is a lot more but slowing it down, moving with purpose and using cover will put you in the position where the enemy will come upon you and not see you.

Happy Hunting.