Team-killing.

[Fry-cowski]

Hi all. Today I team-killed 2 teammates in a row. The setting was a heavy stand of trees with lots of shadows. The first guy I immediately revived and apologized to. And the second guy, I was in the middle of applying my last bandage when I was bounced from the server for not apologizing. Didn't have the time.

I'm still new to this game but have played enough to have noticed that I have a recurring problem positively identifying teammates. I look at people expecting to see their name-tags over their heads. Teammates name-tags are in blue and squad-mates are in green. Correct?

But when I see someone off in the distance and am unsure of who/what he is I will put my sights on him and if he is a friendly, I would expect to see his name-tag. But it's not always there. I find that if I move my sights up and down, back and fourth sometimes a team-mates name will appear and sometimes it doesn't. This takes up presses fractions of seconds and I can't tell you how many times I have been killed by the other guy while trying to make a positive ID so I'm a little trigger happy. And yes, I am learning to tell the different uniforms apart but in those dark and view obstructed places, and with several of the different uniforms the same basic green....well ♥♥♥♥ happens.

I understand and approve of the idea of having name-tags appearing somewhat subdued in the interest of having a more realistic battle situation but is anyone else have a problem with teammates name-tags not appearing constantly and consistently over their heads?

I have no wish to team-kill anyone or get a bad reputation among the community, or the admins of any server or anything like that. I just want to have fun with the boys around me playing the game together.

So is this name-tag appearing/disappearing problem unique to me? And can any of you give me any tips to help me keep the team-killing to a minimum.

Fiy-cowski.

[Onimaho]

Name tags aren't really there for friend/foe identification...even though we do use them as such.

They are more there for identifying a player for voip communication.

You are supposed to rely on learning about equipment, uniforms, and map reading.

[Chungal Grease]

I've played since the first week the game came out and I've always had all friendly tags turned completely off because its way more challenging. Same reason I pretty much always exclusively play S/L with the iron sight rifle. Friendly tags and optics are for low skill players.

[Geebus]

Just about every hunters education course will tell you the same thing: don't just shoot as soon as you see what you think is the animal you're hunting. Always positively identify what it is you are aiming at. Apply that same thinking here.

A big part of this is just paying attention more. Watch where your friendlies are shooting. Use your map all the time. If there is sombody moving to the north but you can't tell who he is, look on the map. If he isn't a blue diamond, blast away. Honestly just understanding where your teammates are in relation to yourself will probably solve most of the problem.

Also, when you are trying to learn the uniforms, don't just focus on the colors. Learn the shapes.

But whatever you do, don't focus on the name tag as a way to identify friendlies. That is the whole reason you are in this mess in the first place.

[Χ Α Ο Σ]

as said, use your map, is that guy a friendly on the map? if not he maybe a enemy, also as said look for tracer rounds and their direction, if you play the tutorial there is a board with all the uniforms of the factions, as said, study that and know who your enemy is, if in doubt, dont shoot :P

[Timmeh]

Some server admins (Squad Europe cough cough) have a stick up their butt about this sorta thing.
When you don't type the obligatory "sry tk" in all chat (which is stupid as hell) they assume you're intentionally tk'ing and will kick you.
It's moronic, but hey.
Just avoid those servers.

[Psycha]

Originally posted by Timmeh:

Some server admins (Squad Europe cough cough) have a stick up their butt about this sorta thing.
When you don't type the obligatory "sry tk" in all chat (which is stupid as hell) they assume you're intentionally tk'ing and will kick you.
It's moronic, but hey.
Just avoid those servers.

I've seen a guy in a BTR TK 1 guy at a time and say "srry TK" over and over after each guy. He was gunning at a 300m range so he of course could see who he was shooting. In the end he didnt get a kick or ban because of that stupid system admins have. At the same time he was killing enemies so Admins thought he was just getting people caught in the crossfire.

Yea no.. 30+ TK's with sorry isnt gonna cut it if I was an Admin xD

[Geebus]

Originally posted by PsychaChi:

I've seen a guy in a BTR TK 1 guy at a time and say "srry TK" over and over after each guy. He was gunning at a 300m range so he of course could see who he was shooting. In the end he didnt get a kick or ban because of that stupid system admins have. At the same time he was killing enemies so Admins thought he was just getting people caught in the crossfire.

Yea no.. 30+ TK's with sorry isnt gonna cut it if I was an Admin xD

You'll get automatically kicked at 7 team kills no matter what.

[Fry-cowski]

Originally posted by Timmeh:

Some server admins (Squad Europe cough cough) have a stick up their butt about this sorta thing.
When you don't type the obligatory "sry tk" in all chat (which is stupid as hell) they assume you're intentionally tk'ing and will kick you.
It's moronic, but hey.
Just avoid those servers.

Wow. Hadn't though of that. Also, I never use chat. What's the point when everyone has voice coms?

Thanks for this new info.

The F-er.

[Timmeh]

Originally posted by Fry-cowski:

Originally posted by Timmeh:

Some server admins (Squad Europe cough cough) have a stick up their butt about this sorta thing.
When you don't type the obligatory "sry tk" in all chat (which is stupid as hell) they assume you're intentionally tk'ing and will kick you.
It's moronic, but hey.
Just avoid those servers.

Wow. Hadn't though of that. Also, I never use chat. What's the point when everyone has voice coms?

Thanks for this new info.

The F-er.

Afaik it's because the admins will sometimes look at the chat when they get tk notifications as the only way to determine if it's intentional. Even if nobody complains.

Really unnecessary though if the server has auto-kick enabled, because by the time you commit enough TKs to make it clear it's almost certainly intentional you'll get kicked anyways. Sucks for commander sometimes, but works well the rest of the time.

The admins that kick you for not apologizing in chat are just ♥♥♥♥♥ who want to feel important.
And generally when you actually have a guy TK'ing intentionally they just apologize and the admin doesn't kick them anyways cause they just didn't see it.

It's the dumbest server rule ever and you should just avoid servers where admins take it seriously.

[Barbaric Corgi]

Spam the M button (map key). I check that thing all the time, especially if I can't get a positive ID on my target. Ask for fireteam lead too if you can, that way you can instantly mark what you're about to fire on, and double check your map to see if your mark is over any friendlies. I know it sounds tedious, but that map key is your lifeline for everything. A lot of people under-utilize it, especially noobs. They run over a lot of friendly mines too haha.

Also, sometimes it's best not to shoot right off the bat. Close the distance to <300m before engaging. The last thing you want happening is a more skilled player engaging you in a long distance firefight and getting outgunned. If I see an enemy player >300m, I don't shoot, I get closer. Sometimes he'll lead me to his friends.

Originally posted by Geebus:

Originally posted by PsychaChi:

I've seen a guy in a BTR TK 1 guy at a time and say "srry TK" over and over after each guy. He was gunning at a 300m range so he of course could see who he was shooting. In the end he didnt get a kick or ban because of that stupid system admins have. At the same time he was killing enemies so Admins thought he was just getting people caught in the crossfire.

Yea no.. 30+ TK's with sorry isnt gonna cut it if I was an Admin xD

You'll get automatically kicked at 7 team kills no matter what.

If you get 7 kills within a certain time limit. There have been games I've exceeded 7 kills, particularly when I'm laying mines, and I haven't been kicked.

[RackEmUp187]

This game has a huge problem with its name tag display. They should give you an option of displaying the name tag over far distances. Hell let loose has this option and it helps to reduce friendly fire. At a certain distance you really can't tell by the uniform. Let's say you are in a Tigers RWS For example, and It's Canadians versus Russians, their uniform is both green.
up close and on foot I can tell the difference because the Canadian where a tan weapons belt around their waist and the shape of their helmets are slightly different than the Russians, who have black boots. From afar with the fog, they look similar. I posted this on the squad forums about name tag distance display:

https://forums.joinsquad.com/discussion/201/teamamte-nametag-display-not-showing-from-far-in-vehicle#latest

I rarely teamkill when I'm on foot bc it's easier to see the enemies than when you are the gunner of a vehicle bc there is this fog/haze filter when you are looking through the scope of the vehicle's turret.

I remember there was an enemy position on the map that was marked and no teammates were around it. About 30 seconds later I saw one guy in the distance but couldn't tell if he was Canadian or Russian and I fired bc I was sure it was an enemy and I just checked the map and it had enemy markers around that area. It turned out to be a teammate. I shouldn't have to check my map every time to make sure if it's an enemy or not because that could be the difference between life or death. They definitely need to improve the name tag display when you're in a vehicle, that's for sure. Some people have eye problems ex: color blindness and it doesn't make it easier.

[FissionChips]

While it's inconvenient, the best course of action is just to drop everything and apologize as soon as you notice the TK.

[SIX]

Originally posted by Barbaric Corgi 2.0:

Spam the M button (map key). I check that thing all the time, especially if I can't get a positive ID on my target. Ask for fireteam lead too if you can, that way you can instantly mark what you're about to fire on, and double check your map to see if your mark is over any friendlies. I know it sounds tedious, but that map key is your lifeline for everything. A lot of people under-utilize it, especially noobs. They run over a lot of friendly mines too haha.

Also, sometimes it's best not to shoot right off the bat. Close the distance to <300m before engaging. The last thing you want happening is a more skilled player engaging you in a long distance firefight and getting outgunned. If I see an enemy player >300m, I don't shoot, I get closer. Sometimes he'll lead me to his friends.

Originally posted by Geebus:

You'll get automatically kicked at 7 team kills no matter what.

If you get 7 kills within a certain time limit. There have been games I've exceeded 7 kills, particularly when I'm laying mines, and I haven't been kicked.

7 tk for one round and your out same thing on every serv its owi auto kick.

[Barbaric Corgi]

Originally posted by SIX:

Originally posted by Barbaric Corgi 2.0:

Spam the M button (map key). I check that thing all the time, especially if I can't get a positive ID on my target. Ask for fireteam lead too if you can, that way you can instantly mark what you're about to fire on, and double check your map to see if your mark is over any friendlies. I know it sounds tedious, but that map key is your lifeline for everything. A lot of people under-utilize it, especially noobs. They run over a lot of friendly mines too haha.

Also, sometimes it's best not to shoot right off the bat. Close the distance to <300m before engaging. The last thing you want happening is a more skilled player engaging you in a long distance firefight and getting outgunned. If I see an enemy player >300m, I don't shoot, I get closer. Sometimes he'll lead me to his friends.



If you get 7 kills within a certain time limit. There have been games I've exceeded 7 kills, particularly when I'm laying mines, and I haven't been kicked.

7 tk for one round and your out same thing on every serv its owi auto kick.

That's interesting, I'll look into it. Where did you find this info? Cause I blew up a full logi once with a mine and I didn't get auto-kicked. There were like 10 people in it and all their names took up half my screen

[Insanity]

Originally posted by Zylfrax791:

I've played since the first week the game came out and I've always had all friendly tags turned completely off because its way more challenging. Same reason I pretty much always exclusively play S/L with the iron sight rifle. Friendly tags and optics are for low skill players.

Damn you're so good at the game! You should join the pro league.