The ONE thread for Squad's "optimization".

[Bait]

TL;DR NOTHING needs be done besides: adding multi-core support.
TL;DR #2: from now on we should ask for "Multi-core support" instead of the empty "optimization". This way there's no room for excuses.

I intended to leave it as that, but I thought it could help my fellow players understanding other UE4 games as well and why so many rumours about their poor performance.

Like most UE4 games, this game runs mostly on one, max two cores. Thus, as with any game whose devs have been too lazy to care about making it multicore even after 7 years, the only solution is to have a CPU that's not just "fast" but has good single-threaded performance.

As of Squad 3.4, this means:
A CPU that gets a single-thread score of at least 3100 in Passmark:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
(of course feel free to add other single-thread benchmark references as well, it can only help)

But when choosing your CPU, please also consider its overall (multi-core) performance, as in:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
And be aware of misnomers like "3800X3d", which has nothing to do with 3D performance, just that the CPU's caches are stacked on top of each other. It's actually slower than OG 3800X in some benchmarks, and the 3900X is both faster and cheaper.

It really doesn't matter which GPU: a fast enough CPU can get a 1060 to 90-100fps in FHD, whereas a slow CPU will get your 3080ti on low 60s.

Stupid as it sounds.

In other words, this game will NEVER have any satisfying "optimization" work before becoming multi-core. This can only be done by OWI, and isn't an easy task - which isn't an excuse NOT to be done, but rather that work must start ASAP if we want to keep playing it a year from now without shelling another 2k in a new machine.

In other words #2, instead of referring generically to "optimization", let's be as precise as possible and just ask for "multicore support" from now on. NOTHING they can do will make as much of a difference, not even DX12 support.

Edit: added threads for my specific settings for Squad, to help you find and tune yours:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/393380/discussions/6/3487502671137737515/?tscn=1668488681
and another one for workarounds for common issues after a Squad update (crashes, freezes etc.) :
https://steamcommunity.com/app/393380/discussions/6/5595187488988270610/

But beware all of these will only last until Squad's next update, as we all know OWI recklessly and consistently ♥♥♥♥♥ performance with every update, despite misleading us to think they're trying otherwise.

Peace to all.

[Bait]

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[BaD-A1m]

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[Olli]

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[Southpaw]

[Preacher]

+1

[Mossy]

UP!

[Average War Enjoyer]

I can only get acceptable frames on extremely low ping servers. Even then I get dips during intense firefights. Still the best fps game out right now.

[PizzaSloth]

UP

[voidN]

+1

[Namdaets]

+1

[Bait]

Up! Added links to my performance thread and troubleshooting thread. ;)

[Mr Peanuts]

I had a 3090 and an i9 9900k and was getting awful fps down to the low 40s on any settings in the last few updates, thats way worse than I ever got on my 1080ti and 2700k system back when I had that and played squad.

HOWEVER I upgraded to a 5800x3d and suddenly was getting 130fps again like before (the updates that ruined performance). Clearly that cpu, which is specifically made for poorly cpu bound single threaded games, is doing a massive amount of work (though shows only 3% usage lol) in this game. That must mean something, not sure what.

[an-addiction]

Woah are people actually agreeing on something?

[Geebus]

If given the ability to edit the store page recommended specs, what would you put? I can't imagine how many people have been screwed by the impressively vague "any CPU with 4-6 cores" with a years old budget card. Hell, that is pretty much everyone's computers at this point and its very clear that not everyone has the specs to run the game. Does OWI want to avoid a situation where the CPU requirement makes the GPU requirement look ancient? Seems like a really powerful CPU paired up with a OK graphics card would scream "I'm unoptimized!"

Of course it just brings up the question, why do the developers keep pushing past the limits of the game? We've got to assume they know how far they can go as well as we do, if not better. Just seems like, unless they were banking on newer hardware making up the difference, they jumped the gun a bit much with the graphics overhaul earlier this year. Work within the budget you've got instead of going into debt and hoping you can make extra later, y'know?

[BaD-A1m]

Originally posted by NiAlCaNikk:

Woah are people actually agreeing on something?

Well this kinda shows how much community is frustrated with this ... Up