Why is performance SO BAD now?

[🪖[k]vnnlegacy-]

after a crazy update.. performance falls to the ground ..

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

UuuuhAhOohAhAh の投稿を引用：

PFC Demigo 29ID の投稿を引用：

MSI RTX 2070 Super
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
64GB RAM DDR4-3600
Stable 60FPS
1080p, High Settings

60 fps is not enough for people with higher refresh rate on their monitors, 60 is not enough for me for a FPS game.

And thats a bad Gaming Standard imo

[IgrokSQUAD]

PFC Demigo 29ID の投稿を引用：

UuuuhAhOohAhAh の投稿を引用：

60 fps is not enough for people with higher refresh rate on their monitors, 60 is not enough for me for a FPS game.

And thats a bad Gaming Standard imo

How is having smoother video a bad gaming standard? We aren't in 2016, we are in 2022, most of the people have modern monitors with a refresh rate higher than 60, all new laptops are being released with displays, which have higher than 60 refresh rate. I have all games on ultra and they run with 100+ fps. Thing with SQUAD is, it is not even able to hit stable 100 fps with low settings due to my CPU, which isn't bad, just too modern for stuff like single core performance. Also, smoother video helps A LOT in such games like FPS. From your statement I can guess that you never used a monitor with at least 144Hz, beacuse no one wants to go back to 60 from 144, everything is just smoother on the higher refresh rate. 60 is fine for some SP story games maybe, but certainly not for a FPS game.

Edit: I looked into your profile, you have a 144Hz monitor. Then I have even more questions on how is having smoother video in a FPS is a bad game standard?

[Gunloaded]

Austin96 の投稿を引用：

trust me its a complete joke. I have a RTX 2070 and a i7-9700k@4.6Ghz and it runs so bad for me. The funny this is that if I play on low or epic, the framerate is the same . I will never understand the reason to improve the graphics. It looked fine before the new update, but hey lets ♥♥♥♥ up this game with new graphics and screw the new content updates. Im really hoping they update this soon, or somehow just go back to the old update (if thats even possible). I love squad a lot, but this is sad to see.

+1

I have a i7-8700k, a 2070 super and play at 1080p 144hz at max settings and struggle to get 85 when my usual was 85-110

[Shore]

people here with $3000 computers like

"I don't have a performance problem, must be just you, try clearing your shader cache"

NO that is not going to work unless you already have a supercomputer and you're having lag. For people with midline computers this update just killed their game with all the shadows and textures. It doesn't matter how high or low the textures are, there's simply too many of them.

[IgrokSQUAD]

Shore の投稿を引用：

people here with $3000 computers like

"I don't have a performance problem, must be just you, try clearing your shader cache"

NO that is not going to work unless you already have a supercomputer and you're having lag. For people with midline computers this update just killed their game with all the shadows and textures. It doesn't matter how high or low the textures are, there's simply too many of them.

The game perfromance was pretty much killed after the release of 1.0, 2.0 just made it worse.

[KDM 16AAB]

Shore の投稿を引用：

people here with $3000 computers like

"I don't have a performance problem, must be just you, try clearing your shader cache"

NO that is not going to work unless you already have a supercomputer and you're having lag. For people with midline computers this update just killed their game with all the shadows and textures. It doesn't matter how high or low the textures are, there's simply too many of them.

Not accurate. I'm running a 4-5 year old pc with the only recent update been going from a 1050ti to a 1660ti, and the game is running good so far. So it's not going to be a case of Low/Mid range being ♥♥♥♥♥♥. There are people on the discussions who are running 30x0 series cards and using newer CPU's and they are saying they have performance problems as well.

You should not be comparing it to Low/Mid/High range PC's but more along the lines of combinations of the different hardwares and installed drivers/firmwares for the devices that use them. This can and will amount to thousands of different hardware configurations and driver/firmware version combinations for gfx card, motherboard, hhd's/ssd's, even cpu's can have specific drivers that can be installed that most people don't know about or don't bother with. The people who like to vomit the word Optimisation every 2nd/3rd thread should bare this in mind.

[Bezzy]

If they didn't force you to render shadows 700m that would be helpful, but I guess "its bad for game play."

[IgrokSQUAD]

KDM-16AAB の投稿を引用：

Shore の投稿を引用：

people here with $3000 computers like

"I don't have a performance problem, must be just you, try clearing your shader cache"

NO that is not going to work unless you already have a supercomputer and you're having lag. For people with midline computers this update just killed their game with all the shadows and textures. It doesn't matter how high or low the textures are, there's simply too many of them.

Not accurate. I'm running a 4-5 year old pc with the only recent update been going from a 1050ti to a 1660ti, and the game is running good so far. So it's not going to be a case of Low/Mid range being ♥♥♥♥♥♥. There are people on the discussions who are running 30x0 series cards and using newer CPU's and they are saying they have performance problems as well.

You should not be comparing it to Low/Mid/High range PC's but more along the lines of combinations of the different hardwares and installed drivers/firmwares for the devices that use them. This can and will amount to thousands of different hardware configurations and driver/firmware version combinations for gfx card, motherboard, hhd's/ssd's, even cpu's can have specific drivers that can be installed that most people don't know about or don't bother with. The people who like to vomit the word Optimisation every 2nd/3rd thread should bare this in mind.

The game has no multithread optimization, that is fact and no one can deny that. The game is just poorly optimized.

[KDM 16AAB]

UuuuhAhOohAhAh の投稿を引用：

KDM-16AAB の投稿を引用：

Not accurate. I'm running a 4-5 year old pc with the only recent update been going from a 1050ti to a 1660ti, and the game is running good so far. So it's not going to be a case of Low/Mid range being ♥♥♥♥♥♥. There are people on the discussions who are running 30x0 series cards and using newer CPU's and they are saying they have performance problems as well.

You should not be comparing it to Low/Mid/High range PC's but more along the lines of combinations of the different hardwares and installed drivers/firmwares for the devices that use them. This can and will amount to thousands of different hardware configurations and driver/firmware version combinations for gfx card, motherboard, hhd's/ssd's, even cpu's can have specific drivers that can be installed that most people don't know about or don't bother with. The people who like to vomit the word Optimisation every 2nd/3rd thread should bare this in mind.

The game has no multithread optimization, that is fact and no one can deny that. The game is just poorly optimized.

Looks how old the engine is, it is not running the latest available so those opts may not be as good as a result. An unfortunate consequence when a code base contains so much custom code now that an update to a later version of UE4 would be very hard and time consuming to even contemplate.

[IgrokSQUAD]

KDM-16AAB の投稿を引用：

UuuuhAhOohAhAh の投稿を引用：

The game has no multithread optimization, that is fact and no one can deny that. The game is just poorly optimized.

Looks how old the engine is, it is not running the latest available so those opts may not be as good as a result. An unfortunate consequence when a code base contains so much custom code now that an update to a later version of UE4 would be very hard and time consuming to even contemplate.

Ye, devs just don't know how to use UE, pretty simple. We have seen how performance got worse since 1.0.

[Onimaho]

clear your cache

solved.

[Chungal Grease]

My computer with an i7-8700, RTX2080 32GB DDR4 and SSD will run the Unreal Engine 5 tech demo "Valley of the Ancient" with ease at 100+ fps on full cinematic settings with full cpu and gpu utilization. The map in the tech demo is absolutely massive and showcases the new Lumen, Nanite and World Partition features of the engine.

Meanwhile, on the other hand running Squad built with Unreal Engine 4.23 from 2019 I'm lucky to get 20-30 fps now regardless of low or cinematic settings with cpu and gpu utilization both under 16%.

If you've got a spare 205GB of space and your computer meets the minimum specifications go ahead and try it then you'll see for yourself that its a "them" problem and not a "you" problem.

[Gonzo]

idk, i think the performance dropped a little bit for me but not that much.

Edit:
ok the performance is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ garbo rn.

Just bought myself a 3060 and was happy to game on medium at around 80 fps.
Now im running this game at 50 fps on low settings.....

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell.
I dont understand how you can say that you saved performance with the new lighting/shadow system etc and then we end up with half of the fps on new gen gpus.

[nisankan]

Really disappointed after update. graphic very poor. Totally took out game mood

[Salamimann]

It dropped from 90ish to 60ish for me