The PLANMC blue camo hurts game balance

[soc70056]

Having both the vehicles and uniforms be a standout blue for one team and not the other causes the PLANMC team to be seen first and shot first in most engagements. As example, the USMC or VDV can hide in bushes for an ambush, but the blue PLANMC can't. I personally would love for the PLANMC to receive the standard PLA uniform to at least even the odds.

[『AX』Elon Musk]

之所以是蓝色迷彩，是因这个中国海军陆战队主要任务是在滩头开辟通路引导陆军登陆，没有在陆地纵深作战的需求。兄弟们我说的对吗？

[MrMLGDoge]

I for one like looking drippy through the enemies scope before getting shot against a green forest backdrop.

[1911san]

Oprindeligt skrevet af TardWrangler:

Oprindeligt skrevet af BRICK SHlTHOUSE:

Sounds like a CCP Uniform choosing skill issue to me. Authoritarian nations like the CCP absolutely LOVE to march around on Parade grounds to show how stronk they are.

The blue I guess shows they are Marines because water, makes them stand out on the parade ground :D

They gonna be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bricks when they have to cross the yellow river under fire lol

They had their camo changed into type 21 training suit and working suit in 2021.12.
Check up this gov link or Google “21式作训服” if u want to get more info.
http://www.mva.gov.cn/sy/xx/gfxx/202112/t20211220_54302.html

[Drifter]

Let's make one team blue and the other red, so we can get rid of this bush hiding which infests the game ever since the 'lets add pitch black bushes to gorodok and yeho' update

[BRlCKSHlTHOUSE]

Oprindeligt skrevet af BeerCan楚云飞:

之所以是蓝色迷彩，是因这个中国海军陆战队主要任务是在滩头开辟通路引导陆军登陆，没有在陆地纵深作战的需求。兄弟们我说的对吗？

Super camo on those sandy, rocky and grassy beach landings They'd be great bobbing in the water or for a split second silhouetted on the horizon if it's pure flat and their opponent is on the same level maybe, but yeah it's pretty bad.

[TardWrangler]

Oprindeligt skrevet af BRICK SHlTHOUSE:

Oprindeligt skrevet af BeerCan楚云飞:

之所以是蓝色迷彩，是因这个中国海军陆战队主要任务是在滩头开辟通路引导陆军登陆，没有在陆地纵深作战的需求。兄弟们我说的对吗？

Super camo on those sandy, rocky and grassy beach landings They'd be great bobbing in the water or for a split second silhouetted on the horizon if it's pure flat and their opponent is on the same level maybe, but yeah it's pretty bad.

And theyve failed to show competency in landing when the weather isnt perfect or at night so its probably gonna be completely flat and sunny if it ever does happen haha

[vikus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af BeerCan楚云飞:

之所以是蓝色迷彩，是因这个中国海军陆战队主要任务是在滩头开辟通路引导陆军登陆，没有在陆地纵深作战的需求。兄弟们我说的对吗？

Tienanmen Square Protests

[vikus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Meow wow:

This is standard issue for PLA. In all honesty RU should go through a nerf removing all vehicles and any "tech" equipment and just copy the insurgent loadouts

True, China has a history of being super idiotic with pretty much all of their military decisions. Their military may be big, but they have the worst camo and equipment I've ever seen from any "first" world nation.

[MaDeuce]

U.S. Army ACU was just as bad, and they spent like $4 billion implementing that pattern just to ditch it. You had to roll around on the ground in your environment before stepping off.

I never understood naval camo. The only reason you would be in dark blue water is if you went overboard, the last thing you would want is to not be seen, and if you're assaulting from shallow water your intent is to be fighting on land... it's as silly as an air force having sky blue camos...

[vikus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af MaDeuce:

U.S. Army ACU was just as bad, and they spent like $4 billion implementing that pattern just to ditch it. You had to roll around on the ground in your environment before stepping off.

Yes but even then the camo was at leased designed to conceal you in rocky mountain areas with sage brush, which as a person from that area, I can actually confirm that ACU would work great in this environment, just terribly anywhere else. Meanwhile naval camo is literally never helpful, not even in the water.

As for the $4 billion, that's typical government lobbying and spending, OCP probably costed just as much if not more however it was literally just copied from multicam. Probably for the best though considering how great OCP is imo.

[TardWrangler]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Marsy:

Oprindeligt skrevet af MaDeuce:

U.S. Army ACU was just as bad, and they spent like $4 billion implementing that pattern just to ditch it. You had to roll around on the ground in your environment before stepping off.

Yes but even then the camo was at leased designed to conceal you in rocky mountain areas with sage brush, which as a person from that area, I can actually confirm that ACU would work great in this environment, just terribly anywhere else. Meanwhile naval camo is literally never helpful, not even in the water.

As for the $4 billion, that's typical government lobbying and spending, OCP probably costed just as much if not more however it was literally just copied from multicam. Probably for the best though considering how great OCP is imo.

No the camouflage design was actually bad, not the color. camouflage is meant to break up the visual shape of your body and blend it into the surrounding environment. The way the pattern itself was designed actually did the opposite and outlined your body like a 3D movie.

Ukrainian m14 digital pattern is basically UCP "done right", where it is the same colors but the pattern breaks up your shape

[vikus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af TardWrangler:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Marsy:

Yes but even then the camo was at leased designed to conceal you in rocky mountain areas with sage brush, which as a person from that area, I can actually confirm that ACU would work great in this environment, just terribly anywhere else. Meanwhile naval camo is literally never helpful, not even in the water.

As for the $4 billion, that's typical government lobbying and spending, OCP probably costed just as much if not more however it was literally just copied from multicam. Probably for the best though considering how great OCP is imo.

No the camouflage design was actually bad, not the color. camouflage is mean to break up the visual shape of your body and blend it into the surrounding environment. The way the pattern was designed actually did the opposite and made your body stand out like a 3D movie.

Perhaps that's true but considering this Chinese camo debate is more about the bright blue color than anything, I just assumed we were talking in color terms. I can see your point from that angle, and I do agree, UCP is a terrible camo pattern, definitely should've never been adopted on a branch wide scale.

[Epicness]

Oprindeligt skrevet af BeerCan楚云飞:

之所以是蓝色迷彩，是因这个中国海军陆战队主要任务是在滩头开辟通路引导陆军登陆，没有在陆地纵深作战的需求。兄弟们我说的对吗？

Correct, PLAMC units are designed as spearhead formations, breaking enemy lines so PLA amphibious formations and regulars can move in. Still a camo that is only situationally useful on the beach and nowhere else is impracticable at best. These troops aren't going to disappear when PLA units arrive and will likely keep fighting and therefore need proper land camo. Even if they bring proper land camo in their bags, it will just complicate logistics and create situations where units are unable to change due to being in high-intensity combat.

[Epicness]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Marsy:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Meow wow:

This is standard issue for PLA. In all honesty RU should go through a nerf removing all vehicles and any "tech" equipment and just copy the insurgent loadouts

True, China has a history of being super idiotic with pretty much all of their military decisions. Their military may be big, but they have the worst camo and equipment I've ever seen from any "first" world nation.

PLAMC camo reminds me of the old US navy camo that only served to make rescuing overboard crewmembers painful. (you could even say they copied it without even thinking)

Faction should be balanced in other ways especially with the unique weapons, perhaps giving grenadier kits a QBU-11 long range grenade launcher and/or QBZ-03 rifles with sights. Maybe using rifle grenades aswell which are also still produced by china.

[BRlCKSHlTHOUSE]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Epicness:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Marsy:

True, China has a history of being super idiotic with pretty much all of their military decisions. Their military may be big, but they have the worst camo and equipment I've ever seen from any "first" world nation.

PLAMC camo reminds me of the old US navy camo that only served to make rescuing overboard crewmembers painful. (you could even say they copied it without even thinking)

Faction should be balanced in other ways especially with the unique weapons, perhaps giving grenadier kits a QBU-11 long range grenade launcher and/or QBZ-03 rifles with sights. Maybe using rifle grenades aswell which are also still produced by china.

Faction shouldn't have been added, but I guess the CCP via Tencent wanted their boys in the game. Well here they are and they're a joke.