Squad
K1ng 2022년 10월 1일 오후 12시 52분
Bad Fps, decent pc
GTX 1080
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB ram

I'm guessing its the cpu, and tips?
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Psycha 2022년 10월 1일 오후 8시 59분 
Mainly cpu.. Had a R5 2600 before I got a I7-11700k. Much better. RTX 2060 as well which is a bit better than a 1080.
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂ 2022년 10월 2일 오전 2시 16분 
Insanity님이 먼저 게시:
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Resolution Scale: 100 -->120
Support GPu Occlusion: Yes
Geting around 60 Hz with
FreeSynq enabled,
Dynamic MeshQuality: Medium, --->high
Texture Quality: High,
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
Shadows: Medium --> low
AA Quality set to High, AA Samples: 4,
disabled Blur, Bloom and other garbage,
Ambient Occlusion: Low, ----> high
Particle Quality: Medium, ---> high
Post Processing Quality: Medium, ----> low.
Screen Sharpening 0 -----> 30%

not tesslasation cost to many power


thats how i play with gtx 1080 oc power
shadow low will give you 5-10 fps more.
set shadows to low give you better min fps. because impact to the cpu .


i think you will go from 1600x 35 fps min, to 5600x 55 fps min.
with 200doller more you will get 5800x 3d min 75 fps but then you gpu will be on 100% loading.
i only wood get to the 5800x 3d if you mainbord can go pcie 4.0. then you can update in 2-3 years only gpu and do not need to update cpu agen.


ps. decent pc = you cpu its from 2017 was the low end cpu. my i7 4790k from year 2014 have same performance then your cpu. you play with 8.5 year old hardware.
How much performance gain do you get with gpu occlusion?


with this settings the gtx 1080 gpu can allways have +60 fps. the limit of my cpu i7 4790k / R 5 1600x its that the cpu make fps drops to 40 fps. why i recomend this settings. res sacale 120 give more sharpen image better looking in 1080p.
ther other settings on high not limit the gpu. the settings on low give you more min fps because helps the cpu.
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♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂ 2022년 10월 2일 오전 2시 21분 
green님이 먼저 게시:
K1ng님이 먼저 게시:
GTX 1080
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB ram

I'm guessing its the cpu, and tips?

try these optimized for good looks and performance. set audio quality to low. if its still bad disable tesselation, contact shadows and screen space ao. set shadow and ao quality to medium. dynamic mesh quality low and enable low quality environment. you can also try to run the game with -dx12 launch parameter. theoretically your hardware should be capable enough to run the game with high quality preset provided your bios and os are optimally configured. be aware that there are bugs currently that can reduce performance by up 50% or more.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191071
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191087
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191097

set audio quality to low-> no impact. no better fps.

disable tesselation--> cost performance and bring no better look. yes disable

contact shadows and screen space ao. set shadow and ao quality to medium.
-->cost 5-10fps min. do not do that. set shadows to low.

you can also try to run the game with -dx12 launch parameter --> brings nothink, not with gtx 1080. newer gpus can try it.

theoretically your hardware should be capable enough to run the game with high quality preset provided your bios and os are optimally configured. be aware that there are bugs currently that can reduce performance by up 50% or more.
--> wrong its to slow cpu. drops to 40 fps are normal.
same with games like bf 2042 drops to 40 fps. CP 2044 drops to 45 fps With this old cpus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpOErkBzOx0 time:6 min =drops to 40 fps with gpu only loading 50% because of cpu limit.

ps, in your picture you use motion blur :D
your tips are not worth anything
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K1ng 2022년 10월 2일 오전 4시 42분 
I think I'll avoid the game for now until I get my cpu sorted or until they fix the FPS
izsurucu 2022년 10월 2일 오전 6시 38분 
i7 12700, ASUS TUF RTX 3080 Ti, 32GB DDR4 RAM and running the game on a Samsung SSD. It's not different on my side, and definitely not your PC. Some maps are decently optimized, some are badly.
bl1tz 2022년 10월 2일 오전 11시 43분 
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
green님이 먼저 게시:

try these optimized for good looks and performance. set audio quality to low. if its still bad disable tesselation, contact shadows and screen space ao. set shadow and ao quality to medium. dynamic mesh quality low and enable low quality environment. you can also try to run the game with -dx12 launch parameter. theoretically your hardware should be capable enough to run the game with high quality preset provided your bios and os are optimally configured. be aware that there are bugs currently that can reduce performance by up 50% or more.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191071
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191087
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2870191097

set audio quality to low-> no impact. no better fps.

disable tesselation--> cost performance and bring no better look. yes disable

contact shadows and screen space ao. set shadow and ao quality to medium.
-->cost 5-10fps min. do not do that. set shadows to low.

you can also try to run the game with -dx12 launch parameter --> brings nothink, not with gtx 1080. newer gpus can try it.

theoretically your hardware should be capable enough to run the game with high quality preset provided your bios and os are optimally configured. be aware that there are bugs currently that can reduce performance by up 50% or more.
--> wrong its to slow cpu. drops to 40 fps are normal.
same with games like bf 2042 drops to 40 fps. CP 2044 drops to 45 fps With this old cpus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpOErkBzOx0 time:6 min =drops to 40 fps with gpu only loading 50% because of cpu limit.

ps, in your picture you use motion blur :D
your tips are not worth anything

dont come after me please with your poor english. neither you understand what youre talking about nor what i said. your settings simply make the game look like crap and do nothing to the fps. now youre mad because youre running a ddr3 system and recommed people upgrades for stuff that only helps to burn more power on the electricity bill when the majority of threads clearly show whats up with that. dx12 and low quality sounds reduce load on the cpu. dx12 and vulkan were introduced especially to help with old cpus and not new gpus. the majority of squads graphic settings are gpu intensive. actually the game is mainly gpu bound and not the other way around. the drops in squad and bf2042 are because those games have severe bugs and its not because the hardware is too bad to run the game. so you dont make any sense at all. and if you come here to attack others personally because you are jelly instead of talking on the issue dont come here at all.
[REDACTED] 2022년 10월 2일 오후 12시 03분 
a 5800x3d is the better choice
swafellon 2022년 10월 2일 오후 12시 32분 
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Resolution Scale: 100 -->120
Support GPu Occlusion: Yes
Geting around 60 Hz with
FreeSynq enabled,
Dynamic MeshQuality: Medium, --->high
Texture Quality: High,
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
Shadows: Medium --> low
AA Quality set to High, AA Samples: 4,
disabled Blur, Bloom and other garbage,
Ambient Occlusion: Low, ----> high
Particle Quality: Medium, ---> high
Post Processing Quality: Medium, ----> low.
Screen Sharpening 0 -----> 30%

not tesslasation cost to many power


thats how i play with gtx 1080 oc power
shadow low will give you 5-10 fps more.
set shadows to low give you better min fps. because impact to the cpu .


i think you will go from 1600x 35 fps min, to 5600x 55 fps min.
with 200doller more you will get 5800x 3d min 75 fps but then you gpu will be on 100% loading.
i only wood get to the 5800x 3d if you mainbord can go pcie 4.0. then you can update in 2-3 years only gpu and do not need to update cpu agen.


ps. decent pc = you cpu its from 2017 was the low end cpu. my i7 4790k from year 2014 have same performance then your cpu. you play with 8.5 year old hardware.
I only have a nVidia 970 as my GPU, so quite old now. But I have the same CPU as you and I gotta say it still holds up really quite well for most games. And I think its what is saving my performance in Squad so that I can run it at least half way decent. Now that I am closer to finding the ideal setting for me I get a consisten 45-60 FPS with no drops or terrible stutters like I have. So yea
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂ 2022년 10월 2일 오후 12시 45분 
your settings simply make the game look like crap and do nothing to the fps.
set shadow to low and post processing give 5-10 fps more. the question was: Bad Fps not bad look. but yea motion blur looks great in MP.
i am never in gpu limit. only loading max 80% why i am in cpu limit.

now youre mad because youre running a ddr3 system and recommed people upgrades for stuff that only helps to burn more power on the electricity bill when the majority of threads clearly show whats up with that.
better cpu and you have all the time +80 fps look video r 5800x 3D with 50 watt.
ddr3 ore ddr4 timings important for gaming. 2200 mghz: cl 10 =220
3600mghz: cl16 =225 more important are yes mghz . but timings alsow imoprtant for gaming. same with ddr 5 it will only give perfomance if you have fast mghz and low latenz. why slow ddr5 are slower then fast ddr 4. ;)

dx12 and low quality sounds reduce load on the cpu. dx12 and vulkan were introduced especially to help with old cpus and not new gpus.
maby but it have no impact to r 1600, low sound only helt with the old AMD FX-8...


the majority of squads graphic settings are gpu intensive. actually the game is mainly gpu bound and not the other way around.
such statements make me toxic. when people talk garbage.
you say in one sentence the graphics settings have mainly influence on the graphics card who would have thought. and then you think the graphics card would be to blame for low fps.
explain to me why you do not get more or less fps when you change the graphics settings that mainly demand the gpu...


the drops in squad and bf2042 are because those games have severe bugs and its not because the hardware is too bad to run the game.
you are right. all people play bf 2042 with 50 fps max because of server bugs :D :D :D
and with r 5800x 3D you will not have dobble the fps in squad. from 4790k ore r1600x updatet.

so you dont make any sense at all. and if you come here to attack others personally because you are jelly instead of talking on the issue dont come here at all.
talk no garbage and i am a nice guy :)
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bl1tz 2022년 10월 2일 오후 12시 56분 
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
your settings simply make the game look like crap and do nothing to the fps.
set shadow to low and post processing give 5-10 fps more. to my setup.
i am never in gpu limit. only loading max 80% why i am in cpu limit.

now youre mad because youre running a ddr3 system and recommed people upgrades for stuff that only helps to burn more power on the electricity bill when the majority of threads clearly show whats up with that.
better cpu and you have all the time +80 fps look video r 5800x 3D with 50 watt.
ddr3 ore ddr4 timings important for gaming. 2200 mghz: cl 10 =220
3600mghz: cl16 =225 more important are yes mghz . but timings alsow imoprtant for gaming. same with ddr 5 it will only give perfomance if you have fast mghz and low latenz.

dx12 and low quality sounds reduce load on the cpu. dx12 and vulkan were introduced especially to help with old cpus and not new gpus.
maby but it have no impact to r 1600 low sound only helt with the old AMD FX-8...


the majority of squads graphic settings are gpu intensive. actually the game is mainly gpu bound and not the other way around.
such statements make me toxic. when people talk garbage.
you say in one sentence the graphics settings have mainly influence on the graphics card who would have thought. and then you think the graphics card would be to blame for low fps.
explain to me why you do not get more or less fps when you change the graphics settings that mainly demand the gpu...


the drops in squad and bf2042 are because those games have severe bugs and its not because the hardware is too bad to run the game.
you are right. all people play bf 2042 with 50 fps max because of server bugs :D :D :D
and with r 5800x 3D you will not have dobble the fps in squad. from 4790k ore r1600x.

so you dont make any sense at all. and if you come here to attack others personally because you are jelly instead of talking on the issue dont come here at all.
talk no garbage.

you are toxic by nature and not nice at all. get a grip or get lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8K2yc11eC4
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♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂ 2022년 10월 2일 오후 1시 02분 
green님이 먼저 게시:
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
your

you are toxic by nature and not nice at all. get a grip or get lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8K2yc11eC4

what you want to explane with the video?

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mitooz:
How much perf can i expect with this cpu upgrade. 6900xt 1440p. x3d worth it ?

I switched from a 3700X to a 5800X3D. The performance gain is huge - in almost every game. In another discussion regarding Squad I wrote:

"There are not many maps where the performance drops significantly. On a few maps my average FPS can go down to ~110. On most maps, however, I play with rather stable ~130-138 FPS (138 = my cap with Ultra Low Latency on). The 5800X3D is a great CPU for gaming. Almost everything maxed out, only shadows on high, post-processing on low (I do not like it), and tessellation off (causing performance issues). 1440p @ 144Hz, RTX 3070, 32 GB RAM, DX11."
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♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂ 2022년 10월 2일 오후 2시 26분 
swafellon님이 먼저 게시:
♥♥ZIPO♥♥ ♂님이 먼저 게시:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Resolution Scale: 100 -->120
Support GPu Occlusion: Yes
Geting around 60 Hz with
FreeSynq enabled,
Dynamic MeshQuality: Medium, --->high
Texture Quality: High,
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
Shadows: Medium --> low
AA Quality set to High, AA Samples: 4,
disabled Blur, Bloom and other garbage,
Ambient Occlusion: Low, ----> high
Particle Quality: Medium, ---> high
Post Processing Quality: Medium, ----> low.
Screen Sharpening 0 -----> 30%

not tesslasation cost to many power


thats how i play with gtx 1080 oc power
shadow low will give you 5-10 fps more.
set shadows to low give you better min fps. because impact to the cpu .


i think you will go from 1600x 35 fps min, to 5600x 55 fps min.
with 200doller more you will get 5800x 3d min 75 fps but then you gpu will be on 100% loading.
i only wood get to the 5800x 3d if you mainbord can go pcie 4.0. then you can update in 2-3 years only gpu and do not need to update cpu agen.


ps. decent pc = you cpu its from 2017 was the low end cpu. my i7 4790k from year 2014 have same performance then your cpu. you play with 8.5 year old hardware.
I only have a nVidia 970 as my GPU, so quite old now. But I have the same CPU as you and I gotta say it still holds up really quite well for most games. And I think its what is saving my performance in Squad so that I can run it at least half way decent. Now that I am closer to finding the ideal setting for me I get a consisten 45-60 FPS with no drops or terrible stutters like I have. So yea

:) yes i play 1600h squad with this cpu :) but next year i will update. right now monitor 1080p only can do 60 fps. and bf 2042 its boring why i not update jet.
45-60 FPS i alsow have.
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Madara 2022년 10월 2일 오후 10시 53분 
your pc istn decent anymore man.
K1ng 2022년 10월 3일 오전 3시 48분 
Madara님이 먼저 게시:
your pc istn decent anymore man.
Don't make me laugh bro, just because you have nearly 300 hours on the game doesn't mean you can defend it even though you are wrong ahaha, this pc can run cyberpunk at decent settings with playable FPS, and run much better looking games at more fps, but cant run squad? right. The only non decent thing about the pc is the cpu yet that still holds up in every game I play
izsurucu 2022년 10월 3일 오전 4시 41분 
K1ng님이 먼저 게시:
Madara님이 먼저 게시:
your pc istn decent anymore man.
Don't make me laugh bro, just because you have nearly 300 hours on the game doesn't mean you can defend it even though you are wrong ahaha, this pc can run cyberpunk at decent settings with playable FPS, and run much better looking games at more fps, but cant run squad? right. The only non decent thing about the pc is the cpu yet that still holds up in every game I play

Your CPU isn't enough for Squad. The game has optimization issues, and the majority of maps are very difficult to render for most CPUs. It's not because your CPU is garbage, it's because there are just way too many elements to render. And when you combine this with active players (100 player servers and extreme combat zones), the CPU fails to perform decent under extreme stress. I played this game with i5 4460 had encountered extremely difficult situations. My fps dipped below 10 whenever an APC or two rolled up into a cap zone. There were moments where I couldn't even react to the enemy because of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ performance. There were times where I had 60-80 FPS, and there were times where I had 15-20 FPS. I totally understand you.


If you want to play this game without encountering any issues, you have to buy the best hardware on the market. It's very obvious that they are not going to optimize the game. They are not even upgrading their game engine to the latest version.

If you don't want to spend a fortune just to play this game, all I can advise is putting some of the pressure on your GPU. Crank up the graphics (not all of them, just some of them) and let it handle the process along with your CPU. Also, try to play the game on fullscreen only. And also, Discord used to cause trouble for my old CPU, so If you aren't playing with your friends, consider closing it.
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