No point-shooting? That is unrealistic.

[RandalMcdaniel]

In real life soldiers are trained in point shooting, this is also used in speed shooting competitions. It is when you shoot without looking down the iron sights. humans (soldiers even more-so) have a surprising ability to hit targets accurately without the use of iron sights.

But games like this and rising storm vietnam 100% absolutely do not allow for this. And i find that unrealistic. Their attempt to be more realistic has attempted in a system that is actually far less realistic. You simply always have to use your iron sights to get kills in these games. And thats not how warfare works.

Its easier to aim in real life and hit targets with a rifle than it is in video games. Thats just a fact. So the least you can do is lock the weapon to the center of the screen so we can point-shoot with at least some degree of accuracy. So in a sad way i actually find call of duty more realistic in that regard

sadly i uninstalled squad pretty much instantly when i saw that the guns wave around the screen like an unsecured banana. It's just not realistic. Soldiers have a center point with their body/mind/rifle. We need a centerpoint in shooters for them to be realistic.

You shouldnt have to ALWAYS use your iron sights. Thats just not realistic.

People just automatically see how the gun isnt fixed to the center and say "oh wow this is realistic" but is it? What game can more accurately represent how a soldier can move and shoot in real life? Sadly i believe it is cod.

I tried to aim at a doorknob while indoors (without using iron sights) and my bullet hit the ceiling. In real life i would be able to hit that doorknob without iron sights with no trouble at all. So is this game realistic?

[Dont-ask-me-what-Im-shooting-at]

wtf is this rambling

[Zoidberg]

Rising storm vietnam never meant to be a realism game.

[Sekij]

Escape from Tarkov is like the only "realistic" game that has Point shooting.

[?]

idk? works fine for me. when I'm room clearing with a kit that has an M150 or 1p78 for example, I can just fire from the hip and chances are if they're less than 5m away they're going to die. this game isn't meant to be 200% realistic either. if people want the most realistic warzone experience ever featuring eating MREs, sleeping in a hole and having your weapons misfire you could always sign up for the military. this game's a balance between your more arcadey tactical shooters and stuff like arma.

[RandalMcdaniel]

Yeah but you cant fire from the hip accurately and consistently in squad... But you can in real life. And you can ALMOST do it in video games with a deadlocked center.

But in a game with no deadlocked center? Then there is no ability to emulate a humans center of focus

deadlocked centers are just a necessary evil in all shooter games. That loose uncontrollable weapon thing is like adding a bit of that game "surgeon simulator" to shooters. It just doesn't work. It makes it feel like the soldier has dumb fumbling hands

If going for realism in this area, why not also make each soldiers legs operate independently of eachother? (this is sarcasm) With each leg moving forward with a different key? Because we all know that it is impossible to walk perfectly 100% forward in a straight line.


Id love to play this game otherwise. I just can't play shooters without a fixed centerpoint. They feel ridiculous to me

[SomeKorean]

just use hip fire

[Urkson]

I was a soldier and I did not have training in point shooting

[Cynical Jester]

What is this post?

Just join the military dude good God.

I wasn't trained in point shooting but I'm a medic and even then I've not heard 11B guys being trained like that. Maybe if they go to MOUT but that's only a few hundred at a time. Special Forces are the only ones I know of that are trained in point shooting. It's worthless unless the target is close quarters.

If this game was 100% realistic you'd complain then, too.

Most of the time on patrol, unless you're going through urban terrain, your gun won't even be shouldered or at the hip. It will lay across your body left/right or right/left, depending on the shooters dominant hand, with a shoulder harness and the muzzle pointing at the ground so you don't sweep friendlies.

You've played too much CoD my guy.

[mans got drip✅]

I gota disagree on Rising Storm 2. Maybe guns like the PPSH but rifles on semi auto are easy af to hipfire.

[EmperorVolo]

Messaggio originale di Urkson:

I was a soldier and I did not have training in point shooting

I'm pretty sure it'd get you a rifle but to the helmet for wasting bullets.

This is what point shooting looks like in the US Army, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/US_Navy_080910-N-0373Q-070_Petty_Officer_1st_Class_Jason_Null%2C_assigned_to_Explosive_Ordnance_Disposal_Mobile_Unit_%28EOD_MU%29_12_practices_reflexive_firing_during_a_periodic_weapons_assessment.jpg

The US Army isn't taught point fire their taught reflexive firing. So OP has no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue what he's even talking about.

Point aim is typically taught for pistols.

[osheamat]

get ACOG, profit

[EmperorVolo]

I just tried it the first shot is like dead center of the screen. I'm new to the game but it appears to be fairly easily done.

You can put a piece of tape in the middle of your screen if you need help in your point to shoot.

[OVKHuman]

#1 hip firing is actually as ♥♥♥♥ in this game, #2 you are expecting a video game to be able to simulate your senses of shooting

[CPTmoonl1ght]

practice hipfiring i do it all the time and accuratly kill witthin 50m

[Frenchy56]

Point shooting was taught in the US Army. In the 1940's, probably.