Squad
nova 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 1:53
Why Squad?
I have been catching up on my backlog of games and this is actually one of the first games I ever seem to have bought on Steam somehow. I did the tutorial training course and hopped into a match but the framerate was abysmal. I somehow managed to get it locked to 60 but now I run into issues with screen tearing.

Regardless, I am wondering what the community think is the draw to this game. I have many games I could be playing and thought I would ask the community what it is that makes this game stand out from the rest. I played a match and wasn't incredibly impressed because I have played a lot of similar games but is there something unique or interesting that I should keep playing and see what I am missing?

Don't get me wrong the game seems solid, I am just saying that there are a lot of games I could be playing and I don't want to put this back on the shelf if there is something big that i am missing.
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nova 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 2:29 
引用自 Aegmar
Maybe you didn't get into any functional Squads ? I mean, what other game is there with the same amount of regular communication between mostly random players ?
That is what I was thinking when I played, is that there seems to be more of a focus on VOIP. Holdfast also has quite a bit of the same kind of communication as well but besides that yeah it seems to be on its own.
Dark Messiah 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 2:35 
引用自 Nova
I played a match and wasn't incredibly impressed because I have played a lot of similar games


I really want to know more about those "many similiar games" you played. Can you name a few?
nova 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 2:59 
引用自 Dark Messiah
引用自 Nova
I played a match and wasn't incredibly impressed because I have played a lot of similar games


I really want to know more about those "many similiar games" you played. Can you name a few?

Large scale military themed multiplayer first-person shooters with 64+ player servers and vehicles where you capture objectives until you run out of tickets have been around for like 20 years. Best examples being the entire Battlefield series and the Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising game from years back.

Military themed games are a dime a dozen and would be silly to try to list all of those I have played. Large scale MMOFPS games are a bit rarer but have been around since Battlefield 1942. If you expand the scope into other similar genres you have games like Battlefront II and Unreal Tournament 3, games where you compete between two teams to capture relay points and then assault and capture the main base with vehicles, etc. This is the general gameplay of games like Planetside 2 as well.

Obviously this game is trying to be more like a modern military sim but the general gameplay of "pick a class, choose a spawn point, jump into vehicle, drive to flag, kill enemies, take over flag, move to next flag) is not novel or new in the least bit.

That being said this game may be one of the best in its genre but its nothing that I haven't seen before so I wouldn't know.
Dark Messiah 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 3:29 
引用自 Nova
Military themed games are a dime a dozen and would be silly to try to list all of those I have played.

There are only a handful of other games that are comparable to Sqaud, namely Hell Let loose, Verdun, Post Scriptum and Beyond the Wire. Even large scales military shooters are pretty rare, there is only Battlefield these days.

Anyway, considering the fact that you think, or expect the game to be ""pick a class, choose a spawn point, jump into vehicle, drive to flag, kill enemies, take over flag, move to next flag) ." shows that this game and the likes are definitely not for you. It is actually something you have not seen before. It is pretty niche and not many coming from other more casual games do not like it and find it boring.
Dexter 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 3:39 
The tactics and strategy - that's what you play it for. This game is nothing like Battlefield or Planetside or Halo or CoD or really any other game simply because of the tactics and strategy involved in Squad. It's the perfect balance between something as hardcore as Arma and something more casual like Battlefield 2 (they're about the two closest analogies I can think of in gaming history). I've been playing these types of team-based, high player count, multiplayer FPS games since Battlefield 1942 and I can safely say Squad is the best of them.

To be honest, if you're just looking at this game as "a modern military shooter", your conception of gaming as a whole is pretty shallow. Hell Let Loose and Battlefield V are both "World War 2 multiplayer shooters" but they could not be more different from each other. I hated what I played of Battlefield V but I enjoyed most of what I played in Hell Let Loose. Gameplay-wise, they are completely different despite both being World War 2 themed, team-based, high player count, multiplayer FPS games. Sometimes you have to look beyond the superficial similarities.
killertowfoo 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 5:06 
Initially (pre introduction of MBTs), the draw was the realistic squad-level infantry tactics, player-controlled logistics and defense building, solid ingame communication system, community focused on team cohesion, and a decent trainer on effective leadership.

I've yet to play a game that provided all of those attributes as effective as the earlier versions of this game embraced.

The developers have since focused primarily on adding more content as the most vocal members of the community tend to cry about content while also being less appreciative of what makes games appealing, which is gameplay.

This would be a weird time to start playing this game, as it's essentially no longer "Squad" but more of more punishing BF with some player-built defenses and bigger maps thrown in "BF:Authentic".
Chungal Grease 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 5:35 
引用自 Nova
Don't get me wrong the game seems solid, I am just saying that there are a lot of games I could be playing and I don't want to put this back on the shelf if there is something big that i am missing.

Unfortunately you did in fact miss something big. It was called v9 and OPFL.
nova 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 2:35 
How does it compare to Arma 3?
Maki Nishikino 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 3:38 
引用自 Nova
How does it compare to Arma 3?

It doesn’t, they’re apples and oranges.
Psycha 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 2:02 
引用自 Nova
How does it compare to Arma 3?

It'd help also if you list specs.

Plus clearing your cache helps alot for performance.
Gog 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 2:39 
引用自 Nova
Regardless, I am wondering what the community think is the draw to this game. I have many games I could be playing and thought I would ask the community what it is that makes this game stand out from the rest. I played a match and wasn't incredibly impressed because I have played a lot of similar games but is there something unique or interesting that I should keep playing and see what I am missing?

The draw is the RTS stuff along with the camaraderie you can have with your Squad.

RTS as in, having the resource management, along with the control over were you build stuff. Not just were your teams Spawns, but being able to build defenses and whatnot.

The game is almost a FPS/RTS hybrid.
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Dexter 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 5:01 
引用自 Crafty
The draw is the RTS stuff along with the camaraderie you can have with your Squad.

This is a big plus for me too. Having players work so closely together to achieve (often complex) objectives gives a good sense of camaraderie. That and the community is very good in my opinion. I'd heard bad things about Squad - that the players were unwelcoming and unfriendly, but that was not my experience at all. From the first round I ever played until now, the community was the exact opposite of what I expected. Most people are more than willing to lend a hand to new players and the community does not take itself too seriously. It's an eclectic mix of players from goofy guys, eccentric military nuts, women (who almost exclusively play medic in my experience), children, Arabs, Russians, Israelis, Euros (both East and West), Americans and probably Martians too.
Ronin 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 10:19 
Make sure you use a mic, try to get a squad that also uses mics and a vocal squad leader that actually has a plan or at least gives you basic instructions. Stick with the squad and play it immersively and you'll have a great time. Another game that has slower paced combat but less walking/running around huge empty spaces (although there are some and you need to do this at the start) is HLL. It's like squad but set in WW2. They are both very similiar but both have pros and cons. They are similar enough in gameplay style/mechanics that it's really down to a era preference
nova 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 6:28 
引用自 Yvng Hibachi
You just shouldn't play. It seems you have literally no idea what the game is about and your comments on it are kinda insulting. You can't ask people to give you a reason to play then at the same time belittle the game by comparing it to other games with guns in them. You'll be lucky to get even 5 kills in a single hour in a half long game, idk what multitude of games you're playing where this is the case.

The draw of the game is the advanced communication and teamwork on a large scale without having to dedicate the time it would take to organize such things in a game like ARMA. This is not unreal tournament....this is not battlefield. You have an insane misconception about this game and to think you just randomly bought it with no research whatsoever tells me that you just impulsive af and you come off as snobby by trying to break down a game you know nothing about to it's basics. "pick a class, choose a spawn point, jump into vehicle, drive to flag, kill enemies, take over flag, move to next flag)" ffs, it's like you're just trolling.

When you remove the pretentious elitism you realize that a ton of games have the exact same gameplay loop just with different presentations and audiences. Sorry that isn't obvious to you.

I also didn't buy the game. I got it as part of Humble Bundle from 2019.
最后由 nova 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 6:50
C O O L (已封禁) 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 7:43 
引用自 Yvng Hibachi
Wall of text crying at OP
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最后由 C O O L 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 7:43
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