Whats with all the automatic rifleman and machine gunners?

[Bobr]

90% of them aren't even using the class in a defensive manner, they're running around and clearing buildings with it.

Do new players not realize that the normal rifleman class can also go full auto, and also gets an ammo bag, possibly a scope, and grenades?

The worst part is they're taking these classes instead of anti tank or grenadier so taking objectives or fighting armor is nearly impossible.

If you're a squad leader watch out for noobs using these roles.

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by bOBR:

90% of them aren't even using the class in a defensive manner, they're running around and clearing buildings with it.

Do new players not realize that the normal rifleman class can also go full auto, and also gets an ammo bag, possibly a scope, and grenades?

The worst part is they're taking these classes instead of anti tank or grenadier so taking objectives or fighting armor is nearly impossible.

If you're a squad leader watch out for noobs using these roles.

Not true, not all factions have full auto option on the scoped rifleman kit.

[Bobr]

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Originally posted by bOBR:

90% of them aren't even using the class in a defensive manner, they're running around and clearing buildings with it.

Do new players not realize that the normal rifleman class can also go full auto, and also gets an ammo bag, possibly a scope, and grenades?

The worst part is they're taking these classes instead of anti tank or grenadier so taking objectives or fighting armor is nearly impossible.

If you're a squad leader watch out for noobs using these roles.

Not true, not all factions have full auto option on the scoped rifleman kit.

Which faction doesn't have full auto on the scoped rifleman class? Cause I just went into the range for each faction and checked and they all had full auto.

[Wright [29th Ret.]]

Something like the M249, RPK, or G3 can be awesome building clearers. I've even used the pkm and pkp to do it in certain situations. I think the problem with the "newer" automatic riflemen we're seeing come in with the update is they just want the biggest gun. Automatic rifleman should be holding a point or providing cover, but these folks see a box mag and think more bullets=more kills. I'm cool with letting most new folks try a kit, but if they don't get it theres nothing wrong with asking them to step down or boot them if needed.

[Linus Mudrocket]

ha ha, big gun go brap.

MGs are suitable for both offence and defence, but I dunno man, the amount of times as SL I tell my MGs "Find yourself a decent position", so they
can cover our advance, or find a roof to overwatch an area or road, only to have them totally ignore it and scream off in the direction of the closest fight. Sometimes I'll even try and give him a rifleman to pair off with to spot with 'noculars and provide the MG some cover from sneaky players, but nope. I have a belt fed MG. I must Rambo.

[Papperskorg]

More dakka, more fun.

[Bobr]

Originally posted by Aegmar:

Originally posted by bOBR:

Which faction doesn't have full auto on the scoped rifleman class? Cause I just went into the range for each faction and checked and they all had full auto.

all Riflemen have full auto

yes I literally just said this

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by bOBR:

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Not true, not all factions have full auto option on the scoped rifleman kit.

Which faction doesn't have full auto on the scoped rifleman class? Cause I just went into the range for each faction and checked and they all had full auto.

Unless they changed it for v1.1 US army scoped rifleman is single or burst only.

[Bobr]

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Originally posted by bOBR:

Which faction doesn't have full auto on the scoped rifleman class? Cause I just went into the range for each faction and checked and they all had full auto.

Unless they changed it for v1.1 US army scoped rifleman is single or burst only.

Oh yeah, but the burst is still great for close quarters, not to mention you can just spam grenades with your ammo bag so it would still be useful for room clearing, which realistically only happens like once per game maybe?

[felixardyansyah]

Originally posted by bOBR:

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Unless they changed it for v1.1 US army scoped rifleman is single or burst only.

Oh yeah, but the burst is still great for close quarters, not to mention you can just spam grenades with your ammo bag so it would still be useful for room clearing, which realistically only happens like once per game maybe?

if you have low ping yes high ping nope

[FD_Stalker]

Originally posted by bOBR:

Oh yeah, but the burst is still great for close quarters, not to mention you can just spam grenades with your ammo bag so it would still be useful for room clearing, which realistically only happens like once per game maybe?

"BuRsT iS gReAt" you mean when they have problem beating insurgent village fools in CQC...

[oldschool]

i hate burst never use it.... but if the us had full auto with optics on rifleman it would make the gun even better and its already the best rifle in the game imo

yes i really wish more ar's would do their job and suppress more

[80ft golden ♥♥♥♥'n balls]

Like, I get that suppressing is the real life job of an AR/MG, but in this game, more often than not, the moment I set up at an angle I can cover my squad from, I catch a stray bullet from a marksman or get grenaded the living ♥♥♥♥ out of me.

[JojoTheSlayer]

Automatic rifleman is basically a lighter form of LMG. Be it a SAW or similar with bipod and a larger clip, but not always a weapon that has a barrel that can be used to the extent of a LMG. This notion one can not "room clear" or similar with a SAW or that shock troops dont do it is not accurate. That said, Squad is still a game.

[Bobr]

Originally posted by JojoTheSlayer:

Automatic rifleman is basically a lighter form of LMG. Be it a SAW or similar with bipod and a larger clip, but not always a weapon that has a barrel that can be used to the extent of a LMG. This notion one can not "room clear" or similar with a SAW or that shock troops dont do it is not accurate. That said, Squad is still a game.

Ok thanks for your input on the first part of my argument about why the automatic rifleman shouldn't be used as much, what about the two other, and much more important points I was making?

[oldschool]

Originally posted by Shaving Ryan's Privates:

Like, I get that suppressing is the real life job of an AR/MG, but in this game, more often than not, the moment I set up at an angle I can cover my squad from, I catch a stray bullet from a marksman or get grenaded the living ♥♥♥♥ out of me.

yea its tough to do your job as an AR, especially on small maps

which reinforces the op's point, why not just pick rifleman... your better all around, can move and fight better, have a ton of nades, have tons of bandages, can give your sl a rally, can give your at rockets... you get the idea

not gonna lie though when you have a good ar it makes a riflemans job alot ezier. but alot of AR's are just greedy campers