Too long respawn time.

[Poots]

For one ♥♥♥♥ placed rally, you spawn and die in a few seconds. then have to wait a minute to play? This system is trash when you have a trash squad lead

[K1ller]

So what's your suggestion? Instant respawn times like COD?

[Commando]

Long respawn times simulate reinforcements on the battlefield.

[Salamander]

That's the whole point of the game. It's the differentiating factor between this and COD and Battlefield...dying in Squad and not being able to respawn quickly and having huge maps etc, forces teamwork...it forces Squad Leaders (SL) to do their job and lead with a plan....but also incentives players to do what the SL says becasue it will help the team in the long run.

There is a cost to everything, including death....knowing you can just respawn in 10 secs at a specific point is more like COD or Battlefield....where's the strategy in that...

If I wakeup and feel like a quick combat/who gives a f**k battle then I play Insurgency....IF i decide to go to war with a bunch of people, maybe I dont know....in a strategic battle...a battle where the more advanced guns and vehicles of the opposing side can be stimied by gameplan and strategy then I pick Squad....If like some noobs your looking for RANKING STATS etc...then Squad isn't for you.....

Winning a game... and understanding it was because your squad held a point close to the enemies Main Base for an hour (they bleed tickets)....and understanding that the only reason they held that point is because you did Logistic Runs for them for over an hour non stop actually means something...you drove a f*****g truck around a map you didnt know... while sometimes under enemy fire....No you won't get a medal or free DLC, you wont get a Special Badge or a patch on your shoulder....but as a noob.....the satisfaction of an experienced SL thanking you and telling you well done should be enough.....

This is not a quick free for all...it's a slow progressive attainment of victory...not nice, and sometimes as SL not enjoyable but after a hard fought win overtly satisfying.

Sal

[Smallshot]

Originally posted by Salamander:

That's the whole point of the game. It's the differentiating factor between this and COD and Battlefield...dying in Squad and not being able to respawn quickly and having huge maps etc, forces teamwork...it forces Squad Leaders (SL) to do their job and lead with a plan....but also incentives players to do what the SL says becasue it will help the team in the long run.

There is a cost to everything, including death....knowing you can just respawn in 10 secs at a specific point is more like COD or Battlefield....where's the strategy in that...

If I wakeup and feel like a quick combat/who gives a f**k battle then I play Insurgency....IF i decide to go to war with a bunch of people, maybe I dont know....in a strategic battle...a battle where the more advanced guns and vehicles of the opposing side can be stimied by gameplan and strategy then I pick Squad....If like some noobs your looking for RANKING STATS etc...then Squad isn't for you.....

Winning a game... and understanding it was because your squad held a point close to the enemies Main Base for an hour (they bleed tickets)....and understanding that the only reason they held that point is because you did Logistic Runs for them for over an hour non stop actually means something...you drove a f*****g truck around a map you didnt know... while sometimes under enemy fire....No you won't get a medal or free DLC, you wont get a Special Badge or a patch on your shoulder....but as a noob.....the satisfaction of an experienced SL thanking you and telling you well done should be enough.....

This is not a quick free for all...it's a slow progressive attainment of victory...not nice, and sometimes as SL not enjoyable but after a hard fought win overtly satisfying.

Sal

I agree, but disagree. I think there should be game modes where you only have to wait 20 seconds to respawn. I get that it's a part of the gameplay to simulate reinforcements, that being said I also love the gunplay and combat in this game, but I absolutely wish there was a more fast paced mode where everyone is going at it. Another thing is that the Galactic Contention mod on here is as close to Star Wars Battlefront 3 as it'll get and it is a bit of a shame that for one I do wish it were on another game like Battlefield or CoD, two there are no bots for me to play around on a private match, and three I have other things to do than wait 80 seconds to spawn every time I ♥♥♥♥ up. 25 seconds is basically the limit for me when it comes to waiting for respawning and I'm not saying Squad is wrong for making the spawn times long to simulate reinforcement, but I do want a separate game mode where people really can just go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nuts and cause chaos especially for something like a Star Wars mod. As far as Squad is as a game fundamentally it is truly amazing but freaking agonizing with the amount of patience you have to have.

[RackEmUp187]

Originally posted by AkFumbles:

I have other things to do than wait 80 seconds to spawn every time I ♥♥♥♥ up.

Well then maybe you should be more careful and not ♥♥♥♥ up as much.

Also the habs take less time unless you commit suicide. The timers for the rallies being long is so that it gives your team a chance to all spawn together, bc this is a team game and not a YOU game.

[Robbery]

Spawn times were 30 seconds back in the day and I think that was reasonable. These ones aren't game breaking though just smoker friendly in a sense

[Phil]

Originally posted by Salamander:

That's the whole point of the game. It's the differentiating factor between this and COD and Battlefield...dying in Squad and not being able to respawn quickly and having huge maps etc, forces teamwork...it forces Squad Leaders (SL) to do their job and lead with a plan....but also incentives players to do what the SL says becasue it will help the team in the long run.

There is a cost to everything, including death....knowing you can just respawn in 10 secs at a specific point is more like COD or Battlefield....where's the strategy in that...

If I wakeup and feel like a quick combat/who gives a f**k battle then I play Insurgency....IF i decide to go to war with a bunch of people, maybe I dont know....in a strategic battle...a battle where the more advanced guns and vehicles of the opposing side can be stimied by gameplan and strategy then I pick Squad....If like some noobs your looking for RANKING STATS etc...then Squad isn't for you.....

Winning a game... and understanding it was because your squad held a point close to the enemies Main Base for an hour (they bleed tickets)....and understanding that the only reason they held that point is because you did Logistic Runs for them for over an hour non stop actually means something...you drove a f*****g truck around a map you didnt know... while sometimes under enemy fire....No you won't get a medal or free DLC, you wont get a Special Badge or a patch on your shoulder....but as a noob.....the satisfaction of an experienced SL thanking you and telling you well done should be enough.....

This is not a quick free for all...it's a slow progressive attainment of victory...not nice, and sometimes as SL not enjoyable but after a hard fought win overtly satisfying.

Sal

Well said. +1000

This is what it's all about.

[RackEmUp187]

Originally posted by Robbery:

Spawn times were 30 seconds back in the day and I think that was reasonable. These ones aren't game breaking though just smoker friendly in a sense :deadwhiterat::m9beretta:

I think the reason it increased was because it's now 50 vs 50 and they want people to get a chance to defend their hab. That's also why the rally system requires to be refilled now and the radio has a delay before getting completely destroyed.

[Punished Fish]

Originally posted by RackEmUp187:

Originally posted by Robbery:

Spawn times were 30 seconds back in the day and I think that was reasonable. These ones aren't game breaking though just smoker friendly in a sense :deadwhiterat::m9beretta:

I think the reason it increased was because it's now 50 vs 50 and they want people to get a chance to defend their hab. That's also why the rally system requires to be refilled now and the radio has a delay before getting completely destroyed.

And to prevent one engineer from ramboing his way into your mini-base and blowing it up in a minute.

[Viper217]

Most rounds people avg about 5-10 deaths. If you give up instantly (cause you're impatient and bad) that's at absolute most 10 minutes of waiting to spawn in a ~hour long game. If you wait at least 30s before giving up since you're not gonna spawn faster anyways, that cuts it down to like 5 min a game waiting to spawn max and 5 min giving your team a chance to pick you up and save your ticket.

Use the time you are dead to relay intel to your team, refresh your understanding of the full map situation (avoid task tunnel-vision!), and drink some water/stretch your arms (the rounds are quite long after all). That way you'll be more relaxed and enjoy your time playing more too!

[oldschool]

Respawn timers are fine...
I spend more time waiting to be picked up than I do waiting for respawn

I believe one of the primary reasons for this is to give your life more value(not quite to the scale of eft)

[Sea Base]

Originally posted by Robbery:

Spawn times were 30 seconds back in the day and I think that was reasonable. These ones aren't game breaking though just smoker friendly in a sense :deadwhiterat::m9beretta:

Not in Squad, they were 2 minutes back in the day xD back then death meant something and you would duck when under fire to avoid dieing due to the spawn timer, didnt need suppression mechanics.

[zerokill]

Originally posted by POOTS:

For one ♥♥♥♥ placed rally, you spawn and die in a few seconds. then have to wait a minute to play? This system is trash when you have a trash squad lead

Play Cod or som other Run&Gun-game.

[bammer95]

Rally timers are fine, HAB spawns should probably have about 10 seconds added... the respawn on HABs is a tad quick.