AMD CPU and Squad Performance. Community PSA

[OVKHuman]

There is something that always goes around on this forum. And that is the games terrible performance and problems with AMD CPUs. While some of these are true I want to address that we are greatly exaggerating.

AMD CPUs

This is a common misunderstanding leading to a biased opinion and the passing of false information. It is Important to know that there are 2 Major catagories when it comes to AMD CPUs. They are FX series and the Ryzen series. As for the FX series, it is correct the performance will be pretty bad. I mean these are a meme by now. They cannot run anything really well. I mean just look at the FX 9370, 220W TDP. The exact reason I will not state due to intent of this post. Ryzen series however are significantly better than them and it is NOT fair to group the 2 into the same catagories. If you just google Squad Ryzen Benchmark you will find that a lot of the system with Ryzen perform decently. Of course their single core performance is still not as good as intels (as shown by many reviews and benchmarks along with this totally accurate website http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8350K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3935vs3958) This however does not mean that you should be telling people that Ryzens are bad because they aren't and Ryzen gives customers options that intel CPUs doesn't in the world outside of Squad. It is better that we inform people correctly.

Performance

This is another example of how exaggerated things can be. Obivously this game doesn't run well. Obviously it needs to be optimized. But people are making OPs more scared than they need to be. V10 and V11 optimized the game by a decent bit, and simply put, we are exaggerating the performance problems based on specs. Of course many systems are different but sometimes I feel like we ignore other factors. As an example I want to talk about me.

These are the minimum specs listed on the steam store page

Intel Core i5-2500K CPU
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Geforce GTX 770 or AMD Radeon HD 7870

I will tell you I have a laptop, with a 6700HQ, 16GB of RAM (non OC obviously) and a 960m.

Using the wonderful website again http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2500K/m34954vs619

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-770/m27242vs2174

You can see that my specs are SIGNIFCANTLY (espeically in the GPU) worse than minimum specs yet I run this game on 40-50 fps on all low (except just enough for tournament mode servers and high view distance)

I say this again, but yes Squad performance is bad, and yes it need optimization but I don't think that we need to be that harsh on the game.

[CHIWIWIS]

perfromance is still pretty bad, better than before though. For example I get smoked or morter bomb my FPS just tanks.

[WombleDieHard]

引用自 anthbobo：

perfromance is still pretty bad, better than before though. For example I get smoked or morter bomb my FPS just tanks.

So does mine but I have an I7 chip!

Down to poor optimization in the game!

[SSIXS]

引用自 WombleDieHard：

Down to poor optimization in the game!

To be completely fair it's not really poor optimization, but a lack of optimization. OWI has not begun to focus a priority on optimizing the game yet, because they're still adding the features and content they want to be in the game @ 1.0 release.

Once OWI has that stuff implemented and they're satisfied, then optimization (beyond the QOL things they currently do when performance breaks in an update) will be priority #1.

[Croissant]

FX isn't that bad, it can still run squad at mid although the FX 9000 series is a meme tbf. I use a FX 6350 Black edition, Sapphire Nitro RX460 OC and 16 gb of RAM on a WD harddrive from 2001 and I still get 60 fps with all on mid, with the occasional but rare lag spike when an IED blows something up. I get very playable frames in squad.

[Klav]

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

[Croissant]

引用自 Klavasky：

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

Thats strange, my PC is like mid-low in terms of gaming hardware and mid at 60 is viable. It may have something to do with drivers?

[Maki Nishikino]

引用自 Klavasky：

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

GTX 760 and i7-4790 -> 50-60 fps, high (not max) graphics. That's not normal.

[OVKHuman]

引用自 Klavasky：

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

This what im saying. Its not the game people are just missing something. Prioritize gpu? Heat? Cpu cooler? Driver issues?

[Klav]

引用自 Croissant.exe：

引用自 Klavasky：

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

Thats strange, my PC is like mid-low in terms of gaming hardware and mid at 60 is viable. It may have something to do with drivers?

how can i know ?

[Morethan2Letters]

1080ti and 7700k > High settings, 3440x1440...60-100fps.

[Nossa30]

引用自 Advanced3：

1080ti and 7700k > High settings, 3440x1440...60-100fps.

Basically me except with 4790K. No issues. 60-90 FPS 1440P.

[erdogan18]

I5 4690K OC @ 4.5 GHZ, GTX1060 STRIX OC with 3 fans, 16GB DDR3 @ 1.6GHZ RAM and SAMSUNG 850 EVO. Low end system but I get a solid 80FPS on maximum settings.

[JordyyFPS]

I play around 70/120 FPS with simple specs, the game obviously needs some optimization, but it's more then playable, the only issue is the server optimization, go on the firing range and check FPS there, easily achieve 200+ on lowest settings, and around 100/120 on epic settings.

The moment you go play on a full server though, low or epic settings doesn't seem to make a difference since it pushes out the same FPS.

[TheOnlyRyan]

引用自 Klavasky：

GTX 1050Ti and i5 4460s -> 15-30 fps, low graphics. That's not normal.

That sounds pretty correct. The I5 4460 is slightly worse than the 2500k, especially when you consider the fact the 2500k can be overlocked to nearly 4GHz easily.

As for the 1050ti, even a GTX 770 from 2 generations prior is more powerful than this card.

Add the fact this game uses unreal engine, yeah. Unfortunately it's about right. The game still needs some better optimization though. 1050ti is more of a esport card. Not a mil sim unreal engine 4 card.

[Morethan2Letters]

I would still choose a 1050ti over a 770, especially if its a 2GB 770.