A10 - The worst update?

[Lord Bailey]

Now let me say there is some really cool features like vulting over walls and generally the new ammo types for the BTR ect.

Now my big problem with the game currently is the bugs and the cheats now mind you I don't use the word "cheat" lightly here.

So let me start with the bugs,

Current bugs i've found:

Invisible gun - still can shoot
invisible gun - can't shoot
not being able to move left or right but only forward and backward.
only being able to move while in prone.
bandages not healing other players as a medic even after the animation has gone though.
Ghosting though walls and floors while sitting prone on the ground.
Random "hops" where one minute i'm standing in one spot then next i'm 15 feet away ( not a internet connect problem or a computer problem)
Bi-pod not deploying on walls perveriously able to be deployed on. (same spot mind you)
Invincible Logi truck drivers - Even at point blank unloading a gun right into him he doesn't die.
Ghost characters standing still you can shoot like crazy but don't die. (not sure if cheaters afk or what)
Left hand leaving the weapon or medic bag moving around independant of the weapon or what the other hand is doing.
Update: SL not being able to claim a new vehicle, Time remaining till you can claim a new vehicle -15 seconds and going down.


Cheats... well just do a google search to find out what I mean.
The anti-cheat needs to be improved greatly, I know the devs talk about how the system bans in waves but that's honestly not good enough, We need a new system for the short term and the long term. So both ban by wave and by triggers built into the game it's self.

There is also kind of "soft" cheats where people can remove the grass and even the trees out of their game using special programs to play around with shaders.

[SSIXS]

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

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Cheats... well just do a google search to find out what I mean.
The anti-cheat needs to be improved greatly, I know the devs talk about how the system bans in waves but that's honestly not good enough, We need a new system for the short term and the long term. So both ban by wave and by triggers built into the game it's self.

There is also kind of "soft" cheats where people can remove the grass and even the trees out of their game using special programs to play around with shaders.

True, EAC bans in waves...that's the way it's programmed to work. EAC is also only a 2nd line of defense, the first being server admins. Since all of SQUAD's servers are run by the community (there are no official OWI servers) simply play on servers that have good admins. They'll ban someone from their server immediately.

You don't need a 3rd party program to remove grass n such at a distance, just put the graphics settings on low.

[Lord Bailey]

SSIXS původně napsal:

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

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Cheats... well just do a google search to find out what I mean.
The anti-cheat needs to be improved greatly, I know the devs talk about how the system bans in waves but that's honestly not good enough, We need a new system for the short term and the long term. So both ban by wave and by triggers built into the game it's self.

There is also kind of "soft" cheats where people can remove the grass and even the trees out of their game using special programs to play around with shaders.

True, EAC bans in waves...that's the way it's programmed to work. EAC is also only a 2nd line of defense, the first being server admins. Since all of SQUAD's servers are run by the community (there are no official OWI servers) simply play on servers that have good admins. They'll ban someone from their server immediately.

You don't need a 3rd party program to remove grass n such at a distance, just put the graphics settings on low.

No there is special programs that can completely change how people see the game. Beyond that even with good admins it's hard for an admin to figure out if someone is cheating or not.

I don't think it's insane to ask for more protection.

[SSIXS]

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

No there is special programs that can completely change how people see the game. Beyond that even with good admins it's hard for an admin to figure out if someone is cheating or not.

I don't think it's insane to ask for more protection.

If you're referring to Reshade, it doesn't remove grass, and such...you can do that with the settings in SQUAD itself.

There are players being kicked/banned from SQUAD servers by admins practically every day...so I'd say the admins (overall) are doing a pretty decent job, though some do get a little over-zealous about it.

I personally don't see what more protection SQUAD needs. There's EAC and each server admin. The game is never going to be 100% cheater-free...there's no such thing as an online multiplayer fps game that is.

That said, back when SQUAD first released, sure there were some cheats for awhile, but the population dropped to no more than roughly 2500 players a day...likely not worth the cheat creators putting time into developing and selling for the game.

[BlackLabel]

worst update ? far from it. it adds alot of gameplay Elements that are really nice but obviously Need some polish. The one Change i totaly dont like is the AAS "anti rush" aka "make this ♥♥♥♥ as boring and linear as possible with no valid Options of flanking or somesuch on HUGE ASS MAPS"...worst ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea.#


BUT..enlight me on who cheated you ? How could you tell while you are able to work around the *in your mind* TERRIBLE controls ?

[1412elite]

You obviously weren't here for V7

[BlackLabel]

1412elite původně napsal:

You obviously weren't here for V7

he wasent :P

[Sea Base]

Do a search for Squad cheat on youtube (the people who write cheats make videos to show off so they can sell the cheat). There's nothing recent and very little to suggest that what is available even works.
Programes like reshade can be emulated via the ingame options, and if you dont like that (which is fine) stick to the competition servers that force a certan level of graphic options.

[Lord Bailey]

BlackLabel původně napsal:

worst update ? far from it. it adds alot of gameplay Elements that are really nice but obviously Need some polish. The one Change i totaly dont like is the AAS "anti rush" aka "make this ♥♥♥♥ as boring and linear as possible with no valid Options of flanking or somesuch on HUGE ASS MAPS"...worst ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea.#


BUT..enlight me on who cheated you ? How could you tell while you are able to work around the *in your mind* TERRIBLE controls ?

I didn't say terrible controls, I said the controls sometimes have had bugs in them that won't let me look left or right.

Cheated me? I'm saying go look and search for yourself to see the number of websites out there that are currently right now selling hacks that they say are good.

But I do think the Anti-rush idea is dumb and is something I personally didn't like, I think the more they put the game in a box the less fun it is.


To the other guy, I know there is no such thing as 100% no cheaters but it would be nice to see something maybe more public about it to remind us that the anti-cheat is actually working. In battle field if someone gets caught by the anti-cheat it will tell us in chat.

[WombleDieHard]

This thread is more like the worst thread since V9.

Alpha = Bugs = Loads!

[Spice Marine]

to be completely fair:
I had the feeling in my session yesterday that there was a cheater in the enemy team, but I could be wrong!
It was just weird that bullets hit me from a specific direction without me even showing the slightest part of my body in said direction

[Lord Bailey]

WombleDieHard původně napsal:

This thread is more like the worst thread since V9.

Alpha = Bugs = Loads!

The game came out as early access in 2015, It's 2018 now.

Early access is supposed to be for games nearly completed, not ones working off a dev build which lets face it when I can give you a LIST of problems and then add to it (which I am btw) then that's exactly what it is, A DEV BUILD!

I'm tired of waiting for them to get their stuff together and actually make this game the way they presented it to us. Right now I play this game a LOT but you have to be honest in your heart of hearts that they just haven't stepped up to the plate and GOT IT DONE!

Point and fact! WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER!!!!!! I can find people on youtube who've done some pretty amazing things with mods but the people getting PAID to develope the game can't even get that done.

[BlackLabel]

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

Point and fact! WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER!!!!!! I can find people on youtube who've done some pretty amazing things with mods but the people getting PAID to develope the game can't even get that done.

Your ignorance is palpable.

[WombleDieHard]

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

WombleDieHard původně napsal:

This thread is more like the worst thread since V9.

Alpha = Bugs = Loads!

The game came out as early access in 2015, It's 2018 now.

Early access is supposed to be for games nearly completed, not ones working off a dev build which lets face it when I can give you a LIST of problems and then add to it (which I am btw) then that's exactly what it is, A DEV BUILD!

I'm tired of waiting for them to get their stuff together and actually make this game the way they presented it to us. Right now I play this game a LOT but you have to be honest in your heart of hearts that they just haven't stepped up to the plate and GOT IT DONE!

Point and fact! WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER!!!!!! I can find people on youtube who've done some pretty amazing things with mods but the people getting PAID to develope the game can't even get that done.

Ignore 2015 to Jan 2018 the game has been rewritten so V10 is the actual start in my opinion where the Alpha really begins.

This will sound harsh but this might teach you a lesson and that is Alpha games are destined to be in the realms of never being completed.

Squad will go into Beta by the end of this year in my opinion but then like I said nothing is guaranteed in Alpha development hell.

[Lord Bailey]

BlackLabel původně napsal:

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

Point and fact! WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER!!!!!! I can find people on youtube who've done some pretty amazing things with mods but the people getting PAID to develope the game can't even get that done.

Your ignorance is palpable.

Ok great have a nice day.

[Lord Bailey]

WombleDieHard původně napsal:

Lord Bailey původně napsal:

The game came out as early access in 2015, It's 2018 now.

Early access is supposed to be for games nearly completed, not ones working off a dev build which lets face it when I can give you a LIST of problems and then add to it (which I am btw) then that's exactly what it is, A DEV BUILD!

I'm tired of waiting for them to get their stuff together and actually make this game the way they presented it to us. Right now I play this game a LOT but you have to be honest in your heart of hearts that they just haven't stepped up to the plate and GOT IT DONE!

Point and fact! WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER!!!!!! I can find people on youtube who've done some pretty amazing things with mods but the people getting PAID to develope the game can't even get that done.

Ignore 2015 to Jan 2018 the game has been rewritten so V10 is the actual start in my opinion where the Alpha really begins.

This will sound harsh but this might teach you a lesson and that is Alpha games are destined to be in the realms of never being completed.

Squad will go into Beta by the end of this year in my opinion but then like I said nothing is guaranteed in Alpha development hell.

LOL I like that, Best comment "Alpha Development hell" That about sums it up doesn't it.