People always see me through bushes

[pavey]

Am I the only one who can't see through bushes/walls? Do that many people really turn their graphics to zero just to get an advantage? It's pathetic. I'm not taking optimisation as an excuse, I have a trash setup and this game runs smooth 90 avg all the time

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by pavey:

Am I the only one who can't see through bushes/walls? Do that many people really turn their graphics to zero just to get an advantage? It's pathetic. I'm not taking optimisation as an excuse, I have a trash setup and this game runs smooth 90 avg all the time

Turn shadow setting to low is like turning on cheat codes.

[pavey]

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

Have they fixed low view distance outright just deleting trees in the distance so you can TOW snipe vehicles across the map and whatnot that can't even see you? lol

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Turn shadow setting to low is like turning on cheat codes.

Also, going to heavily disagree as someone who played with low shadows, it's the brightess/gamma tweaks people do that make it way more obvious to see people even on non-night maps, but people are always blaming the wrong things and blaming people with worse PC's when it's really not the case and they've done no testing lmao. Then again the brightness/gamma ♥♥♥♥ is why night maps won't work in this game because people are basic af.

Or, idk, people just being better than you/having better eyes (Both irl and in terms of their positioning in game) than you being able to see the vague bit of movement through bushes?

I'm not talking a guy next to me, I'm talking about the guy that is hitting me with pinpoint accuracy from 200/300m away when I'm behind bushes. Clearly has everything turned down low and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with his .ini to be able to see that. My eyes are fine.

[pavey]

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

Originally posted by pavey:

I'm not talking a guy next to me, I'm talking about the guy that is hitting me with pinpoint accuracy from 200/300m away when I'm behind bushes. Clearly has everything turned down low and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with his .ini to be able to see that. My eyes are fine.

Nnnnnope, if anything from playing on low settings in my 1k hours everything on low actively makes it harder to see through, he probably had elevation on you, too. If you were moving prone or crouched up to it anyone with a 4x optic (Or upwards since there's 6x and so on depending) no matter what their settings would be able to see the vague bit of movement, not to mention how some camos and player appearances don't blend in all that well with either maps or foliage. Also given your response, plus your play time in the game, I'm going to assume you probably sprinted towards it and laid down as if it was hard cover behind it, because people who usually whinge about this lie about the actual circumstances that lead to them getting clapped.

Stop blaming the settings when there's other things at play that you haven't bothered to test for yourself, or are probably just going against better players.

You don't think 400hrs is enough to understand how to play well? I've been playing since this launched on steam, its happened to me enough times to know that my play style isn't the problem. I can't really give you a specific example but there are times I feel like there is no way someone should be able to see me if I put myself into their perspective with my settings unless they have a 6x optic like you said. I guess I'll just avoid all foliage until they rework that because realistically you shouldn't be able to notice tiny little pixel movements from 400m and open fire on a bush.

[CasinoBandit]

probably a bipod marksman that is utilizing his ranging. idk. ive been playing since this launched on steam too and ive hit people that probably didnt think anyone could see them

[Dakota]

Originally posted by cam bandit:

probably a bipod marksman that is utilizing his ranging. idk. ive been playing since this launched on steam too and ive hit people that probably didnt think anyone could see them

Same. You play long enough and you'll start seeing wiggling around in bushes and such, and if someone's in a bush and fires, it's a dead giveaway

[Onimaho]

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

Have they fixed low view distance outright just deleting trees in the distance so you can TOW snipe vehicles across the map and whatnot that can't even see you? lol

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Turn shadow setting to low is like turning on cheat codes.

Also, going to heavily disagree as someone who played with low shadows, it's the brightess/gamma tweaks people do that make it way more obvious to see people even on non-night maps, but people are always blaming the wrong things and blaming people with worse PC's when it's really not the case and they've done no testing lmao. Then again the brightness/gamma ♥♥♥♥ is why night maps won't work in this game because people are basic af.

Or, idk, people just being better than you/having better eyes (Both irl and in terms of their positioning in game) than you being able to see the vague bit of movement through bushes?

Setting shadows to low = no shadows....which means the colors pop from one another because there is no shading to blend them. Which means camo is now useless, because it has a color pallette that now is "highlighted" against the surrounding environment.

https://imgur.com/AwD6uyE

It gets even worse for those with shadows on for maps that have dynamic environment lighting. Since turning shadows to low, turns off all of the lighting effects against the environment.

[Have we won yet?]

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

Have they fixed low view distance outright just deleting trees in the distance so you can TOW snipe vehicles across the map and whatnot that can't even see you? lol

Originally posted by Onimaho:

Turn shadow setting to low is like turning on cheat codes.

Also, going to heavily disagree as someone who played with low shadows, it's the brightess/gamma tweaks people do that make it way more obvious to see people even on non-night maps, but people are always blaming the wrong things and blaming people with worse PC's when it's really not the case and they've done no testing lmao. Then again the brightness/gamma ♥♥♥♥ is why night maps won't work in this game because people are basic af.

Or, idk, people just being better than you/having better eyes (Both irl and in terms of their positioning in game) than you being able to see the vague bit of movement through bushes?

Of course you would say that, being the guy who play with low shadows. Whose opinion am I taking then? Yours, or that of dozens of other people in dozens of other threads? Post Scriptum has the same issue. Luckily for this game, Squad is more open and people aren't just covering a narrow corridor/plot of land. I've honestly not felt like it's that big of a deal. But don't lie, lower settings give better visibility. Period.

[pavey]

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

Originally posted by Dakota:

Same. You play long enough and you'll start seeing wiggling around in bushes and such, and if someone's in a bush and fires, it's a dead giveaway

people saying it's low settings when I'm literally talking about this as a phenomena, people blame ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all the time for them getting clapped, just because people complain doesn't make it true. lol

Also, the claims about low shadows are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because you'll literally notice shillouettes of people anyways on higher settings if you're not blind and it's a brightness setting thing anyways, play with shadows on anything higher than low and crank up the brightness to like 2, lol.

If enough people complain there must be some sort of truth there, I'm not sure why you are defending against the well known fact that in nearly all fps's turning down your graphics gives you an advantage to spot players hiding behind soft cover. Why would Squad be an exception?

Also you can see silhouettes from 400m away? Man maybe my eyes are bad, or I just don't have bionic vision :/

[CasinoBandit]

Originally posted by pavey:

Originally posted by DeadofPool:

people saying it's low settings when I'm literally talking about this as a phenomena, people blame ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all the time for them getting clapped, just because people complain doesn't make it true. lol

Also, the claims about low shadows are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because you'll literally notice shillouettes of people anyways on higher settings if you're not blind and it's a brightness setting thing anyways, play with shadows on anything higher than low and crank up the brightness to like 2, lol.

If enough people complain there must be some sort of truth there, I'm not sure why you are defending against the well known fact that in nearly all fps's turning down your graphics gives you an advantage to spot players hiding behind soft cover. Why would Squad be an exception?

Also you can see silhouettes from 400m away? Man maybe my eyes are bad, or I just don't have bionic vision :/

The "truth" is coming from people whose eyes aren't accustomed to actually LOOKING for an enemy.

[pavey]

Originally posted by cam bandit:

Originally posted by pavey:

If enough people complain there must be some sort of truth there, I'm not sure why you are defending against the well known fact that in nearly all fps's turning down your graphics gives you an advantage to spot players hiding behind soft cover. Why would Squad be an exception?

Also you can see silhouettes from 400m away? Man maybe my eyes are bad, or I just don't have bionic vision :/

The "truth" is coming from people whose eyes aren't accustomed to actually LOOKING for an enemy.

What a stupid thing to say. It's an fps. Looking for an enemy is the aim of the game

[pavey]

I'm not sure why people are in denial here. There are definitely people who turn down their settings just to get an advantage.

Apparently my eyes are just bad? Nah that ain't it