[Solved ]Question about Menagerie and forge access

[Cheval]

Hi,
Is there a way to get the two object needed without using Gem? Can I find it in a specific location or chest?

Thanks a lot

[Mickmane]

Yeah, you don't need to use gems. Sooner or later the items you need to access those (and other stuff later) will turn up somewhere.

[Deast]

Menagerie access items can be won at the Farm and some other places. Forge access items can be won at the Stone Quarry and some other places. If you click on the item it will show you all the places it comes from, including locations, monster kills and chests.

[Mickmane]

Originally posted by MAGFest Deast:

Menagerie access items can be won at the Farm and some other places. Forge access items can be won at the Stone Quarry and some other places. If you click on the item it will show you all the places it comes from, including locations, monster kills and chests.

It doesn't always do that. Only after you got the first one, I think.

Currently it isn't letting me into the Floating Islands even though I finally have the level. I assume it'll all clear itself up once I did the Defending the Menagerie Quest (or whatever else may come after that also has to do with Griffins).

And that isn't the first one that I had to get some specific thing for, that turned up as I progressed through other quests.

[PlasmaSpaz]

You can gain access to the menagerie by saving the white-haired elf lady. She gives you a quest to get the animal breeder book. With the forge, you need some caterpillar to gain access which can be found in Old Town.

[Karol13]

Same here, Floating Island and Bog are opened level-wise (level 19 required, I have level 20), but both require items that are nowhere to be found (at least there is not hint, not "go to location" or "magnifying glass" icon. Also clicking on both of the items, does not show anything in the list of "can be found at:" )
And even if you go through this part, you will see the same problem later on level 21, where last 3 location show, but will require unlocking items that won't be hinted.

[Cheval]

Thx.

I will be patient, I think I have one quest missing not linked to the menagerie.
I'll wait.

Thx

[Karol13]

As long you have quests, that can be completed, you are alright and don't need to worry. But if you will have a quest, that cannot be completed (mostly because it will require an item, that can be found only in the locked location, which you won't be hinted how to unlock), then it may be tricky.
But nothing, what could not be fixed by persistent playing :D... and not losing faith.

[PlasmaSpaz]

I haven't unlocked all the areas yet, but the ones I have I unlocked just through questing. I think the main point of gems is to spend on energy boosters or to get chest keys. So many people are complaining about this game but I think it's pretty fair for a free to play, I haven't reached a paywall yet where I HAVE to buy gems to progress.

[Lady_Lillit]

Originally posted by PlasmaSpaz:

I haven't unlocked all the areas yet, but the ones I have I unlocked just through questing.

That's the point, you must complete all quests to go further and get the quest to open the other HO locations.

[Cheval]

Yep, I confirmed I earn the stuff for the menagerie after completing the last missing quest.

Thx

[B.A.D.]

Originally posted by MAGFest Deast:

Menagerie access items can be won at the Farm and some other places. Forge access items can be won at the Stone Quarry and some other places. If you click on the item it will show you all the places it comes from, including locations, monster kills and chests.

But can you access the farm without gems?

[Karol13]

Originally posted by B.A.D.:

Originally posted by MAGFest Deast:

Menagerie access items can be won at the Farm and some other places. Forge access items can be won at the Stone Quarry and some other places. If you click on the item it will show you all the places it comes from, including locations, monster kills and chests.

But can you access the farm without gems?

Yep.

[Mickmane]

Originally posted by Karol13:

Same here, Floating Island and Bog are opened level-wise (level 19 required, I have level 20), but both require items that are nowhere to be found (at least there is not hint, not "go to location" or "magnifying glass" icon. Also clicking on both of the items, does not show anything in the list of "can be found at:" )
And even if you go through this part, you will see the same problem later on level 21, where last 3 location show, but will require unlocking items that won't be hinted.

Did you get the items by now? I am there now, level 20, and the only Quest I have left is getting something from the Floating Island (the 2nd water), which I can't access without that Griffin thing. Can't access Bog either.

I had hoped the 2 Quests involving Griffins would produce something, but no.

Just seeking confirmation. I hope there will be a new Quest when I level up to 21. Or maybe later?

I while away the time/xp progress by redoing the musician's set for increasing max energy, doing chests now and then, and repairing what I can. But as you got there before me, I figure can't hurt to ask, just in case there might actually be a bug with this being the only Quest left for me.

Thanks! :)

[Karol13]

I have bought access to Floating Islands, what opened new quests. One of them provided me with the "dream catcher" needed to unlock Bog.
Later on, after reaching level 21, similar "pat" situation was with three last locations (Fearie meadow, Underwater city and Mage's Tower)
At first it looked hopeless, but later I was able to unlock Mage's Tower without crystals. But to unlock the Fearie Meadow I needed to enter Underwater City, which I bought again with crystals.

I still believe that the game may eventually give "unlocking items" randomly, although not listed (due bug probably), but for Floating Islands and Ocean City I lost my patience and bought entry with crystals.

So I was not able to get the Griffin.. first after I unlocked Floating Islands, and the "get Griffin" quest came later... so now I have that useless Griffin under my items...

Funny part of the story:
Griffin is to be found in the Bog. While Bog is opened AFTER you complete the "water of southern / nothern mountains" ... One flask is in the Stronghold - no problem, the 2nd is in Floating Islands. So to break this bug, one must spend Crystals.
I bought entry to the Floating Islands, but maybe it would also work to first buy entry to the Bog and get Griffin from there.

Ghost Catcher (opens Bog) is obtained from Stronghold, but I did not get it before I got it as a quest (and this quest comes after one can get the flask from Floating Islands)

[Mickmane]

Originally posted by Karol13:

...
Funny part of the story:
Griffin is to be found in the Bog. While Bog is opened AFTER you complete the "water of southern / nothern mountains" ... One flask is in the Stronghold - no problem, the 2nd is in Floating Islands. So to break this bug, one must spend Crystals.
I bought entry to the Floating Islands, but maybe it would also work to first buy entry to the Bog and get Griffin from there.

Ghost Catcher (opens Bog) is obtained from Stronghold, but I did not get it before I got it as a quest (and this quest comes after one can get the flask from Floating Islands)

Ah, boo. Sounds like a bug.

Thanks much for the elaborate explanation, though! :)