AI won't accept peace no matter what.

[FireDogy]

After googling for an hour, I decided to try my luck here.

How the hell do I get the AI to make peace!?
I am by far the strongest, wealthiest and overall highest in all scores.
I've tried the suggested terms, and it basically wants every tech + resource I own in return.

Soooo what actions can I do to get friendship up and prompt peace? Diplomatic imbroligo seems to be the only way to increase pressure from the very limited diplomacy options, far as I see????

[utilityguy]

Originally posted by FireDogy:

After googling for an hour, I decided to try my luck here.

How the hell do I get the AI to make peace!?
I am by far the strongest, wealthiest and overall highest in all scores.
I've tried the suggested terms, and it basically wants every tech + resource I own in return.

I mean, you basically answered the title question. If you want peace with that A.I: Then accept their terms of being bribed with just about ever technology you own.

Granted: The Auto Diplomacy value button overestimates how much the player and A.I wants in order to make peace/trade deals work, as I bet you can get away with the A.I mood still being in the blue if you strategically take off, one by one, the most valuable items to you in that trade deal--only leaving on the items that actually forces a change to the blue meter.

Which means the A.I may not actually want everything you are offering up.
And I can attest to that, as the best way to optemize the way A.I accepts your deals is to figure out which resources they value the most, and leave out the rest.

Soooo what actions can I do to get friendship up and prompt peace? Diplomatic imbroligo seems to be the only way to increase pressure from the very limited diplomacy options, far as I see????

Diplomatic Imbroglio is listed as a red minus Diplomatic declaration, so doing so is just gonna get the A.I mad at you--meaning they will be more stubborn in accepting positive Diplomatic deals.

Honestly, I think the best thing you can do right now--if you really-really don't want give an arm and a leg, so to speak, for peace: Is to get the pacifist party to be the major political party in your empire and just force peace on the A.I. Granted: Horatio, Riftborn, Sophons, Choir, and Vaulters are the A.I that do not lose their knackers and go to an early war if you declare peace on them, so keep that in mind.

[FireDogy]

Originally posted by utilityguy:

Originally posted by FireDogy:

After googling for an hour, I decided to try my luck here.

How the hell do I get the AI to make peace!?
I am by far the strongest, wealthiest and overall highest in all scores.
I've tried the suggested terms, and it basically wants every tech + resource I own in return.

I mean, you basically answered the title question. If you want peace with that A.I: Then accept their terms of being bribed with just about ever technology you own.

Granted: The Auto Diplomacy value button overestimates how much the player and A.I wants in order to make peace/trade deals work, as I bet you can get away with the A.I mood still being in the blue if you strategically take off, one by one, the most valuable items to you in that trade deal--only leaving on the items that actually forces a change to the blue meter.

Which means the A.I may not actually want everything you are offering up.
And I can attest to that, as the best way to optemize the way A.I accepts your deals is to figure out which resources they value the most, and leave out the rest.

Soooo what actions can I do to get friendship up and prompt peace? Diplomatic imbroligo seems to be the only way to increase pressure from the very limited diplomacy options, far as I see????

Diplomatic Imbroglio is listed as a red minus Diplomatic declaration, so doing so is just gonna get the A.I mad at you--meaning they will be more stubborn in accepting positive Diplomatic deals.

Honestly, I think the best thing you can do right now--if you really-really don't want give an arm and a leg, so to speak, for peace: Is to get the pacifist party to be the major political party in your empire and just force peace on the A.I. Granted: Horatio, Riftborn, Sophons, Choir, and Vaulters are the A.I that do not lose their knackers and go to an early war if you declare peace on them, so keep that in mind.

Thanks for the thorough response! One question though: How can I see relationship with the other factions & how can I positively affect it? Can I make a faction more likely to accept peace by giving them a gift of 100 ressources once then waiting a few turns and repeating, or is it better to constantly gift them a small amount of resources + map share? etc.

[utilityguy]

Thanks for the thorough response! One question though: How can I see relationship with the other factions & how can I positively affect it?

1.) Go to the diplomacy screen and there should be a button, called swap position, which when pressed: lets you see what relations the A.I faction has with other A.I faction when you select them.

2.) Sadly, being able to barter a deal for the a.i to go to war with other A.I or sign peace treaties with other A.I is not something Amplitude has ever officially put into their games. Although there's a mod for Endless Legend which allows for the above.

bonus:
Clicking the plus circle sign called Empire Information in the Diplomacy screen allows you to see the personality traits of the A.I you are dealing with.

Can I make a faction more likely to accept peace by giving them a gift of 100 ressources once then waiting a few turns and repeating, or is it better to constantly gift them a small amount of resources + map share? etc.

From my experience:
While I have seen cases where the A.I likes me and continues giving gifts to me after I gifted them gifts a few times over a match:

Gifting resources to the A.I really is only there for you to relieve diplomatic pressure and prevent the A.I from having the ability to use their diplomatic leverage on you by forcing ultimatums of you giving them resources/populations/economic/scientific tribute or face sometimes severe repercussions to you empire (one of which is fleet travel speed restrictions)

[Vzzdak]

Has anyone *ever* conceded to the Ai under these circumstances?
And would it really matter, provided that you had a strong economy and military that could continue to walk over them.
People lament lack of end-game challenge from the Ai; perhaps this is how to level the playing field.
Leveling is not technically in your favour, except potentially having a more rewarding opponent.

Or as another challenge, make a point of giving away all of your technologies to all of the Ai opponents, and see whether you can still dominate.

[arrak]

When AI dialog box pops up: Do not listen to what the AI is saying. But read the written.
What they speak loud is mostly the oposite of the written dialog. Read what they say.
The written tells you a lot. The written is what they are actually saying.

I ignore AI demands. if you ignore, their demands become better and better in your favour.
I see it this way: "Stuff you...i will not lick your hind, and if i think you are worthy, i shall
grant you the honour of kissing my feet." Thats the way i treat AI, and after a while they
all want to suck up to me. (When i want to do really Evil deeds, i declair myself religious...
...yeah in the Name of God....)
I place a small scout in their area and make sure i do Not shoot them. If after so many
rounds you have not fired one shot, the relatiionship betters.

If AI declares war: Withdraw fleets just to protect your area. No shots for certain rounds, after certain round you do Not have to pay anything for them to gladly accept your peace offer.

Each particular Civ, has fixed like and dislike values to other Civs. Get to know who like who :)
Get to know the charactiristics of the different Civs, their reactions.

Important: "Remove your fleets from my area of influence"
(if this option is not available, it means that the one you want to tell it to, has gone religious.
And that one you should straight on kill on the spot.)