SJW was the fall of wow.
now this trash is seeping into FF.

Ppl barely talked in dungeons before, now it's safer to just disable chat altogether.

LOL RIP the community. I read this from top to bottom and it essentially keeps you from giving any sort of criticism to anyone without fear of a report. Good luck and loss of a player. Imagine being so sensitive to such insignificant comments.

Автор сообщения: poke

Автор сообщения: Frocobo

I can dig this to some extent as there is some of this sentiment expressed here.
Conversely, there's also an equal and arguably more abusive (in regards to this thread) element of "you're a douchebag/a-hole" or even a "fascist" wanting to abuse and harass everyone if you're not fully onboard with it.

I suspect most folk are either ok with it or would just like further clarification but the ridiculous quarter grab the limelight. We've been divided well.

yeah i get that 100%. personally havent gone thru the whole thread and only saw the reactionaries in the first page before responding so i didn't notice those kinda people, i'll just take ur word for it that they exist.
but yeah in these kinds of cases its usually the very vocal minority of people who are loudest. usually don't like responding in these forums because i'm very aware that's the case i just got gamer rage or some ♥♥♥♥ late at night idk lmao

Автор сообщения: DeadofPool Discord hacked

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this post is embarrassing by the way, this is exactly what i was talkin about. it is not that serious lmfao dude's shooting out ad hominems left and right for no reason

by the way if you guys haven't seen it already, read over this. maybe it will alleviate some concern, maybe it won't, but it offers some clarification nonetheless

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/10d71b82be39855db03c49bc946fe7354364902d

I'm just gonna flat out say you have nil reading comprehension and too much faith in humanity if you think that "We let people report based off of subjective offense:" is a good policy.

Quite frankly it's moronic that people can't see the broad range of abuse with these policies despite crying about trolls and so on yet don't see how trolls can use this honestly garbage tos to abuse ppl. Not to mention squenix employees, as stated before, are not infallible just because they're put in a moderative role. Moderators are flawed people like you and me, make mistakes, and have their own biases which I've def seen a bunch of moderators that're even hired officially and aren't just volunteers abuse the ♥♥♥♥ out of.

Also, if you're not gonna actually quote the post, don't bother quoting it, I don't know what ad homs you're talking about but there's def been people ad homming me and everyone who has a problem with this and, again, your reading comprehension is already demonstratably bad along with everyone defending the TOS.

Автор сообщения: Guts33n

SJW was the fall of wow.
now this trash is seeping into FF.

Ppl barely talked in dungeons before, now it's safer to just disable chat altogether.

"I didn't read the comments here or the actual TOS properly" - Guts33n

Автор сообщения: moth

Автор сообщения: rubberuke

I didn't read it, i have only ever had problems with people who were mentally ill with colorful hair. basically, if it upsets the woke crowd im for it.

I feel like you should read it, as the new rules/clarifications are meant for folks like you. lol

As a farmland American, the use of the word "Folks" offends me. FAVE is a part of our culture and I believe you are culturally appropriating our slang in order to mock and degrade us so apologize now and enjoy your ban.

Автор сообщения: No Gender Only Bones

Автор сообщения: Will

these replies are insane is it really that hard to be civil with others and not do RMT?

Haven't you heard? Requesting the bare minimum of "be respectful and leave people alone" in a videogame is infringing on everyones rights to be a complete jerk to strangers on the internet! :cqlol:

Jokes aside the comments on here are indicative of the general community that steam's generated: people who have always been ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and decide it's their god given right to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ out loud to everyone and any criticisms or actions taken against them is something something "blue haired tween"'s fault

pretty much xD. At least you are in these comments to restore my faith in humanity. <3

Автор сообщения: Guts33n

SJW was the fall of wow.
now this trash is seeping into FF.

Ppl barely talked in dungeons before, now it's safer to just disable chat altogether.

People talk in dungeons all the time. Link your character? curious to see how much you've actually played.

Автор сообщения: pHEN0MEENAL

Автор сообщения: Guts33n

SJW was the fall of wow.
now this trash is seeping into FF.

Ppl barely talked in dungeons before, now it's safer to just disable chat altogether.

People talk in dungeons all the time. Link your character? curious to see how much you've actually played.

Not that much though, in my experience dungeons are about:

Greetings

Pull more/less mobs (now punishable per new policy)

GG *leavs the dungeon.


Ff14 have one of the worst chat systems around, people don't even notice you speaking in general as there's not even a chart bubble, it's just a plain text on a box that will get crowded with a bunch of activity report texts, tell is slow and lacks a quick reply feature. They don't want people to communicate generally speaking.

Автор сообщения: Rizoma

Start to punish for unjustified kicks from a party or raid, that's what gets in the way "players can continue to safely enjoy their time in FINAL FANTASY XIV".

you can report players for this and they take it very seriously from what ive heard

Автор сообщения: Will

Автор сообщения: Rizoma

Start to punish for unjustified kicks from a party or raid, that's what gets in the way "players can continue to safely enjoy their time in FINAL FANTASY XIV".

you can report players for this and they take it very seriously from what ive heard

they are very serious about anything not worth being very serious about...

Автор сообщения: Rodrigo

Автор сообщения: pHEN0MEENAL

People talk in dungeons all the time. Link your character? curious to see how much you've actually played.

Not that much though, in my experience dungeons are about:

Greetings

Pull more/less mobs (now punishable per new policy)

GG *leavs the dungeon.


Ff14 have one of the worst chat systems around, people don't even notice you speaking in general as there's not even a chart bubble, it's just a plain text on a box that will get crowded with a bunch of activity report texts, tell is slow and lacks a quick reply feature. They don't want people to communicate generally speaking.

So why don't you just turn off the activity report ♥♥♥♥? and I have chatbubbles, it's not that hard to get.

Автор сообщения: Will

Автор сообщения: Rizoma

Start to punish for unjustified kicks from a party or raid, that's what gets in the way "players can continue to safely enjoy their time in FINAL FANTASY XIV".

you can report players for this and they take it very seriously from what ive heard

Nope! Because you can say it was a difference of playstyle (healer using cure 1 spam, tank not wall-to-wall, not knowing what you're doing in an extreme/savage/ultimate pf) and it won't change anything. They don't ban for it.

Most of the people don't seem to realise that barely anything has changed and besides few additions it's mostly just adding examples to clarify some of the ambiguity of the already existing rules.

Guess some people are just addicted to fear mongering lol

Автор сообщения: Seraphita

Автор сообщения: pHEN0MEENAL

Nope! Because you can say it was a difference of playstyle (healer using cure 1 spam, tank not wall-to-wall, not knowing what you're doing in an extreme/savage/ultimate pf) and it won't change anything. They don't ban for it.

Tank not wall-to-wall would be you trying to force your playstyle on them, which is against the rules. You do know that these dungeons need people to cooperate and not PVP on daily schedules in duties where they should be working together, right? What's even going on...?

What happened to people trying to help each others get through together, having fun and making friends? Or is it too cringe for this generation? Everyone always needs to fight. >.>

I just don't see what's so hard about pulling 12 mobs instead of 3 and then pressing rampart, or avoiding using cure 1 as a healer. It's really not that difficult, sorry.

Автор сообщения: Seraphita

Автор сообщения: pHEN0MEENAL

I just don't see what's so hard about pulling 12 mobs instead of 3 and then pressing rampart, or avoiding using cure 1 as a healer. It's really not that difficult, sorry.

12, lol. I think you mean 24

Please tell me a single dungeon past 50, when they started designing dungeons around wall-to-wall, where you can pull 24 mobs at once.

I'll record videos for you of me playing every single tank job, and healer job, and successfully tanking/healing wall-to-walls with no stress at all if you'd like. Add me, and I'll teach you about it. I will literally help you, cooperation, like you said. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgTambpkRc

This video is great, btw. Guy made a video for the healers that just spam cure 1 and refuse to dps because they think wall-to-wall is something impossibly difficult.

Автор сообщения: Seraphita

Ah yes because I'm totally doing that. /s Thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about. And I don't mean that in the air. You just seriously proved that you prefer to assume over getting your facts straight. There's no reasoning with you but it's fine. In my experience, I know what I went through and I will NOT be swayed away by people like you.

Besides, if you were to insult my playstyle in game like you're doing now, it would get you reported if I trust the tos. Giving tips is okay as long as you don't try to denigrate the user. I don't do wall to wall even if I know how to heal and tank because it's safer to just pull a reasonable bunch (and by reasonable, I mean as much as I can pull without killing myself.)

I feel like you ignored the rest of my comment tho :( and you didn't even mention what dungeons let you pull 24 mobs at once.. also, saying "you can pull more if you'd like" doesn't seem all that bad imo. I don't understand how that's harassment to you? but if you're going to keep arguing in bad faith that it's harassment to ask tanks to please pull a little more and that i'm 100% capable of outhealing whatever the damage is, then I don't even know what the point of this is

but whatever, cooperation is key so feel free to add me so we can chat about it~