Is borderless windowed buggy at this game?

[R3ign]

I am playing this game since like 2016 but to be honest I always had it on Fullscreen. Since I am alt-tabing often I switched to bordeless windowed but the thing is that whenever I use it I get randomly disconnecting from discord calls or the discord program is closing entierly, or Youtube music in the background is being paused. If I switch to fullscreen those issues disappear, pretty weird. Anybody with similar experiences?

[VaryNia]

Been using BF for 2 years on 3 different PCs and I never had problems. You should probably contact support

[tathen]

引用自 Varyn：

never had problems. You should probably contact support

[MOSLEY]

As with all games, there's a noticeable difference in performance between fullscreen and windowed, especially if you're running at higher frame rates with a high refresh rate monitor. Borderless works as you would expect though.

[Ms Peaches]

I've never had anything like this happen honestly. and I've played on multiple pcs over the years. I feel like this might be a computer issue and not the game itself. I know on my pc (she's 5 years old now) the gpu will get a little finicky if the pc has been on all day sometimes.

[Stinky Potato]

引用自 MOSLEY：

As with all games, there's a noticeable difference in performance between fullscreen and windowed, especially if you're running at higher frame rates with a high refresh rate monitor. Borderless works as you would expect though.

Only because the game uses BitBlt instead of FLIP mode for swapchain presentation. Injecting SpecialK into FFXIV removes the performance loss of borderless versus exclusive. This also fixes variable refresh rate with borderless.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

For me borderless is buggy, using an adaptive sync monitor. The framerate randomly crashes to 30's then recovers. Full screen has no such issue.

[R3ign]

引用自 Ms Peaches：

I've never had anything like this happen honestly. and I've played on multiple pcs over the years. I feel like this might be a computer issue and not the game itself. I know on my pc (she's 5 years old now) the gpu will get a little finicky if the pc has been on all day sometimes.

Even the fps limiter is buggy but that doesnt matter it happens in borderless and fullscreen. I have 240hz monitor and if I press the 1/2 fps limiter it drops to 48fps instead of 120 another weird thing. And no my pc is totally fine I am only having these weird issues with FFXIV.

[R3ign]

anyway i guess i will contact support hoping for the best, thanks for the replies

[Moridin]

引用自 28 games later：

引用自 Ms Peaches：

I've never had anything like this happen honestly. and I've played on multiple pcs over the years. I feel like this might be a computer issue and not the game itself. I know on my pc (she's 5 years old now) the gpu will get a little finicky if the pc has been on all day sometimes.

Even the fps limiter is buggy but that doesnt matter it happens in borderless and fullscreen. I have 240hz monitor and if I press the 1/2 fps limiter it drops to 48fps instead of 120 another weird thing. And no my pc is totally fine I am only having these weird issues with FFXIV.

Due to issues with people getting out of bounds by having a really high FPS square actually FPS locked the game. it should max out at 60 FPS iirc. 120 and above used to allow for wall clipping and such.

[Vasya Pupkin]

Discord and other Chrome based apps are causing that because they all use weird Chromium GPU rendering. And Nvidia does not like to have both a 3D "full power" app and "plain 2D low power" app at the same time. See, recently drivers had an issue with Discord specifically locking GPUs in low power states just because of this.

Update your drivers and stop using Chromium, try Firefox

[MOSLEY]

引用自 Moridin：

引用自 28 games later：

Even the fps limiter is buggy but that doesnt matter it happens in borderless and fullscreen. I have 240hz monitor and if I press the 1/2 fps limiter it drops to 48fps instead of 120 another weird thing. And no my pc is totally fine I am only having these weird issues with FFXIV.

Due to issues with people getting out of bounds by having a really high FPS square actually FPS locked the game. it should max out at 60 FPS iirc. 120 and above used to allow for wall clipping and such.

What? I run the game at 200+ FPS on a 240hz monitor. The frame rate definitely isn't locked.

[Stinky Potato]

引用自 Hobo Misanthropus：

For me borderless is buggy, using an adaptive sync monitor. The framerate randomly crashes to 30's then recovers. Full screen has no such issue.

Again, because the game uses bitblt swapchain presentation. There's a 3rd party fix for this. SpecialK local inject if on windows 10 or use windowed gaming optimizations on windows 11.

[Stinky Potato]

For all those with variable refresh rate monitors having a bad experience in borderless fullscreen, or people who see peformance loss in borderless, see the solution and general writeup from another thread:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210/discussions/0/4859966604382555814/

[Izeyash]

Only buggy thing that I noticed was that the game gets confused if you put it to half framerate.

[Stinky Potato]

引用自 Izeyash：

Only buggy thing that I noticed was that the game gets confused if you put it to half framerate.

Are you using freesync? That's an issue. Use an external fps limiter, which specialk can also act as.

The game tries to use present(n) to implement a frame limiter, which falls off a cliff figuratively with VRR. It bugs out on freesync/amd while gsync gets disabled on nvidia stealthily if it's used.