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None. The answer is none. PF does not need to be used for progressing through the MSQ. People are only doing PF content while progressing to either a- see it, or b- clear out the blue quest. If it's A, unsynched is /bad/. If it's B, yes, they should do it unsynced...but you did not explain enough for people to understand the context of your "advice" (which reads like a demand and not advice btw; if that's not your intention, you might want to revisit).
You can't say you're not into explaining something remedial when the initial advice is remedial. Either you're out to actually help people, or you're not.
'Do what I say' isn't helpful. It's just not. If you actually care, be HELPFUL, don't demand obedience.
Sunny, we are seriously not talking about Roulette, the only caveat was we, and the whole point of this thread was PARTY FIND. You are a smart person, why are you mixing the two. Did you misunderstand my intent? If you did, I apologize and will reiterate. I am only speaking about Party Find. Roulette's have only one caveat mitigation technique, and I do not engage in that.
People whom are new bloods aren't in Roulette's
They are looking for Story Clear. Just like everyone whom has alts, and are looking to advance them as fast as possible.
PF is not used by noobs to progress.
PF is used by noobs to clear a blue quest, or to experience the content. USUALLY, it's to experience the content.
No progression.
Noobs aren't progging.
Noob progression is not locked behind anything that anybody uses PF for. ALL story progression is included in at least one roulette. They should never be doing PF for it to begin with.
If noobs are trying to use PF for progression, the advice should be: use the roulette system via DutyFinder; select the individual dungeon and queue for it there, and your queue will be filled with people that are queing roulettes. Way faster than PF, unless you're an Aussie (rip).
Sunny, I think you are disconnected. Seriously.
Your time on this game pales in comparison to mine.
Plus I look at all the facets, as was my job in military intelligence.
You are killing me with your reporting.
Party Find (PF) is used my 99.5% of the in-game populous.
Whether it is for actual fights, or advertisements, they use it to call for aid.
Additionally, Why would you say:
Such a thing is clearly wrong, as that is their only medium to do such for the dungeons and trials, save for the 'Duty Support' that was recently initiated, but even then Duty Support is synced and slow, and still not optimal. Why? Because they didn't design it to be an efficient fight, it was programmed to be a fight that repeats itself, infinitely. Meaning, the fighters in your Duty Support do not move to the most efficient method, they just move to get the fight completed. Oh and before you ask, yes, I had some exposure to programming in my education. I am a curious sort, so learning about programming was a given.
Well you are wrong, Sunny.
BLU only want PF with like BLU's and the occasional tank, because BLU is still broken as an all around second class citizen in respect to the FFXIV Classes, which is sad. There is no content to enjoy, or really, re-enjoy. Do you not have a BLU? I do, several times over.
There is nothing new to experience in BLU content when trying to complete objectives, sadly. So no, you are incorrect there, as well.
I mean seriously, how may PF groups would not see a BLU join their PF and not immediately boot them? None, if they were not BLU group already. BLU is the (American Folklore Reference) Red-headed Step-child of the Classes, which is absolutely terrible, considering how much effort BLU's go though to gather all those skills to be 'Competent'. It is a travesty.
lol.
You...
You do know that PartyFinder and DutyFinder are different things, yes?
DutyFinder is the medium that noobs use for story progression, and if you queue up for that uncynched it just puts you right in all by yourself.
(Where you queue up for roulettes, there are other tabs. In those other tabs are how you queue up for dungeons individually. That's what noobs use for story progression; the holes are filled by people doing roulettes. The tutorial walks them through this for Satasha.)
Not Duty Support (which is NPCs), not Party Finder (creating what other games call premades, basically), but Duty Finder (the party matching system). That's how noobs get experienced players in everything that is needed for progression. Every dungeon, trial, and alliance raid that is required by MSQ is included in DutyFinder with *at least* one Roulette that feeds it.
Noobs doing story progression =/= blue mage leveling/skillfinding.
Yes, BLU has to use PF. They're not even allowed to queue in DF without either a premade or being solo.
If "NEW PLAYERS" are using PF, they're usually doing it to experience the content. They don't need a quick Unsynched clear; they have DutyFinder for progression.
PF is for optional or current content. If somebody is using it for mandatory story content, again, the advice should be to use DutyFinder/the Roulette system.
Sunny, Stop. Just Stop.
What are even trying to do. Seriously.
You went from Newbie progression, to BLU progression.
BLU Progression was not in my OP. What are you even doing?
I'm going to erase all everything you said that was quoted, so you can, respectfully, start anew, I am only talking about Party Find. Please do not Inject any other method that are, coincidentally, not available to new people playing the game.
I was responding to the paragraph that began with this. Which you posted.
DutyFinder is unlocked with the first Dungeon in the game. It is what the tutorial tells you to use to clear required content. You are walked through how to use it.
If new players are using PF to clear story required content, the appropriate advice is, 'use DutyFinder, not PF, this is the wrong tool', not 'do it unsynced'.
No progression."
"Blue Quest" not= BLU prog.
"Blue Quest" = Quests that unlock things. Generally the next step in the trial/raid sequences in the context of PF.
Did you just make that up? You must have.
There is no such thing in this game as a Blue Quest, seriously.
The only things comparable to a 'Blue Quests' belong to those whom are BLU MAGES. Seriously, you came at me with this totes weak sauce and expected it to fly? Try harder.
What? The blue quest icons literally dictate "this quest unlocks content."
Blue Mage is BLU, not Blue. Though the questline to start it is both :)
Clearing those quests off their maps is one of the reasons noobs use PF, and it's the use case they *should* use Unsynced PF for.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Feature_Quests
I legitimately don't believe that you play ffxiv. Blue quests are the sidequests that unlock content. You know... The ones that have the blue icon. The ones that the entire English speaking community refers to as "blue quests".
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400077336
It is also what you would use for all MSQ required trials, as well as Crystal Tower. They are on different tabs in the interface there.
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This is PartyFinder. It is a bad idea for noobs to try and use it for doing story content for progression. That's not what it gets used for. PartyFinder is used for optional content from all expansions and current prog/farming tier, generally. And, well. You see what else in the screenshot. If you mark this unsynched, sometimes a level 100 player will take pity on you and run you through it (so you basically skip the fight but yay got a complete I guess):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400077228
PF is how someone would do the Coils stuff today. Or Void Ark, or w/e. Skipping the fights defeats the purpose of doing them to begin with, since it's all optional content. It doesn't have to be done to get to Endgame. Why do you think they would prioritize clearing over doing the fight, when doing the fight is the best part of the experience? The clear by itself is meaningless at this point. They're not THERE for that, so why should they aim for that? If it takes longer it takes longer, they can deal with it or leave. Unsynced doesn't solve the problem.
If it's just the unlock they're after, unsync all day, absolutely. Generally these people *are* doing that, though.
'want a fast clear' and 'want to do the content' are not the same groups of people
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This is Duty Support, where noobs can do dungeons with NPCs if they're shy noobs (or in Australia, since they don't have enough people for a whole 4 man party there):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400081556
DutyFinder and DutySupport are found under the Duty menu; PartyFinder can be found under the Party menu. They are different tools used for different purposes. DutyFinder is appropriate for quick noob story progression.
People wanting to do fights as they were designed aren't being unreasonable. If somebody is complaining about a MSQ trial PF not filling up, kindly suggest they're using the wrong tool. If they're failing at using DutyFinder because queue times are irritating, they need to shard hop to their region's populous shard. 'Unsynced PF' is not the solution for any MSQ related fight.
People are using PF for content in which they actually want to do the content. Discouraging them is problematic behavior. If you aren't interested in actually doing the content (which is what they're making the PFs for, if they're not unsynced), don't join the party. Ignore it like you ignore the multiple pages of nightclub ads. It's not for you, just walk away and let somebody else have fun. They complain because they don't just *want* a clear, it's not about the clear, it's about actually seeing the fight instead of it being over before you've figured out which way is up.
They don't want the shiny badge if they don't earn it. And that's bad because them...what, existing? annoys you?
And BTW-Hopping into OTHER PEOPLES' FUN and 'suggesting' that they do things your way, then proceeding to complain about it here? Sounds like a couple very inefficient, unnecessary endeavors to me.