The official anti cheat waiting room of 7.21 and 7.25.

[causality]

How will the cheaters respond? Will they just quit playing and find a new game?

[Vlad Krapula]

I just called yoship and he confirmed anti-cheat-gooning coming 7.3

[󠀡󠀡]

look man square enix isn’t adding anti-cheat now or ever. this isn’t a company that cares about gameplay integrity. this is a company that sees XIV as a bloated storefront wearing a cosplay wig. they’ve been knowingly letting people cheat for years and the only time they even pretend to care is when someone gets caught using third-party tools on stream or posts screenshots with mods they didn’t photoshop out properly. even then the punishment is basically "we’re disappointed in you, senpai."

do you really think they're about to deploy a full-blown anti-cheat when their entire player retention strategy revolves around keeping lonely glam addicts and weird stalkers subscribed? half the PF clears are being propped up by people running automated rotations and boss mod timelines. the other half are so checked out they wouldn’t notice if someone was literally speedhacking through mechanics.

how will the cheaters respond? they won’t. because SE isn’t doing anything. they never were. they’ll keep playing, keep clearing, and keep paying, and SE will keep pretending not to notice as long as the credit cards don’t stop swiping.

this game isn't getting an anti-cheat. it's getting another cash shop mount and a borderline-useless UI feature no one asked for.

[PixelGFX]

I talked to my unknown source at SE and used my oracle - both told me:

SE is implementing Denovu, an internally developed anti-cheat and a Kernelmodule for Windows to get rid of these cheaters and Mac/Linux users (according to EA all Linux users are cheaters anyway, so they don't need them)
and, of course, to get rid of these Windows user who are keeping the OS up to date.

To prevent any other tempering SE will use the same secure update mechanism like Cisco does.
SE even invest some money in their security by buying:
- Cisco Firewall (protect against Chinese backdoors)
- Huawei Firewall (Protect against US backdoors)
- Checkpoint FW (against Russian backdoors)
- Fortinet FW (against Israeli backdoors)
- Palo Alto (cuz all the cool kids use them)
- pfSense (for good measurement)

Btw: The game datas have to be downloaded every time you start the game, only the Launcher remains. And please have at least 100GB RAM free.

[Daniel]

Game is definitely nearing Diablo II Bnet territory. Can cheat everything now outside of maybe deep dungeon solos. I’m starting to notice a lot of obviously bad people wearing ult glamours (no, not UWU)

Savages & Ult. -check
Leveling -check
Auto-instancing -check
Material grinding -check
Island leveling -check
Gil farming -check
MGP farming -check

Devs turning a blind eye as long as the house party dance club’s sub money comes in.

Also JP master race all playing on console so no problems there.

[Calandir]

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

I talked to my unknown source at SE and used my oracle - both told me:

SE is implementing Denovu, an internally developed anti-cheat and a Kernelmodule for Windows to get rid of these cheaters and Mac/Linux users (according to EA all Linux users are cheaters anyway, so they don't need them)
and, of course, to get rid of these Windows user who are keeping the OS up to date.

To prevent any other tempering SE will use the same secure update mechanism like Cisco does.
SE even invest some money in their security by buying:
- Cisco Firewall (protect against Chinese backdoors)
- Huawei Firewall (Protect against US backdoors)
- Checkpoint FW (against Russian backdoors)
- Fortinet FW (against Israeli backdoors)
- Palo Alto (cuz all the cool kids use them)
- pfSense (for good measurement)

Btw: The game datas have to be downloaded every time you start the game, only the Launcher remains. And please have at least 100GB RAM free.

I could see it happening. Just the windows part is bit sketchy.

[causality]

With 7.21 releasing next week I am interested how this development plays out.

[Orinna]

Still hangin’ out in the waitin’ room, huh? Gotta hand it to you, solid commitment. But let’s be real, nothin’s changin’ next week. Just like nothin’ changed last patch… or the one before that… or the years before that. Might be time to call it: the “anti-cheat hype thread” flatlined ages ago.

[Lixire]

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

I talked to my unknown source at SE and used my oracle - both told me:

SE is implementing Denovu, an internally developed anti-cheat and a Kernelmodule for Windows to get rid of these cheaters and Mac/Linux users (according to EA all Linux users are cheaters anyway, so they don't need them)
and, of course, to get rid of these Windows user who are keeping the OS up to date.

To prevent any other tempering SE will use the same secure update mechanism like Cisco does.
SE even invest some money in their security by buying:
- Cisco Firewall (protect against Chinese backdoors)
- Huawei Firewall (Protect against US backdoors)
- Checkpoint FW (against Russian backdoors)
- Fortinet FW (against Israeli backdoors)
- Palo Alto (cuz all the cool kids use them)
- pfSense (for good measurement)

Btw: The game datas have to be downloaded every time you start the game, only the Launcher remains. And please have at least 100GB RAM free.

Fortinet out of all things? literal joke of a firewall as of lately when it comes to security that I wonder how they are still around...

[Raansu]

Eh, We have sonicwalls, palo altos and fortigates at my job. They honestly all have their quirks, and no firewall is going to be perfect. Personally, I really like sonicwalls OS.

[PixelGFX]

Finally SE made an anti cheat, by breaking their own launcher.
Cuz less ppl playing == less alleged cheaters
I love EA logic, works always.

[Zabi]

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

Finally SE made an anti cheat, by breaking their own launcher.
Cuz less ppl playing == less alleged cheaters
I love EA logic, works always.

To be exact, they changed the launcher by adding Microsoft Edge WebView2 and broke the game for Linux users again. The launcher has been the biggest problem by far for Linux users for years.

[Stormy Dawn]

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

Finally SE made an anti cheat, by breaking their own launcher.
Cuz less ppl playing == less alleged cheaters
I love EA logic, works always.

Or now that XIVLauncher is up again, more people will use that launcher and expose themselves to Dalamud and the modding scene as a whole.

If anything numbers will go up. XD

[Scarsick]

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

Finally SE made an anti cheat, by breaking their own launcher.
Cuz less ppl playing == less alleged cheaters
I love EA logic, works always.

How is it broken? I even turned XIVLauncher off and it's working as usual.

[Raansu]

Автор сообщения: Scarsick

Автор сообщения: PixelGFX

Finally SE made an anti cheat, by breaking their own launcher.
Cuz less ppl playing == less alleged cheaters
I love EA logic, works always.

How is it broken? I even turned XIVLauncher off and it's working as usual.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/21ecdec8e7634aba3fdf6f8bbad9cfffd5602236

[causality]

Автор сообщения: Raansu

Автор сообщения: Scarsick

How is it broken? I even turned XIVLauncher off and it's working as usual.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/21ecdec8e7634aba3fdf6f8bbad9cfffd5602236

Multi billion yen corporation btw.