The official anti cheat waiting room of 7.21 and 7.25.

[causality]

How will the cheaters respond? Will they just quit playing and find a new game?

[Mr. Alf]

Publicado originalmente por ♥:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alf:

i wonder how many players would leave if Mare and QoL stuff would get banned (both are non harmful for anyone)

i don't even use mare, don't want to find how mow meny in limsa are really having sex, i just use stuff like "show shield on top of health bar" and other QOL stuff, and while i am not in the rabbit/furry craze, you going to loose them for not getting to use thier hats.

lol why ppl think that Mare is sex/erp only? ppl use it to change their char without nsfw

[Stormy Dawn]

Publicado originalmente por Scarsick:

Publicado originalmente por Chashmodai:

will you keep or delete this thread when nothing happens in 7.2?

This is not a thread, it's bait. But the answer is probably make a new one and keep calling "plogons"

Which always struck me as funny. Plogon is a term used by the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the Discord server which I can only assume causality is a member of to have it so ingrained in his vocabulary.

[Integrity]

I would be sad that PaissaDB website would become useless. Otherwise I don't use any plug ins so would not care at all.

edit: Yes, I benefit indirectly from other players using plug ins. But since I don't use it myself, my conscience is clear.

[Havok]

Publicado originalmente por Integrity:

I would be sad that PaissaDB website would become useless. Otherwise I don't use any plug ins so would not care at all.

edit: Yes, I benefit indirectly from other players using plug ins. But since I don't use it myself, my conscience is clear.

Keep telling yourself that. By your own admission you are using the plugin, since the site is part of the plugin, arguably the more "important" part of it. Whether or not you contribute to the housing status by visiting plots or not is irrelevant, the tool in game simply dumps the data to the site, but the site IS part of the plugin. So yea, you use plugins.

[Stormy Dawn]

Publicado originalmente por Havok:

Publicado originalmente por Integrity:

I would be sad that PaissaDB website would become useless. Otherwise I don't use any plug ins so would not care at all.

edit: Yes, I benefit indirectly from other players using plug ins. But since I don't use it myself, my conscience is clear.

Keep telling yourself that. By your own admission you are using the plugin, since the site is part of the plugin, arguably the more "important" part of it. Whether or not you contribute to the housing status by visiting plots or not is irrelevant, the tool in game simply dumps the data to the site, but the site IS part of the plugin. So yea, you use plugins.

That is definitely not the way it works. You can argue those types of people are complicit and maybe even are responsible for endorsing plugins, but they themselves are not using them.

[Sayo]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alf:

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

"If you don't spit in the face of the developers you're not with it" is certainly a take.

i wonder how many players would leave if Mare and QoL stuff would get banned (both are non harmful for anyone)

A handful but not the majority. Modders like to think they're the most important.

[Mr. Alf]

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alf:

i wonder how many players would leave if Mare and QoL stuff would get banned (both are non harmful for anyone)

A handful but not the majority. Modders like to think they're the most important.

idk didnt see modders think about themselves like that
but yeah, many games rely on mods/plugins and adding pointless anti cheat will just lead to developers getting less money (cheaters will find a way to bypass anticheat, it takes couple of minutes)

[Sayo]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alf:

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

A handful but not the majority. Modders like to think they're the most important.

idk didnt see modders think about themselves like that
but yeah, many games rely on mods/plugins and adding pointless anti cheat will just lead to developers getting less money (cheaters will find a way to bypass anticheat, it takes couple of minutes)

Yeah but this isn't a game that relies on mods and plugins.

[Stormy Dawn]

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alf:

idk didnt see modders think about themselves like that
but yeah, many games rely on mods/plugins and adding pointless anti cheat will just lead to developers getting less money (cheaters will find a way to bypass anticheat, it takes couple of minutes)

Yeah but this isn't a game that relies on mods and plugins.

Neither do any others. That isn't the point.

[Sayo]

Publicado originalmente por Stormy Dawn:

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

Yeah but this isn't a game that relies on mods and plugins.

Neither do any others. That isn't the point.

Then what was his point?

[Stormy Dawn]

Publicado originalmente por Sayo:

Publicado originalmente por Stormy Dawn:

Neither do any others. That isn't the point.

Then what was his point?

Oh my bad. I thought that entire quoted text section was yours for some reason. I don't really know what Alf's point is frankly.

[weiss]

Ultimates & Savages are cleared with XIVcombo 1-button forks.

so, those vipers and pictomancers which are to 90% XIV Combo without any plugin are now automaticly cheaters?
good to know
the XIV combo thing will eventually come for all classes anyways to keep the classes payable on a PS4/5 controller. its not avoidable and then are you aswell an XIV Combo cheater ... which you are already with viper and pictomancer anyways =P.
why is it not avoidable?
well, they either strip the classes of more skills or implement XIV combo.

[Chashmodai]

and to no-one's surprise, plugins are back already

[Mr. Alf]

Publicado originalmente por Chashmodai:

and to no-one's surprise, plugins are back already

obv, cuz people would leave = less money for devs

[Chashmodai]

turns out they didn't even fix the issue with account IDs with this patch either

sad day for the gooners that thought they could make a new erp alt and all would be fine and dandy.