Cheating and modding

[Vlad Krapula]

So I checked out the "Artwork" section here and it's literally full off modded game pics. What did some of you guys say about cheating and modding not being blatant? ICANT

[Aya]

Originally posted by Shield:

Originally posted by Aya:

> People are enjoying themselves and I hate them for that.

Here’s what some of you sound like.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3388386201

C'mon bro, you really don't think this is weird?

Keep in mind I'm not calling for their ban, their arrest, or their execution. I don't hate them. I'm not saying this one screenshot anyone here can find is the straw that broke the camel's back and why Yoshi P needs to ban modding 5ever.

I'm just saying it's *weird.* Do you think it's normal content you'd expect to see on the FFXIV artwork section?

Yes, it’s weird, but so what? There’re a lot of weird people I see everyday, but I don’t make comments about them.

[Aya]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Cheating, modding and botting is aok. Uhh what were the rules again?

> Pictures only show mods
> Mention cheating and botting

1+1=3 is this guy

[Shield]

Originally posted by Aya:

Originally posted by Shield:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3388386201

C'mon bro, you really don't think this is weird?

Keep in mind I'm not calling for their ban, their arrest, or their execution. I don't hate them. I'm not saying this one screenshot anyone here can find is the straw that broke the camel's back and why Yoshi P needs to ban modding 5ever.

I'm just saying it's *weird.* Do you think it's normal content you'd expect to see on the FFXIV artwork section?

Yes, it’s weird, but so what? There’re a lot of weird people I see everyday, but I don’t make comments about them.

Agreed completely, which to be clear, is why my opinion is reserved for a relevant topic (not even posted by me) on the discussion board, and not directly commenting smth disapproving on that person's screenshot.

Seems like we're of one mind all around, really. How nice!

[Aya]

Originally posted by Shield:

Originally posted by Aya:

Yes, it’s weird, but so what? There’re a lot of weird people I see everyday, but I don’t make comments about them.

Agreed completely, which to be clear, is why my opinion is reserved for a relevant topic (not even posted by me) on the discussion board, and not directly commenting smth disapproving on that person's screenshot.

Seems like we're of one mind all around, really. How nice!

Two things can be true, at least we are in agreement.

[Holmgäng]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

So I checked out the "Artwork" section here and it's literally full off modded game pics. What did some of you guys say about cheating and modding not being blatant? ICANT

Ban them

[Aya]

Originally posted by Protocol:

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

So I checked out the "Artwork" section here and it's literally full off modded game pics. What did some of you guys say about cheating and modding not being blatant? ICANT

Ban them

Provided you have their name and server. You can contact SE ffxiv customer support and submit a ticket.

Act on your words.

[Lixire]

At this point it will be too late to take off mods/addons and etc as FFXIV is basically in a spot of where you have a lot of of people who use mods and depend on them for whatever that taking them off will be pretty much cutting through the revenure that the game makes each month.

Take off Noclippy/XIVAlex and the game becomes way worse for those who don't live near the server due to the disgustingly awful netcode that this game has
Some people use mods to mess around with their character that they feel attached to. take that off and people will leave as you did hurt the ability to bring their WoLs to life
Some people also use mods to add basic features like Chat bubbles or tell you what music is currently playing on

CBU3 had the chance in 2013 to add an actual anti cheat and set proper enforcement against addons. doing that now after more than a decade will be suicide for Square Enix

[Vlad Krapula]

Originally posted by Lixire:

At this point it will be too late to take off mods/addons and etc as FFXIV is basically in a spot of where you have a lot of of people who use mods and depend on them for whatever that taking them off will be pretty much cutting through the revenure that the game makes each month.

Take off Noclippy/XIVAlex and the game becomes way worse for those who don't live near the server due to the disgustingly awful netcode that this game has
Some people use mods to mess around with their character that they feel attached to. take that off and people will leave as you did hurt the ability to bring their WoLs to life
Some people also use mods to add basic features like Chat bubbles or tell you what music is currently playing on

CBU3 had the chance in 2013 to add an actual anti cheat and set proper enforcement against addons. doing that now after more than a decade will be suicide for Square Enix

The modders and cheaters are addicted to this game. They ain't leaving even if they ban everything.

[Lixire]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Originally posted by Lixire:

At this point it will be too late to take off mods/addons and etc as FFXIV is basically in a spot of where you have a lot of of people who use mods and depend on them for whatever that taking them off will be pretty much cutting through the revenure that the game makes each month.

Take off Noclippy/XIVAlex and the game becomes way worse for those who don't live near the server due to the disgustingly awful netcode that this game has
Some people use mods to mess around with their character that they feel attached to. take that off and people will leave as you did hurt the ability to bring their WoLs to life
Some people also use mods to add basic features like Chat bubbles or tell you what music is currently playing on

CBU3 had the chance in 2013 to add an actual anti cheat and set proper enforcement against addons. doing that now after more than a decade will be suicide for Square Enix

The modders and cheaters are addicted to this game. They ain't leaving even if they ban everything.

You do have modders and cheaters even in games like League of Legends that use a very aggressive anti cheat that runs at the kernel level and starts up with your OS
You have games like retail WoW that high end raiding requires you to use addons as the fights are designed around them + the game at its stock configuration is beyond awful as someone who did play WoW before and even gave the game another go back at the end of Dragonflight

Cheaters/Modders will always exist no matter what. question is, how much it impacts your experience?
In a competitive game like CS and League yeah cheaters shouldn't be there at all but PvE in MMOs? that's far less of an issue

[Aya]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Originally posted by Lixire:

At this point it will be too late to take off mods/addons and etc as FFXIV is basically in a spot of where you have a lot of of people who use mods and depend on them for whatever that taking them off will be pretty much cutting through the revenure that the game makes each month.

Take off Noclippy/XIVAlex and the game becomes way worse for those who don't live near the server due to the disgustingly awful netcode that this game has
Some people use mods to mess around with their character that they feel attached to. take that off and people will leave as you did hurt the ability to bring their WoLs to life
Some people also use mods to add basic features like Chat bubbles or tell you what music is currently playing on

CBU3 had the chance in 2013 to add an actual anti cheat and set proper enforcement against addons. doing that now after more than a decade will be suicide for Square Enix

The modders and cheaters are addicted to this game. They ain't leaving even if they ban everything.

Thanks god people like you don’t get to make decisions for this game, or any video games really.

[Vlad Krapula]

Originally posted by Lixire:

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

The modders and cheaters are addicted to this game. They ain't leaving even if they ban everything.

You do have modders and cheaters even in games like League of Legends that use a very aggressive anti cheat that runs at the kernel level and starts up with your OS
You have games like retail WoW that high end raiding requires you to use addons as the fights are designed around them + the game at its stock configuration is beyond awful as someone who did play WoW before and even gave the game another go back at the end of Dragonflight

Cheaters/Modders will always exist no matter what. question is, how much it impacts your experience?
In a competitive game like CS and League yeah cheaters shouldn't be there at all but PvE in MMOs? that's far less of an issue

If the company is trying to enforce some rules why are they there in the first place? Pf is pretty much enforcing mod usage nowadays. Is the game trying to become wow 2 now?
Like the mentality went from no mods or you are a loser to now evrything is fair game. It is cringe

[Stormy Dawn]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

The modders and cheaters are addicted to this game. They ain't leaving even if they ban everything.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Without their mods there would be little-to-no reason to stay and modders make up a sizable group of the lovingly termed "hardcore casuals" that keep this game running - the ones that keep up a constant subscription every month of every year. Not really worth the risk of alienating a huge sub-section of that group, is it?

[Aya]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Originally posted by Lixire:

You do have modders and cheaters even in games like League of Legends that use a very aggressive anti cheat that runs at the kernel level and starts up with your OS
You have games like retail WoW that high end raiding requires you to use addons as the fights are designed around them + the game at its stock configuration is beyond awful as someone who did play WoW before and even gave the game another go back at the end of Dragonflight

Cheaters/Modders will always exist no matter what. question is, how much it impacts your experience?
In a competitive game like CS and League yeah cheaters shouldn't be there at all but PvE in MMOs? that's far less of an issue

If the company is trying to enforce some rules why are they there in the first place? Pf is pretty much enforcing mod usage nowadays. Is the game trying to become wow 2 now?
Like the mentality went from no mods or you are a loser to now evrything is fair game. It is cringe

Your little anecdote isn’t the norm, I can find as many normal PF as you can conjure your delusion of a PF full of mods.

Your point proved nothing.

[Lixire]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Originally posted by Lixire:

You do have modders and cheaters even in games like League of Legends that use a very aggressive anti cheat that runs at the kernel level and starts up with your OS
You have games like retail WoW that high end raiding requires you to use addons as the fights are designed around them + the game at its stock configuration is beyond awful as someone who did play WoW before and even gave the game another go back at the end of Dragonflight

Cheaters/Modders will always exist no matter what. question is, how much it impacts your experience?
In a competitive game like CS and League yeah cheaters shouldn't be there at all but PvE in MMOs? that's far less of an issue

If the company is trying to enforce some rules why are they there in the first place? Pf is pretty much enforcing mod usage nowadays. Is the game trying to become wow 2 now?
Like the mentality went from no mods or you are a loser to now evrything is fair game. It is cringe

I play daily for hours and spending a lot of time in the PF. very little I did see parties that require addons and when someone does then it becomes giant news in the ffxiv subreddit

Every piece of content in the game is designed and tested around consoles where addons cannot be added due to the closed nature of the platform. you don't need something like weakauras to raid in ff14 at all.

[Raansu]

Originally posted by Vlad Krapula:

Pf is pretty much enforcing mod usage nowadays. Is the game trying to become wow 2 now?
Like the mentality went from no mods or you are a loser to now evrything is fair game. It is cringe

This isn't even remotely true.