FF14 first impression/initial experience as a GW2 veteran.

[DaniTheHero]

This isn't supposed to be an actual rant, nor am i intending to offend anyone who plays either game.
I felt like i should share my experience as a new player in this now increasingly popular MMORPG.


Note this is going to be VERY long.



First i'll tell about why i chose to be playing GW2 up until now to reflect on my latest experience with FF14.
I am not trying to sell the game to you, nor to "take away players" from here, as i barely play GW2 myself now.

I have been playing GW2 for a very long time, and although i have been taking breaks from time to time (as GW2 is known to having content droughts between Living world/Expansion periods) i always come back to it eventually.

GW2 has many things going for it.:

It has a completely free Base game with no time limit, so you can get any friend to try it out and not be restricted to pretty much any content from the Original/Vanilla game pre expansions other than some Spam avoidance and trading/mail system restrictions to avoid botting.

If you decide to pay, you get the entire game, including previous expansions at the price of one, with no monthly subscription, i repeat no monthly subbing.
You pay once, and hop on whenever you want, FOREVER.
No need to cancel every time you take a break and pay again when you return and if you play long term, no large stacked up sum. Just play when you want.

GW2 has no gear chase/treadmill. From the release of the game, the highest tier of gear has been something called "Ascended" and it always remains relevant as the best Tier of gear even a decade later. Meaning even if you take long breaks, you don't need to chase a new ceiling just to enjoy new content properly, and you can hop rightinto it as the same End game character you were before.
The only time that you'll need to get new gear, is if you want a different sort of build for your character, so you'll need a different set of ascended gear for those stats (This can be negated by Legendary armor, that has the same stats as ascended but you can change it's stats whenever you want. This however requires a huge grind to get).

The game has no Mana/Stamina system, nor do you use potions to even heal yourself.
Your attacking is only depended on your cooldown managements and your healing depends on your global class heal (That is by default your 6 key) that varies between classes. No annoying potion usage and purchase management. There is food, but it's used for self buffing.
This system complimented the game well, as the game, at least initially didn't have the concept of holy Trinity. Everyone mostly did everything, or more specifically, everyone was DPS who was capable, and accepted to heal themselves.
Later on as end game raids were introduced more properly, some sub-classes have emerged to sort of fill that old gap, Druid being an old school healer sort, and Chronomancer being a more traditional tank among others, but the mentality of everyone technically being DPS still exists. Some just serve side roles, such as DPS's that can also do useful Squad/party buffs.

The game has a dodge/roll system sort of like in Dark souls, that is limited by a cooldown. This makes the gameplay more mobile and dynamic, and instead of just standing still most of the combat,you dodge and rotate a lot to avoid damage that isn't just enemy AOE.

The combat is very fluid and action-y. Fast. You are constantly on the move, and at times even 'Spamming' moves as cooldowns are short and most classes don't really have more than 5ish damage dealing attacks, unless you weapon swap mid fight. There isn't really a time when you aren't attacking.

Mounts are fairly a new concept in GW2, but instead of having many of them, there's only one of each "type" of mount that serves a purpose(One for dashing, one for jumping, one for flying and so on), and you can change it's appearance with paid skins if you wish to do so.

Questing, although sort of only existing in the base game, is managed through heart areas, meaning you reach an area where the certain quest exists, and you are meant to to tasks around this same area to complete it. There's no fetch quests, no backtracking, no unneeded walls of text just for killing 3 rats.

in GW2 there is no "EXP" grind from killing mobs. You level up near exclusively from doing world events, quests on the map and map exploration. As you you reach the level cap in the base game, the EXP you gain in the expansion zones is used for gaining different sort of mini abilities, passive buffs or unlocking sort of mechanics or merchants that exist in these new zones. No boring hours of fighting the same batch of mobs to level, at ANY point of the game.

Structured PVP works well in theory, the action combat, the fairly decent balancing and the fact that most classes can technically do anything works well. SPVP is also separate from the "main"/PVE game. You can hop into SPVP from level 2, and inside there, gear doesn't matter, you are max level and all your abilities are unlocked. The only thing that counts is your skill as a player, your teammates performance and of course what you pick for your SPVP 'build' (The builds are instantly changable in SPVP). Sadly SPVP and WvW(World vs World) is mostly abandoned by the devs for quite a long time, so you won't really be experiencing anything new there after a while.

Voice acting. Almost everything is voiced. Story missions, the NPC talking around you, world events and so on.

Most of the content encourages, almost demands cooperative play. Soloing is almost never recommended, sometimes may not even be possible. For people that play MMORPGs, for the actual MMO aspect rather than playing it as a singleplayer RPG that sometimes have real people walking around you, this is very nice.

Of course i can go on praising the game for a long time, but the elephant in the room is:

The biggest issue with the game is that due to lack of funding from NCSoft, and generally the huge loss of capital for being one of the only MMORPGs without monthly subbing, content gets added less often. And periods of content droughts are common. if you are a veteran player that plays a lot you run out things to do, unless you grind for fashion or Legendary equipment.
However as a new player, you still have A LOT of content to go through for months or even years before you reach that drought yourself.

A lot of the content, or pretty much all of it that isn't Raids or fractals(End game dungeons), can be summed up to "zerging". A huge amount of players stacking together spamming something until it dies. Can be fun when it's new content, but gets old REAL quick if repeated. Raids and Fractals do require a more old school approach though.




Now let's actually dive into my FF14 experience.


I've obviously known about this game for a long time, as FF14 pretty much is ( or was?) a direct competitor to GW2, but i never researched or bothered with it as i was content with GW2 and the idea of paying sub didn't appeal to me.
However after many many years in GW2, the recent Exodus of WoW players to FF14 and me dying inside from the anticipation for Ashes of creation, i have decided to finally try FF14.
The game stated to give a 30 day trial that is mostly not limited, which didn't sound bad at all.
I haven't done much research still, and decided to just sign up, install and hop on.

I was first greeted by a.. confusing server selection. As i'm European, Light or Chaos seemed to be the relevant options and Light, was highlighted for some reason, so i assumed it meant i'd have better ping there so i chose it. Inside the server i also needed to pick a World and most were already full apparently. I picked one of the open ones, Lich.

I was then greeted by a fairly robust character creator which was nice, however apparently most of the choices do have some sort of influence on different ingame stats, though upon googling the differences, they are pretty much negligible (I wonder if some people pick things they don't like, but have favorable stats for the job they want in order to minmax here. A bit of a shame if this is a thing).

I was then presented with 8 classes that seemed fairly traditional in nature.
I usually play Strong DPS melee dudes, but i wasn't exactly sure what each job does from the ingame descriptions so I have decided to research a tiny bit and learned that 2 of the melee ones are more focused on tanking, the other two are more DPS oriented.
I have decided to go for the Lancer, as not having an actual weapon and using my fists didn't appeal to me.
Upon further research i have learned there are a lot of more classes to unlock in the game, either by "upgrading" the current classes, or complete new ones you can switch into at around level 50.

The opening of the game was a terrible slog. A lot of conversations and wall of texts of things i don't care about (yet?), no voice acting, seemingly outdated animations and no combat involved.
You're then treated to a lot and i mean A LOT of text walls, dull fetch quests, backtracking, and once again none not even the main quest ones are voiced.

The game, also assumes you have never played an MMORPG, or any video game before.
I appreciate the effort to make this accessible for pretty much everyone, but as someone who isn't playing a video game for literally the first time, this was excruciating.

I was itching for some combat to actually experience the gameplay, and i assume that at some point i could have ignored most of these and go outside to fight, but i didn't want to miss vital information that i may need by not doing these starter quests.

Eventually i was finally sent out to kill some mobs ( Kill some squirls! yey ! ).
And the moment i hit my first enemy, it struck me.
GCD 2.5sec. The combat is very, very very slow.
Even with more moves unlocked later on, every move you make, gives you a near 3 second delay before you can do another move. This was devastating. I could feel literally my brain counting down the miliseconds of the delay between me chaining even something as basic as ability 1 and ability 2.
There's also no real way to avoid damage, enemies completely lock on you so unless you are ranged, you might as well seem to be standing still.
I assume later in the game, enemies will have AOE's that you will need to move away from, but still, this seems awfully static.

It seems that a lot of aspects of the game are slow upon further research. Traveling, moving around the map and although they are mounts, they seem to be restricted in a lot of ways.

I also have learned that as a free player, i can't even party anyone ( unless a paid player invites me himself) or add anyone to my friendlist. Why? What if i wanted to team up with other free players that are trying the game with me?

I continued trying to grind ( As this seems to be the most efficient way to gain exp, and because i was tired of meaningless tasks and endless text from the side quests) to see if something speeds up, but no.
Upon even further research, late in the game there are some abilities that aren't restricted by the GCD that you can weave in, but the combat itself doesn't REALLY speed up.

I also noticed, although the character models, when zoomed looked quite nice and rather fan service-y. The graphics and the engine itself seemed awfully outdated.
Sure GW2 isn't the biggest looker anymore, and the engine is quite dated as well as the game IS from 2012, but FF14 being a newer game, a bigger IP in general, and having far more income brought in and funding put into the game, it's a bit disheartining that the game.. doesn't look good.

At this point i've done further research. How late game works, how gear works, how many things that MMO's do, work here. and the more i read, the more disappointed i started feeling.

Now after having all these first impression thoughts and after learning a bit about the future, i had one final thought lingering on my mind.
Even if this DOES get better later on, do i really want to be buying the game all it's expansions AND be paying 13$ a month for this?


When this realization caught on to me, i swiftly exited, uninstalled and after some thought, came here for this post.

[DaniTheHero]

WetNose の投稿を引用：

Another big black and white comparison that I expect many would agree with.

Playing FF14 I feel special, powerful, strong, a true hero, a legend. And the world I live in knows it from peasant to king I am respected. I feel good.

In GW2 I feel I'm a unimportant weak piece of squashy rat poo who can have the s*** knocked out of me by a mushroom. I'm nothing, I'm a nobody. I am the brunt of every joke delved by the pact. Even my comrades think I'm a loser. I give them a order and they tell me to eff off and go do their own thing. They even send me to my certain death in the hope of getting rid of me but the game respawns me so they have to put up with the sad loser for another day. I feel frustrated.

Rox and Taimi are awesome ):

[Jeeralt of Tilberia]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

I think people would be more tolerant of your criticism if you werent saying that guild wars 2 is great, which it isnt, Ive played almost every mmo on the market, and guild wars 2 is up there with the worst of them

GW2 is a good game/MMORPG.
It may not be the best nor your cup of tea but it is a good one.

It was top 5 for a very long time, despite having no subbing fee.
In fact in terms of player popularity, for nearly a decade it was on par with FF14.
Only the last year or so has FF14 blew outside being a competitor of ESO and GW2 and one to WoW, and that's due to the fact that these two games are similar to each other (So they appeal to the same audience), and Blizzard/Activision making a lot of mistakes.

I have played it for a long time, and i'm burned out of it. It has it's flaws obviously like any other game. Mainly having content droughts and the poor writing as of late.

This entire chain, you've been addressing this conversation as if GW2 is some obscure MMO no one EVER heard of or played before and FF14 was at the top of popularity Aside from WoW) for an entire decade.

GW2 did fine for a long time without subbing fee, a lot of issues came from management.
Would it do better if it had subbing fee? I guess so.

FF14 is also, most likely quite the good MMORPG, else it wouldn't be popular.
Is it my cup of tea, so far? Not really. I already shared my reasons for it multiple times that aren't just the subbing price issue.

Does FF14 do enough to justify such huge investment? Would the game suddenly breakdown or slow down if they lose some millions of profits from the dozen million or hundred million they already get per year? Probably not.

its free because most of the content you have to pay for, its free because it doesnt have the amount of people willing to pay for it as ff and wow does, its free because its bad, im not saying guild wars 2 is obscure, im saying its a boring game, and the original was better in almost every way

[LeftPaw]

Here's me getting introduced to the queen.
Your majesty may I introduce the God killer and Dragon slayer commander Muck.
Me: No, no I keep telling you, that was the other 40 players. I got feared before the fight started and fell off a cliff.

[weiss]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

Chiro の投稿を引用：

i still waiting for a reply to this from him <_<

My response is :
1) GW2 starts off fast , fluid and fun from the start.
Having no GCD at all means every ability has it's own cooldown, and you can also swap to a second weapon set for more variety. And although there is a sort of "rotation" in regards to using abilities in a certain order to maximize damage, you have far more freedom instead of just using predetermined combo chains that have an inbuilt delay between them.

You get all of your main abilities early on as well.
The character progression is mainly more about passives buffs/stats.

2) I am sharing my experience as a NEW player. That's the whole point. For all i know you can be completely right, and endgame combat is far more barable, even fun.
It doesn't change the fact that what you get to work with early on is boring and a slog.
How long can i press 1 wait 2 after 2.5 seconds and repeat before i completely doze off?
10 levels ? 20? 30? 40?

Telling someone to pretty much to reach the end of the game, for it to start being fun is not very promising.

Regardless even "pro ff14" comments here agree that the combat still remains far slower than most other MMORPGS later on, they just like it because it's gameplay that suits them, which is great.

and yet, you dont get my point. you cant state your opinion about a battle system which you barely experienced versus a battle system which you fully experienced. thats my whole point.

[weiss]

Regardless even "pro ff14" comments here agree that the combat still remains far slower than most other MMORPGS later on, they just like it because it's gameplay that suits them, which is great.

i quote now expecially this part.
first of all, while that is a true fact what you wrote makes it a difference to experience it on your OWN!!!! and i mean with that going up to lv 60. vs the experience which someone else made and tells you how bad it is.

question, and this question will throw your entire logic into a trash can: imagine you never played GW2. now comes person X and tells you the game is horrible because his experience.
would you ever play GW2 now? i answer that question for you. no, you wouldnt because you get manipulated by the opinion from others without that you even made the full experience yet. many peoples told you here aswell that the battle system later on is way more fun. but do you know what? you never going to experience that because you dont even dare to putt effort into it. you rather get manipulated by other opinions.

you seem to like dragonball too, dragonball is one of my favorites aswell (i grew up with it)
but same question here. if someone had told you that dragonball is absolute nonsense and really bad ... i doubt with your behavior here had you never watched one epsidode of dragonball.

wait theres a quote error somewhere here *tries to edit qwq* wtf o.o i cant find the quote mistake .. .eh i just leave it like this -_-

[LeftPaw]

Planning a attack in GW2.
Me: We have to attack that heavily fortified branded camp so we must plan carefully. Braham? You and Rylock come with me, Rox and...
Braham: F off dude, me and Rylock are staying here and getting drunk.
Me: Good plan. You and Ryhlock stay here and get drunk, the enemy won't be expecting that. Okay Rox and Kasmeer with me.
Rox: Do one loser. We are watching the last ep of game of thrones.
Me: Good plan. The enemy won't be expecting that. Right, new plan. Braham and Rylock stay here and get drunk. Rox and Kasmeer stay here and watch the last ep of game of thrones. I will attack the camp of 1000 braanded.
Does everyone know what they are doing?
:Rox Yes commandoh.
Me: Right I'm off.
Braham: Yeah, yeah, whatever.

[DaniTheHero]

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

GW2 is a good game/MMORPG.
It may not be the best nor your cup of tea but it is a good one.

It was top 5 for a very long time, despite having no subbing fee.
In fact in terms of player popularity, for nearly a decade it was on par with FF14.
Only the last year or so has FF14 blew outside being a competitor of ESO and GW2 and one to WoW, and that's due to the fact that these two games are similar to each other (So they appeal to the same audience), and Blizzard/Activision making a lot of mistakes.

I have played it for a long time, and i'm burned out of it. It has it's flaws obviously like any other game. Mainly having content droughts and the poor writing as of late.

This entire chain, you've been addressing this conversation as if GW2 is some obscure MMO no one EVER heard of or played before and FF14 was at the top of popularity Aside from WoW) for an entire decade.

GW2 did fine for a long time without subbing fee, a lot of issues came from management.
Would it do better if it had subbing fee? I guess so.

FF14 is also, most likely quite the good MMORPG, else it wouldn't be popular.
Is it my cup of tea, so far? Not really. I already shared my reasons for it multiple times that aren't just the subbing price issue.

Does FF14 do enough to justify such huge investment? Would the game suddenly breakdown or slow down if they lose some millions of profits from the dozen million or hundred million they already get per year? Probably not.

its free because most of the content you have to pay for, its free because it doesnt have the amount of people willing to pay for it as ff and wow does, its free because its bad, im not saying guild wars 2 is obscure, im saying its a boring game, and the original was better in almost every way

While i seem to directly respond to pretty much every sentence you write, you seem to always ignore most of what i say, and come back right to attacking GW2.

Base GW2 wasn't free at first, it became free after the first Expansion was released.
It's the same as the free trial of FF14, just with less restrictions (Imagine actually being allowed to friend or party people in an MMORPG?!)
You still buy the expansions in order to become a "paid" player.

Also again with the population argument.
These two games exist for years. GW2 for 9 and FF14 for 8.
Throughout the majority of their lifespans they had near equal population. the recent population growth in FF14 is to do near exclusively with bad decisions of it's competitors.(Blizzard/Activision's WoW literally collapsing on itself, ESO having shady privacy updates among other thing, and ArenaNETS GW2 becoming woke and having MAJOR management issues).

If in your own bubble, FF14 was beating and demolishing GW2 in terms of popularity from day 1, you are OBJECTIVELY wrong.

Regardless, my complaints about FF14 remain and instead of properly addressing them, you keep bringing up the game i come from instead.

[DaniTheHero]

WetNose の投稿を引用：

Planning a attack in GW2.
Me: We have to attack that heavily fortified branded camp so we must plan carefully. Braham? You and Rylock come with me, Rox and...
Braham: F off dude, me and Rylock are staying here and getting drunk.
Me: Good plan. You and Ryhlock stay here and get drunk, the enemy won't be expecting that. Okay Rox and Kasmeer with me.
Rox: Do one loser. We are watching the last ep of game of thrones.
Me: Good plan. The enemy won't be expecting that. Right, new plan. Braham and Rylock stay here and get drunk. Rox and Kasmeer stay here and watch the last ep of game of thrones. I will attack the camp of 1000 braanded.
Does everyone know what they are doing?
:Rox Yes commandoh.
Me: Right I'm off.
Braham: Yeah, yeah, whatever.

In all honestly, i don't like Marg and Kas hah.
Braham is hit or miss.
But Rytlock, Taimi and Rox are cool :D

[Jeeralt of Tilberia]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

its free because most of the content you have to pay for, its free because it doesnt have the amount of people willing to pay for it as ff and wow does, its free because its bad, im not saying guild wars 2 is obscure, im saying its a boring game, and the original was better in almost every way

While i seem to directly respond to pretty much every sentence you write, you seem to always ignore most of what i say, and come back right to attacking GW2.

Base GW2 wasn't free at first, it became free after the first Expansion was released.
It's the same as the free trial of FF14, just with less restrictions (Imagine actually being allowed to friend or party people in an MMORPG?!)
You still buy the expansions in order to become a "paid" player.

Also again with the population argument.
These two games exist for years. GW2 for 9 and FF14 for 8.
Throughout the majority of their lifespans they had near equal population. the recent population growth in FF14 is to do near exclusively with bad decisions of it's competitors.(Blizzard/Activision's WoW literally collapsing on itself, ESO having shady privacy updates among other thing, and ArenaNETS GW2 becoming woke and having MAJOR management issues).

If in your own bubble, FF14 was beating and demolishing GW2 in terms of popularity from day 1, you are OBJECTIVELY wrong.

Regardless, my complaints about FF14 remain and instead of properly addressing them, you keep bringing up the game i come from instead.

I never said ff was beating gw2 in terms of popularity from day one, ff launch was a farce, famously so, all im saying is that gw2 is one of the worst mmo's I have ever played, and boy have I played a lot of them, it not harnessing the use of gpus and instead deciding to run almost entirely off of cpu is issue enough, game runs like ass on god tier rigs

[DaniTheHero]

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

While i seem to directly respond to pretty much every sentence you write, you seem to always ignore most of what i say, and come back right to attacking GW2.

Base GW2 wasn't free at first, it became free after the first Expansion was released.
It's the same as the free trial of FF14, just with less restrictions (Imagine actually being allowed to friend or party people in an MMORPG?!)
You still buy the expansions in order to become a "paid" player.

Also again with the population argument.
These two games exist for years. GW2 for 9 and FF14 for 8.
Throughout the majority of their lifespans they had near equal population. the recent population growth in FF14 is to do near exclusively with bad decisions of it's competitors.(Blizzard/Activision's WoW literally collapsing on itself, ESO having shady privacy updates among other thing, and ArenaNETS GW2 becoming woke and having MAJOR management issues).

If in your own bubble, FF14 was beating and demolishing GW2 in terms of popularity from day 1, you are OBJECTIVELY wrong.

Regardless, my complaints about FF14 remain and instead of properly addressing them, you keep bringing up the game i come from instead.

I never said ff was beating gw2 in terms of popularity from day one, ff launch was a farce, famously so, all im saying is that gw2 is one of the worst mmo's I have ever played, and boy have I played a lot of them, it not harnessing the use of gpus and instead deciding to run almost entirely off of cpu is issue enough, game runs like ass on god tier rigs

If your stance is that you simply don't like GW2 as a game,. that's completely fine.
In the same vain, FF14 is the most boring MMORPG i have played in recent memory as well, and i played many.
Maybe i should try ESO, idk. heard it's dying faster than GW2.

[Jeeralt of Tilberia]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

I never said ff was beating gw2 in terms of popularity from day one, ff launch was a farce, famously so, all im saying is that gw2 is one of the worst mmo's I have ever played, and boy have I played a lot of them, it not harnessing the use of gpus and instead deciding to run almost entirely off of cpu is issue enough, game runs like ass on god tier rigs

If your stance is that you simply don't like GW2 as a game,. that's completely fine.
In the same vain, FF14 is the most boring MMORPG i have played in recent memory as well, and i played many.
Maybe i should try ESO, idk. heard it's dying faster than GW2.

I mean like it or not, FF is now the premier mmo, kicking the ♥♥♥♥ out of wow because its simply better, if you arent at least lvl 40, which you can get to in a few hours, then stop commenting on the combat, stop commenting on the content, stop commenting on the quests, you havnt experienced any of it

[MOSLEY]

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

If your stance is that you simply don't like GW2 as a game,. that's completely fine.
In the same vain, FF14 is the most boring MMORPG i have played in recent memory as well, and i played many.
Maybe i should try ESO, idk. heard it's dying faster than GW2.

I mean like it or not, FF is now the premier mmo, kicking the ♥♥♥♥ out of wow because its simply better, if you arent at least lvl 40, which you can get to in a few hours, then stop commenting on the combat, stop commenting on the content, stop commenting on the quests, you havnt experienced any of it

I think it's a bit too early to be calling FFXIV "the premier MMO". I'm expecting a lot of the WoW migrants to be tourists who don't even finish the MSQ before moving on. Hype doesn't last forever. The new MMO honeymoon period doesn't last forever.

[DaniTheHero]

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

If your stance is that you simply don't like GW2 as a game,. that's completely fine.
In the same vain, FF14 is the most boring MMORPG i have played in recent memory as well, and i played many.
Maybe i should try ESO, idk. heard it's dying faster than GW2.

I mean like it or not, FF is now the premier mmo, kicking the ♥♥♥♥ out of wow because its simply better, if you arent at least lvl 40, which you can get to in a few hours, then stop commenting on the combat, stop commenting on the content, stop commenting on the quests, you havnt experienced any of it

The beginning of the game is important, if not one of the most important parts of a game, especially an MMO.
If the start is so mind boggling boring and slow, most people won't stick around just because people who have been playing for hundreds of hours already tell them to stick around till it eventually gets better.
This is no different than recommending me a show that only gets interesting by season 3.

[DaniTheHero]

MOSLEY の投稿を引用：

Jeeralt of Tilberia の投稿を引用：

I mean like it or not, FF is now the premier mmo, kicking the ♥♥♥♥ out of wow because its simply better, if you arent at least lvl 40, which you can get to in a few hours, then stop commenting on the combat, stop commenting on the content, stop commenting on the quests, you havnt experienced any of it

I think it's a bit too early to be calling FFXIV "the premier MMO". I'm expecting a lot of the WoW migrants to be tourists who don't even finish the MSQ before moving on. Hype doesn't last forever. The new MMO honeymoon period doesn't last forever.

Ashes of Creation is where my hype and hope lies.
I won't hold my breath for New World.

[MOSLEY]

DaniTheHero の投稿を引用：

The beginning of the game is important, if not one of the most important parts of a game, especially an MMO.
If the start is so mind boggling boring and slow, most people won't stick around just because people who have been playing for hundreds of hours already tell them to stick around till it eventually gets better.
This is no different than recommending me a show that only gets interesting by season 3.

The beginning of the game represents <1% of your playtime in an MMO. It isn't the first 2 seasons, you haven't finished the pilot episode yet.