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Look. We're a bunch of nerds talking shop at 3 AM on the Steam forums. Let us have our debates that let us forget that meeting with the jerks from sales in the morning for 5 damn minutes. :P
Bahamut - Trapped by the Allegans, recently taken down by the Warrior of Light
Tiamat - Imprisoned in Azys Lla
Hraesvelgr - Resting in Sohn Al
Nidhogg - Deceased, Spirit Destroyed by the Dragon's Song (Warrior of Light)
Ratatoskr - Deceased, Betrayed by the Knights Twelve thousands of years ago.
We actually haven't met, seen, or heard anything about Azdaja and Vrtra yet. They very well could be the Dusk Mother and Dawn Father. Those are titles given to their ancestors by the Au'Ra, not dragon names.
EDIT: In fact, I'm pretty sure the Holy See probably had a stash on-hand to test the Auri when they arrived, or secured one. Of magicked dragon's blood. Which only works on people who are connected to dragons.
So yeah, your entire argument falls apart when they stopped calling Auri dragons because they were not, in fact, draconic. I also haven't seen this "BUT DRAGONS SAY THEY'RE DRACONIC" stuff. The bit of lore we get in-game says they aren't.
Also no. The Holy See prohibits the use of Dragon Blood, they wouldn't be feeding it to everyone in the city as a test. Seeing as we're also shown in game that nearly the entire populace of the city WOULD react.
Your entire method of claiming how they would test people is fundamentally flawed.
So nope, not dropping it. No idea why people seem to ignore the majority of the end parts to the DK question be while trying to use part of it for this argument.
And saying "they wouldn't be feeding it to everyone in the city" is also fundamentally flawed, because we're talking about outsiders trying to get in to the city, not actual citizens of Ishgard. There's a reason the entrance is called the Gates of Judgement.
I don't recall any dragons saying that any Auri are "theirs." I provided evidence. But sure. Keep saying this because of your dragon boner when canon outright has an NPC saying, "No, we aren't dragons. Ishgard checked."
It's a city willing to toss its own people into a giant death pit because they might be a heretic...and yet Sigurdu is just hanging out at the Forgotten Knight, completely undisturbed. And if you make a Bee-line to the bar immediately after entering Ishgard for the first time, he's there, meaning he got there before the Isolationism ended. So while the player character, regardless of race, needed special permission from one of the noble houses to get into the city, an Au Ra Dark Knight is already freely walking about the place.
So no, I HIGHLY doubt they're draconic if Ishgard is letting an Au ra wander around town freely like that when their own people are often subjected to the tribunal/trial by combat and the Witchdrop.
It's a good point. Logically they wouldn't go around feeding Dragon's Blood to everyone no. But again, the part of what I said that you skipped over. The Holy See prohibits the stuff from even being in the city. So why would they be keeping a cache of the stuff on hand to test people coming into the city? Especially as you noted... a city that regularly turns away outsiders?
In fact, the Dark Knight questline directly follows an Elezen woman who's being accused of having consumed Dragon's Blood. Sidurgu takes interest because of similar persecution from his people. They ultimately find out in Aziz Lla that, the only reason that Elezen could have an affiniity with dragons without consuming the blood is because she must have the blood of one of the Broodlords already flowing in her veins. (Which, as the main storyline tells us, is true for pretty much all of Ishgard's Elezen populace. Possibly others via intermarriage.)
I'm stating that the assumption that they were "cleared" by a test of Dragon's Blood, literally heresy as defined by the Holy See, is a deeply unlikely scenario and exactly what I just said, an assumption. Doubly unlikely because that would mean the Templars were attempting to turn someone into a Dravanian within the city limits. Bad ideas all around, no? They're not even supposed to know that's the truth of the matter... and they're using it as a litmus test? They were most likely cleared in the exact way that their racial text states. Some scholars questioned the notion that they were related to the Dravanian Hordes. (Which is still true even if they are related to dragons. The two we haven't met are not allied with Dravania at all.)
Ever notice that the racial flavor text comes up with some pretty out there excuses as to why they can't be dragons? Horn structure and gender dysphoria. 10 to 1, the scholars mentioned within the established lore are EXACTLY how they were cleared of being dragons. With a convenient excuse. You don't need much more than that in a religious inquiry.
Now provide evidence of how they "checked". I'm not taking your word for it. An assumption is an assumption. Nothing more, nothing less.
The most recent bout of isolation we also know was the result of a rather bad attack against the city and their need to recoup. As covered in a conference where the leader of the Knights Templar somehow sits down with our group outside the closed off city. Further evidenced by how you're actually able to interact with outlying factions of Ishgard still outside the city before the expansion. And how they were more notably trading with the other cities in 1.0. We weren't allowed in, sure. However, they were still interacting. And we know that Sigurdu and his family were refugees from Doma.
The city either had to be open in the past, or SE wrote a pretty massive plot hole.
"As a child, Sidurgu lived with his family in a frontier town of Othard, until their settlement fell under the subjugation of the invading Garlean Empire. Unable to endure te stifling regime of their conquerers, his parents bundled him into a cart along with their meager possessions, and fled into the wilderness soon after his sixth nameday. For five years they wandered, seeking a place to belong, before their journeys eventually brough them to Eorzea's shores. Like many of their race, they found themselves drawn to the plains Coerthas, where they hoped to adopt the nomadic ways of their ancestors... But neither fate nor the Ishgardians were kind to the Au Ra.
Molded by a life of tragedy, the displaced Xaela found himself well-suited to the mantle of a dark knight. No bereft of family, master, and and fellow apprentice, Sidurgu wears his stern demeanor like a suit of armor, imepetrable to all perhaps but his young charge, Rielle."
He wasn't from the razing of Doma. He's 26. He arrived in Ishgard WELL before 1.0 at the age of 11. So please, stop. Your arguments are full of it and have no grounding in canon.
Also, it was Rielle who had the blood of a dragon. Not Sidurgu. So please quit harping on that. You know, the native ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ishgardian.
Othard is the continent Doma is on. When they say "Frontier town of Othard", they're saying it was an unnamed town attempting settlement on the continent of Othard.
"Othard is one of the three great continents on Hydaelyn in Final Fantasy XIV. Although currently inaccessible in gameplay, it is referenced throughout Eorzea. When revealing the design concept behind the Au Ra race, it was also stated they hail from Othard.
Othard is under control of the Garlean Empire , being the first continent the empire walked into when they began expanding out of Ilsabard. It was home to the city-state of Doma before its people rebelled against the imperial control and were forced to flee before their home was razed to the ground. The Garlean occupation has resulted in increasing numbers of displaced Au Ra seeking refuge in Eorzea. "
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Othard
You're grasping at straws. They aren't dragons. They have zero connections to dragons. You're thinking of Rielle, the little girl with him. Her father was a heretic who drank dragon's blood. A lot. (On top of being Ishgardian.)
Yeah, having a bit of blood lying around is bad, but having Nidhogg's eyes, which would allow Nidhogg himself to manifest right in the middle of the city if placed in the wrong hands, one of which they give to their greatest defender, (Who ended up going ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ multiple times because of it) totally fine.