New GPU, lower framerate

[Lauraliviel]

Up until today i used to play the game using my old gtx 970 gpu. My framerate was roughly between 110-144fps on the lowest graphic settings and depending on an area i was in.
Today i started using rtx 3060ti and my game runs at 80-110fps never going above 110.
Changing graphic settings from lowest to max does not influence the framerate by a single digit. I tried everything i could think of, fiddling with ff14 framerate limiter, resolution, every graphic option or even changing stuff directly in nvidia settings and the framerate never goes above 110.

Specs:
I7-9700k
Old GPU GTX 970 replaced by RTX 3060ti
16gb DDR4

GPU load at lowest settings is around 25% and at max settings around 50%
Maybe one of you will have an idea what to do with it.

[Ka-mai19]

You might have a CPU bottleneck. Check this out:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/intel-core-i7-9700k/bottleneck/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti

[Lauraliviel]

If bottleneck was the case then every game would be affected, i ran other significantly more GPU demanding games to test it and they ran fine on max out settings 144fps

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Lauraliviel:

If bottleneck was the case then every game would be affected, i ran other significantly more GPU demanding games to test it and they ran fine on max out settings 144fps

What other games are you playing? FFXIV can also be fairly demanding so it makes sense that the CPU would struggle a bit keeping up with a faster GPU. Also I think FFXIV is more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, so it'd make sense for your framerate to drop when your new GPU is processing things faster than your previous GPU, which means your CPU has to do a lot more work to catch up.

Other than that, I'm not sure if power consumption/voltage could be a factor. Something you could look into in the BIOS settings.

[Lauraliviel]

CPU is definitelly not struggling, most cores stay at 30 and core 3 jumps between 50/70% utilisation, also i was running the exact same CPU with a gtx 970 and holding 144fps fine.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by Lauraliviel:

If bottleneck was the case then every game would be affected, i ran other significantly more GPU demanding games to test it and they ran fine on max out settings 144fps

Incorrect.

Different games will bottleneck at different spots.

Bethesda games, for example, bottleneck at the memory controller and cache

MMO games tend bottleneck at the CPU to network I/O

These bottlenecks can happen even if your utilization is well below per-core saturation, because you're literally "Bottlenecking" at only one portion of a CPU core or structure.

Originally posted by Lauraliviel:

CPU is definitelly not struggling, most cores stay at 30 and core 3 jumps between 50/70% utilisation, also i was running the exact same CPU with a gtx 970 and holding 144fps fine.

You went from Maxwell generation GPU to Ampere generation, did you make sure to do a DDU uninstall of your old graphic driver? There are many significant architectural changes between the two cards. If any remnants of your old drivers exist, they may be conflicting with a current install and not properly utilizing the hardware.

Originally posted by caev37:

You might have a CPU bottleneck. Check this out:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/intel-core-i7-9700k/bottleneck/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti

This is an extremely poorly conceived test, this isn't showing the 9700k Bottlenecking the 3060TI, this is showing BOTH the 9700k and 10900K CPU's bottlenecking the 3060TI, and only demonstrating the 10th gen CPU's 15% IPC uplift over the 9th gen.

[Magistar]

Try setting the multiplier your 9700K to x50 and see what happens.

[Jin-]

9700k is bottleneck yes but it wont and should not cause frame drops with your new GPU.
Any CPU is a bottleneck in outdated DX11 game since it's not proper multithread game

Even my 8086k at 5ghz is a bottleneck

Originally posted by Magistar:

Try setting the multiplier your 9700K to x50 and see what happens.

Make sure you have proper cooler lol

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

This is an extremely poorly conceived test, this isn't showing the 9700k Bottlenecking the 3060TI, this is showing BOTH the 9700k and 10900K CPU's bottlenecking the 3060TI, and only demonstrating the 10th gen CPU's 15% IPC uplift over the 9th gen.

The test compared how well the 3060Ti performed paired with a 10900k vs. a 9700k. The games tested showed a ~10% frame drop difference on the same games+resolution.

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

You went from Maxwell generation GPU to Ampere generation, did you make sure to do a DDU uninstall of your old graphic driver? There are many significant architectural changes between the two cards. If any remnants of your old drivers exist, they may be conflicting with a current install and not properly utilizing the hardware.

That being said, this might really be the issue. If OP didn't erase old drivers+download new ones the graphics card may not be working as intended.

[Magistar]

Originally posted by caev37:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

You went from Maxwell generation GPU to Ampere generation, did you make sure to do a DDU uninstall of your old graphic driver? There are many significant architectural changes between the two cards. If any remnants of your old drivers exist, they may be conflicting with a current install and not properly utilizing the hardware.

That being said, this might really be the issue. If OP didn't erase old drivers+download new ones the graphics card may not be working as intended.

Simply no.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by caev37:

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

This is an extremely poorly conceived test, this isn't showing the 9700k Bottlenecking the 3060TI, this is showing BOTH the 9700k and 10900K CPU's bottlenecking the 3060TI, and only demonstrating the 10th gen CPU's 15% IPC uplift over the 9th gen.

The test compared how well the 3060Ti performed paired with a 10900k vs. a 9700k. The games tested showed a ~10% frame drop difference on the same games+resolution.

Both games were being run at 1080p. Both games were CPU bottlenecked. All the test showed was the 10-15% generation-over-generation IPC gain of the 10900K vs the 9700k That's all it showed. It showed nothing else. If someone is saying it showed anything else, they're editorializing, poorly.

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Both games were being run at 1080p. Both games were CPU bottlenecked. All the test showed was the 10-15% generation-over-generation IPC gain of the 10900K vs the 9700k That's all it showed. It showed nothing else. If someone is saying it showed anything else, they're editorializing, poorly.

If you get a 10-12% fps difference with a lower end cpu compared to a better one with the same gpu, wouldn’t you say that the CPU bottleneck is stronger with the lower end CPU?

I think the 11% bottleneck average is misleading since it’s being calculated against the i9 10900KS, but at the very least the differences in fps suggests that there is a greater CPU bottleneck with the i7 compared to the i9.

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Magistar:

Originally posted by caev37:

That being said, this might really be the issue. If OP didn't erase old drivers+download new ones the graphics card may not be working as intended.

Simply no.

You're right. It doesn't seem like you need to change drivers unless you're switching between AMD and NVIDIA gpus. At least based on a cursory search.

[Mansen]

Originally posted by caev37:

You might have a CPU bottleneck.

That simply is not how bottlenecks work. At WORST he would have identical performance with the newer GPU, not LOWER.

OP - Google "Display Driver Uninstaller" and follow the instructions (safe mode etc..) to completely purge your old nVidia drivers, then grab the latest ones from the nVidia website.

[Ruffio]

Did you remove old drivers and reinstall new ones from scratch? Or did you just put in new card and carry on with the current drivers you had installed?