Main quests that make you group up for instances

[sigina ✝]

I've always wondered how they'll handle main quests that require you to team up with multiple people in certain instances and raids, especially when those quests may be forgotten in future expansions or if the player base shrinks over time. Sometimes it feels like a total roadblock to the story when you have to sit and wait for the duty finder, and I think that’s a really bad design choice.

[Aidenel]

all the required stuff has NPC supports for 99/100 cases. and the rest fill eventually with the Roulette system as high level players needs tomes for gear.

[Lixire]

most of the MSQ content can be solo'd through the Duty Support or Trust system and those that do require a queue aren't too bad as the Duty Roulette will cover that with a large amount of people playing every day to get the rewards

[Last Place]

You always have the option of running it unsynced alone and there is also 2 versions of NPC Support that they added a few years ago for every MSQ battle,

[Катюша]

This just isn't an "issue" anymore. It's basically a solo game nowadays.

[A Digital Dog]

Man Steam discussions really have some of the most braindead takes I've ever seen. Yes, you have to queue up to do dungeons and raids. It's an MMO. That's the entire point.

Most content can now be ran with an NPC party, and even if you don't queuing does not take long at all. It is a very popular MMO with a large active playerbase.

Saying all of this is pointless though, seeing as how you're criticizing a game you don't even own.

[sigina ✝]

Originally posted by A Digital Dog:

Man Steam discussions really have some of the most braindead takes I've ever seen. Yes, you have to queue up to do dungeons and raids. It's an MMO. That's the entire point.

Most content can now be ran with an NPC party, and even if you don't queuing does not take long at all. It is a very popular MMO with a large active playerbase.

Saying all of this is pointless though, seeing as how you're criticizing a game you don't even own.

First of all, furry, I'm not criticizing the game. I'm just pointing out a specific frustration in an otherwise solid game, so it's fair feedback. Second, not everyone plays the Steam version. Lastly, I know most content can be run with NPCs, but then you've got stuff like The Chrysalis, which once took me 3 days to find people for.

[A Digital Dog]

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

Originally posted by A Digital Dog:

Man Steam discussions really have some of the most braindead takes I've ever seen. Yes, you have to queue up to do dungeons and raids. It's an MMO. That's the entire point.

Most content can now be ran with an NPC party, and even if you don't queuing does not take long at all. It is a very popular MMO with a large active playerbase.

Saying all of this is pointless though, seeing as how you're criticizing a game you don't even own.

First of all, furry, I'm not criticizing the game. I'm just pointing out a specific frustration in an otherwise solid game, so it's fair feedback. Second, not everyone plays the Steam version. Lastly, I know most content can be run with NPCs, but then you've got stuff like The Chrysalis, which once took me 3 days to find people for.

Oh, ouch. You called me out for being a furry I'm so offended. Ooooh, the psychic damage oh noooooo! If you don't own the Steam version, why in God's name are you on Steam discussions for this game then?

If you're having trouble finding people in queue, server hop to see if there are more people on another region. The game gives you plenty of options. The Chrysalis, unfortunately, is a very old Trial that not a lot of people queue for anymore specifically. Which is moreso the fault of Square for not putting it in the roulette rotation more often.

[sigina ✝]

Originally posted by A Digital Dog:

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

First of all, furry, I'm not criticizing the game. I'm just pointing out a specific frustration in an otherwise solid game, so it's fair feedback. Second, not everyone plays the Steam version. Lastly, I know most content can be run with NPCs, but then you've got stuff like The Chrysalis, which once took me 3 days to find people for.

Oh, ouch. You called me out for being a furry I'm so offended. Ooooh, the psychic damage oh noooooo! If you don't own the Steam version, why in God's name are you on Steam discussions for this game then?

If you're having trouble finding people in queue, server hop to see if there are more people on another region. The game gives you plenty of options. The Chrysalis, unfortunately, is a very old Trial that not a lot of people queue for anymore specifically. Which is moreso the fault of Square for not putting it in the roulette rotation more often.

I did not mean to offend, Mr. Furry. Just sharing my thoughts on the game. I get that server hopping can help, but it’s not a guaranteed fix, especially during off-peak times. And yeah, having older trials like The Chrysalis in the roulette more often would definitely make it easier.

[IcyMelt]

Originally posted by A Digital Dog:

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

First of all, furry, I'm not criticizing the game. I'm just pointing out a specific frustration in an otherwise solid game, so it's fair feedback. Second, not everyone plays the Steam version. Lastly, I know most content can be run with NPCs, but then you've got stuff like The Chrysalis, which once took me 3 days to find people for.

Oh, ouch. You called me out for being a furry I'm so offended. Ooooh, the psychic damage oh noooooo! If you don't own the Steam version, why in God's name are you on Steam discussions for this game then?

If you're having trouble finding people in queue, server hop to see if there are more people on another region. The game gives you plenty of options. The Chrysalis, unfortunately, is a very old Trial that not a lot of people queue for anymore specifically. Which is moreso the fault of Square for not putting it in the roulette rotation more often.

so what matters in this game is Piety ,,... each time you cast a spell it will CUT your piety which is 1000

be warned ,,...

[Alternity]

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

Originally posted by A Digital Dog:

Oh, ouch. You called me out for being a furry I'm so offended. Ooooh, the psychic damage oh noooooo! If you don't own the Steam version, why in God's name are you on Steam discussions for this game then?

If you're having trouble finding people in queue, server hop to see if there are more people on another region. The game gives you plenty of options. The Chrysalis, unfortunately, is a very old Trial that not a lot of people queue for anymore specifically. Which is moreso the fault of Square for not putting it in the roulette rotation more often.

I did not mean to offend, Mr. Furry. Just sharing my thoughts on the game. I get that server hopping can help, but it’s not a guaranteed fix, especially during off-peak times. And yeah, having older trials like The Chrysalis in the roulette more often would definitely make it easier.

I have rerun the MSQ not too long ago to get an alt character to a higher level quick and I did not have this problem, however this problem may occur in some situations.

The only way you have poor wait times for content and no way to remedy this poor wait time is if you are on the Materia data center. If you are on any other data center you can simply travel to a more populated data center and queue there. Alternatively swap to a healer or a tank for queues is also an easy way to get fast queue times; leveling multiple jobs while doing the MSQ is encouraged, since you will waste EXP if you don't.

Another way is simply using the PF, quite a decent amount of people will hop in on a PF simply to get the first clear tomestone bonus, since this is a quick run.

If you are indeed stuck on Materia, my condolences.

[Belphegor]

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

I've always wondered how they'll handle main quests that require you to team up with multiple people in certain instances and raids, especially when those quests may be forgotten in future expansions or if the player base shrinks over time. Sometimes it feels like a total roadblock to the story when you have to sit and wait for the duty finder, and I think that’s a really bad design choice.

Playing with other people in an MMO is bad design? Lmao.

So you'd rather just engage with the boring fetch quests, boring solo special duties, and boring paragraphs of dialogue where people stand around doing limited emotes. Ok....

[sigina ✝]

Originally posted by Colopatiron:

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

I've always wondered how they'll handle main quests that require you to team up with multiple people in certain instances and raids, especially when those quests may be forgotten in future expansions or if the player base shrinks over time. Sometimes it feels like a total roadblock to the story when you have to sit and wait for the duty finder, and I think that’s a really bad design choice.

Playing with other people in an MMO is bad design? Lmao.

So you'd rather just engage with the boring fetch quests, boring solo special duties, and boring paragraphs of dialogue where people stand around doing limited emotes. Ok....

Forcing group instances for outdated content just to progress the main story is.

[Alternity]

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

Originally posted by Colopatiron:

Playing with other people in an MMO is bad design? Lmao.

So you'd rather just engage with the boring fetch quests, boring solo special duties, and boring paragraphs of dialogue where people stand around doing limited emotes. Ok....

Forcing group instances for outdated content just to progress the main story is.

It is not a problem though, unless you are on a poorly populated data center, which there is only 2 as far as I know, and only one of them don't allow travel.

It only really is an issue if you're on Materia.

It might become a problem one day (?) but right now the population of the game is pretty high.

[sigina ✝]

Originally posted by Alternity:

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

Forcing group instances for outdated content just to progress the main story is.

It is not a problem though, unless you are on a poorly populated data center, which there is only 2 as far as I know, and only one of them don't allow travel.

It only really is an issue if you're on Materia.

It might become a problem one day (?) but right now the population of the game is pretty high.

I get that it may not be an issue for everyone, but it still feels like a bad design choice when content can become inaccessible if populations drop. It shouldn't depend on being on a specific data center to enjoy the story. Plus, not everyone will be on a high-population server forever.

[Alternity]

Originally posted by CiggyPop ✝:

Originally posted by Alternity:

It is not a problem though, unless you are on a poorly populated data center, which there is only 2 as far as I know, and only one of them don't allow travel.

It only really is an issue if you're on Materia.

It might become a problem one day (?) but right now the population of the game is pretty high.

I get that it may not be an issue for everyone, but it still feels like a bad design choice when content can become inaccessible if populations drop. It shouldn't depend on being on a specific data center to enjoy the story. Plus, not everyone will be on a high-population server forever.

Eh, the Materia DC problem is a little bit more complicated than that.

DC traveling is the fix, and it works pretty well. Granted, it's not advertised very well, this could be the actual problem IMHO.