Is Bard useful in Light Parties?

[Ozlo]

I looked everywhere and can find shockingly little information about this game. I'm trying to get my brother to play with me, and he is really interested in doing Bard, and I wanted to know how useful Bards are in 4 man dungeons. I will be playing a Paladin, and our friend will be a Scholar. I was always under the impression that Bards were great in Full Parties, but were lacking as DPS in Light Parties. Any information is appreciated.

[Aya]

Bard is still considered as a damage dealer in the game, if that's what your brother afraid of.

[Gabby]

Bards are Archers, they have a ton of DPS moves, the "Bard" aspect involves a few songs that enhance the party on top of their DPS. Yes, they're fine in small parties.

[zztoluca]

All classes do fine as long as their gear is up to par with the dungeon and you know how to play your class.
Bards/ archers do just fine.

[Shrump]

Good bards will outdps almost any other dps in duty finder, because people in duty finder suck lol. its completely fine as long as they know how to play the class properly.

[Oberon]

There is no "useless" class. Only useless people.

[Ozlo]

Alright thanks for the answers, we'll stick with bard.

[Nico Yazawa]

Bard is actually one of the lower end dps. And frankly, useless as a "role" in light parties.


You have to be extremely bad to need to use songs. (TP/MP)

Admiteddly, it's good if you got a BLM or SMN to foe req and big pull.

But otherwise it's better off being a SMN/BLM.

[Ancarius]

The 4-Mann's are designed for every class to be viable, only in raiding class composition is a thing. If he wants to play Bard just let him do it, besides he can still switch later with no big problem.

[Ozlo]

Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:

Bard is actually one of the lower end dps. And frankly, useless as a "role" in light parties.


You have to be extremely bad to need to use songs. (TP/MP)

Admiteddly, it's good if you got a BLM or SMN to foe req and big pull.

But otherwise it's better off being a SMN/BLM.

See this is the kind of post I thought I might find. I realzie anyone can be any class and you can make it work, but we want to be effective, not just get by. You're saying that they really don't have much place in 4mans?

[Ancarius]

IT IS JUST 4 MAN CONTENT. If you want like brutal efficiency then stop playing Paladin and play Warrior, make your Healer a Scholar and your DPS a Blackmage or Summoner so you can brag about your speedrun time for the daily roulette. There is no hard 4 Man Content. You do it either for leveling, Daily Roulette or because the main story wants you too. A Bard is great in 8-Man Content (where the challenge is) and even mandatory (or a machinist but thats only in the Add-On).

You want to min-max for things that don't need it.

[Ozlo]

Originally posted by Ancarius:

IT IS JUST 4 MAN CONTENT. If you want like brutal efficiency then stop playing Paladin and play Warrior, make your Healer a Scholar and your DPS a Blackmage or Summoner so you can brag about your speedrun time for the daily roulette. There is no hard 4 Man Content. You do it either for leveling, Daily Roulette or because the main story wants you too. A Bard is great in 8-Man Content (where the challenge is) and even mandatory (or a machinist but thats only in the Add-On).

You want to min-max for things that don't need it.

And you're trying to tell me how to enjoy my games without needing to. Your tone is hostile and patronizing. And for the record I was initially responding to Koishi's comment and not yours, I should have made that more clear.

[Lumen]

I hope you don't play on my server.

[Nico Yazawa]

Originally posted by Ozlo:

Originally posted by Koishi Komeiji:

Bard is actually one of the lower end dps. And frankly, useless as a "role" in light parties.


You have to be extremely bad to need to use songs. (TP/MP)

Admiteddly, it's good if you got a BLM or SMN to foe req and big pull.

But otherwise it's better off being a SMN/BLM.

See this is the kind of post I thought I might find. I realzie anyone can be any class and you can make it work, but we want to be effective, not just get by. You're saying that they really don't have much place in 4mans?

Oh man, I'm late. Sorry.

Well, they're "fine" for dungeons. But they really shine as a class in Savage. (end game raids) because that is where their support songs ACTUALLY help.

At the end of the day, if you want a nice fast dungeon run it all depends on the people's skill.

You could have the perfect party setup, but if nobody knows what they're doing you're gonna have a bad time.

[Big Boom Boom]

If you want info on the game, just get on reddit. From there you can find many sites for guides... It's one of the most popular MMO subreddit. Not sure how it's shockingly few info...