After years of not playing, are there still Gold Farmers?

[shadowbane]

Was thinking of starting up again, but not if those Gold Farmers are still a problem.

[Alternity]

I only remember them being a relative problem at the release of ARR.

Of course you can never get rid of them, but SE bans thousands of these accounts every week so you rarely see them. Last time I saw RMT bots was last year in Eureka, which there was only 2 and they got banned pretty quickly.

[shadowbane]

Messaggio originale di Alternity:

I only remember them being a relative problem at the release of ARR.

Of course you can never get rid of them, but SE bans thousands of these accounts every week so you rarely see them. Last time I saw RMT bots was last year in Eureka, which there was only 2 and they got banned pretty quickly.

Thanks. It's nice to see its not as congested nowadays as it was years ago.

[Integrity]

I'm pretty sure there are many gold farmers still. My friends always purchase gil at the start of every savage tier and they just recently purchased gil for the new raid. There are definitely a lot of sellers and buyers.

[Aya]

There's always RTM, as there's always a demand for gil. Earlier this week I sent my friend 20m in exchange for a steam game... it that counts.

[Integrity]

Messaggio originale di Aya:

There's always RTM, as there's always a demand for gil. Earlier this week I sent my friend 20m in exchange for a steam game... it that counts.

That probably doesn't count. RMT means Real Money Trading right? You didn't trade for real money technically.

[FreshMint]

Messaggio originale di Integrity:

Messaggio originale di Aya:

There's always RTM, as there's always a demand for gil. Earlier this week I sent my friend 20m in exchange for a steam game... it that counts.

That probably doesn't count. RMT means Real Money Trading right? You didn't trade for real money technically.

I imagine the point of an anti-RMT rule is to not give gil any monetary value anyway.
In the end they don't want people turning the game into a gameplay-affecting business but I doubt they'll care much about what friends do between each other.

[diealein (Kitty)]

yes but they got better at hiding. bozja, eureka, so many places to gold farm with so few real players around...

[diealein (Kitty)]

Messaggio originale di Aya:

There's always RTM, as there's always a demand for gil. Earlier this week I sent my friend 20m in exchange for a steam game... it that counts.

it does, but due to it being between 2 friends youll likely never get caught. Most of the time ppl are caught by association with accounts used by RMT websites to mule gold around/deliver gold.

[Катюша]

Gold/Gil farmers, and real world traders of Gil are as rampant as ever.

Square Enix cannot, and at times, do not wish to invest the time and money required to lessen it. Some might say they are unable to do, as well.

[Shield]

Messaggio originale di shadowbane:

Was thinking of starting up again, but not if those Gold Farmers are still a problem.

They exist of course but IMHO there's a distinct problem between their existence and it being a problem for the everyday game experience.

If you go into Limsa, you're probably going to see (if you afk cam) a few Lalafell or Hyur clipped under the ground spamming their goldbuying sites, and unfortunately because people participate in that (despite gil having comparatively little value in FFXIV compared to other MMOs) they will always return, because they make $$$.

However they do not DM you in my experience, and certainly they don't literally send your character ingame mail which is what drove me away from SWTOR. They're "harmless," unless you're especially sensitive to that sort of thing - in which case, consider that every MMO has a goldbot community and FFXIV is one of the games least impacted by theirs.

[Alternity]

Messaggio originale di Shield:

Messaggio originale di shadowbane:

Was thinking of starting up again, but not if those Gold Farmers are still a problem.

They exist of course but IMHO there's a distinct problem between their existence and it being a problem for the everyday game experience.

If you go into Limsa, you're probably going to see (if you afk cam) a few Lalafell or Hyur clipped under the ground spamming their goldbuying sites, and unfortunately because people participate in that (despite gil having comparatively little value in FFXIV compared to other MMOs) they will always return, because they make $$$.

However they do not DM you in my experience, and certainly they don't literally send your character ingame mail which is what drove me away from SWTOR. They're "harmless," unless you're especially sensitive to that sort of thing - in which case, consider that every MMO has a goldbot community and FFXIV is one of the games least impacted by theirs.

You can just report those using the in-game RMT report.

[Integrity]

Messaggio originale di Alternity:

You can just report those using the in-game RMT report.

Don't report people. Seriously. They literally have zero effect on you. Just mind your own business and let other people enjoy their game experience.

[LZXio]

Messaggio originale di Integrity:

Messaggio originale di Alternity:

You can just report those using the in-game RMT report.

Don't report people. Seriously. They literally have zero effect on you. Just mind your own business and let other people enjoy their game experience.

They... they do though? It messes up the economy and everything ends up costing a lot on the market board. Its not a victimless crime, which is one of the reasons its not allowed in the first place.

[Alternity]

Messaggio originale di Integrity:

Messaggio originale di Alternity:

You can just report those using the in-game RMT report.

Don't report people. Seriously. They literally have zero effect on you. Just mind your own business and let other people enjoy their game experience.

They're not people, they're bots. I'll report every RMT bots I see.

[shadowbane]

So it is still, in essence, bad. One of the reasons I stopped playing years ago was that I could not make my own money farming because everywhere I went, there were bots. It would have helped greatly if they got rid of that stupid Auction House in favour of shops where you could buy/sell your stuff.