300k gil cap for free trial

[Jeph]

There's no reason for this other than they want your real life money before you can buy some things in the game, this is super scummy, please change it.

[Ovan]

Originally posted by Jeph:

There's no reason for this other than they want your real life money before you can buy some things in the game, this is super scummy, please change it.

It's to avoid gold farmer and real money transaction sites that destroy the ingame economy.

It's also a demo of the game. If you want full functionality buy the game.

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by Jeph:

Originally posted by Veotax:

I mean, yes. It's literally there to make you want to buy the game, the game isn't free.

Well then why do they even bother adding more and more expansions to the game?

Lol what? Why add expansions to a game? Like, you genuinely don't know, or are you somehow making a point with this question, and if so, what is the point you're making?

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Minka:

There's nothing you can buy on the Free Trial that even requires that much gil, though? It's not like you could do any housing or anything either, since there's a limited availability for that which is available to the subscribers. It's already an overly generous amount, especially for not having access to the more costly driven endgame crafting and gathering activities.

At most there's the cost for one stage of the initial Relic Weapon grind, but that's 4 items totaling 400K that you don't need to buy all at once anyway. That alone is the only reason my main is sitting at about 550K instead of 1M.

Originally posted by Drakzen:

You can't use the Market board on a free trial account anyway so you wouldn't need more than that for anything you can actually buy anyway.

From my own experience, you don't even really NEED to use it for anything outside of crafting or getting some of the Relic Weapon materials, and if you're intent on doing that grind on a free trial, it'd be easier to just level every single crafting profession up to the point they can desynth for the HQ items you need to finish the Zodiac step.

Originally posted by Jono:

This kid really farmed 300k on a demo?

To be fair, getting 300K isn't that hard when the game hands you every piece of equipment you'll need just by doing sidequests and the money you get from questing just builds up since there aren't any real gil sinks in ARR until level 50.

[Jeph]

Originally posted by Kai:

The reason why they add a cap is so that they don't bot with a account to max out the gil then use money earned from RMT to 'unlock' them to further trade the gil for real money.

Bots can hit the cap really easily on unlocked accounts, but they get detected also as easily, so putting a cap on the free trial means bots only caps out at 300k instead of 1 Million or so, giving them less value to 'buy' the game to unlock and dump the gil elsewhere...

But the fact that there was a massive sale for the base game of FF14 means a lot of these Bots got access for cheap if they make a chunk of money off RMT.

RMT for FF14 isn't as appealing though, gil is easily plentiful and it's not satisfactory to buy your way through (if you really wanted to you can buy a boost on their online store).

The whole point of the online store's existence with boosts and all that is to appease players who might give their money to RMT traders instead of to the devs, to 'buy power levelings, ingame currency, items, etc.

Also a lot of time these RMT traders uses the Russian region (or equivalent currency level) of Steam to buy copies at a ridiculously lower price range, if the keys to the base game can be bought on marketplaces other than Steam or Square Enix's official online store.

They could also use stolen credit card information but that's painting a money trail on them.

Finally a good explanation that makes sense and sticks to the actual subject.
I thought about it myself and yeah, makes sense for the cap to be there, though i feel like it should rise with a few milestones reached in quests, maybe a few MSQ but mostly through side quests, as those don't always give out the best pay.
PS: really the only reason i haven't bought the game yet is that you can't go back to the free version with all the restrictions, essentially holding your character hostage.
Edit: They could add a banking system or something where essentially you can put all your gil with no cap somewhere and you can only buy items from normal stores with em, probably add a modifier to not be able to sell those on the market board, boom, bot problem solved.
Or maybe even go over the cap as long as you're in the store menu, soon as you tab out you discard all that.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Jeph:

*macroeconomic snip*

The Old Republic has a thing like that, where if you're over the currency cap, which is 1M Credits right now, then stop being a subscriber, everything past that goes into an escrow account that be withdrawn with a Cartel Coin item or just shunted back into your wallet if you re-sub. :P

[Jeph]

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical:

Originally posted by Jeph:

*macroeconomic snip*

The Old Republic has a thing like that, where if you're over the currency cap, which is 1M Credits right now, then stop being a subscriber, everything past that goes into an escrow account that be withdrawn with a Cartel Coin item or just shunted back into your wallet if you re-sub. :P

Yeah i heard about SWTOR, sounds nice but i don't go for star wars much.

[Oberon]

I'm still not sure what a trial player could even buy that costs that much gil.

[Jeph]

Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

I'm still not sure what a trial player could even buy that costs that much gil.

Very few things, which is why i still enjoy the game

[Oberon]

Originally posted by Jeph:

Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

I'm still not sure what a trial player could even buy that costs that much gil.

Very few things, which is why i still enjoy the game

There is exactly one item that costs more than 300k gil that a trial user could actually buy, and that's a mount.

[Jeph]

Originally posted by The Mayor of Murder Town:

Originally posted by Jeph:

Very few things, which is why i still enjoy the game

There is exactly one item that costs more than 300k gil that a trial user could actually buy, and that's a mount.

Well yeah, and i want that, also you never know what they might add later on.

[Seera1024]

The trial isn't meant for you to play indefinitely.

It's meant for you to get a feel for if you like the game or not and to buy it and still have goals to work towards.

A gil cap, on top of RMT trade controlling, serves as one way to keep players on trial with multiple things to work towards when they buy the game.

Things added in the future is not a factor SE will take into consideration when adjusting the gil cap. Because by the time later has come around, that player should have figured out if they like they game or not.

[Tales Delma]

A free trial account dosnt need big amounts of money. ofc they want to you buy/play the game. If you that far that you have 300k on the char you probably played a lot so why not going for full game at this point?

Also when it comes to boosts: you can only buy then once per account, not multiple times, so you cant "buy your way up" there are only there if you rly startet fresh on a account and want the boost, but only once.

The story gives you much exp, you never have to worry about active leveling, and when you reach the point where you may want to swap class, the lower leveld classes get more experience and you probably unlocked the roulettes at this point.

RMT is actually a BIG thing, depending on server you can see sellers all day in the city hubs, spamming links and offers. In partyfinder you see multiple sellers offering RMT for kills/clears.

You alrdy got the basegame + 1 expansion worth of content

[Jeph]

Originally posted by TalDelma:

A free trial account dosnt need big amounts of money. ofc they want to you buy/play the game. If you that far that you have 300k on the char you probably played a lot so why not going for full game at this point?

Also when it comes to boosts: you can only buy then once per account, not multiple times, so you cant "buy your way up" there are only there if you rly startet fresh on a account and want the boost, but only once.

The story gives you much exp, you never have to worry about active leveling, and when you reach the point where you may want to swap class, the lower leveld classes get more experience and you probably unlocked the roulettes at this point.

RMT is actually a BIG thing, depending on server you can see sellers all day in the city hubs, spamming links and offers. In partyfinder you see multiple sellers offering RMT for kills/clears.

You alrdy got the basegame + 1 expansion worth of content

Yeah, unfortunately i've been seeing those RMTers around, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks.
I really want to buy the game myself, but i don't feel good about the fact that i can't ever return to free trial after i've bought it.
I'm hoping they might change that, cause if they do i'll buy the game in a heartbeat.

[Slaanesh]

Originally posted by Jeph:

Originally posted by TalDelma:

A free trial account dosnt need big amounts of money. ofc they want to you buy/play the game. If you that far that you have 300k on the char you probably played a lot so why not going for full game at this point?

Also when it comes to boosts: you can only buy then once per account, not multiple times, so you cant "buy your way up" there are only there if you rly startet fresh on a account and want the boost, but only once.

The story gives you much exp, you never have to worry about active leveling, and when you reach the point where you may want to swap class, the lower leveld classes get more experience and you probably unlocked the roulettes at this point.

RMT is actually a BIG thing, depending on server you can see sellers all day in the city hubs, spamming links and offers. In partyfinder you see multiple sellers offering RMT for kills/clears.

You alrdy got the basegame + 1 expansion worth of content

Yeah, unfortunately i've been seeing those RMTers around, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks.
I really want to buy the game myself, but i don't feel good about the fact that i can't ever return to free trial after i've bought it.
I'm hoping they might change that, cause if they do i'll buy the game in a heartbeat.

Trial is for new players not returning ones.

IF you want to buy it play the free trial until you maxed everything to 60 and complete heavensward.
After that you need to pay anyway otherwise you are stuck without a way to lvl any higher and do any new content

[Jeph]

Originally posted by Slaanesh:

Originally posted by Jeph:

Yeah, unfortunately i've been seeing those RMTers around, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks.
I really want to buy the game myself, but i don't feel good about the fact that i can't ever return to free trial after i've bought it.
I'm hoping they might change that, cause if they do i'll buy the game in a heartbeat.

Trial is for new players not returning ones.

IF you want to buy it play the free trial until you maxed everything to 60 and complete heavensward.
After that you need to pay anyway otherwise you are stuck without a way to lvl any higher and do any new content

Well new content isn't all someone wants to do in the game, that's why people do DoH/DoL quests.