The Wuk Lamat hate meme is cringe af

[Adam__86]

I miss when Steam wasn't infested with anti woke clowns repeating whatever some random said on Twitter / X without any independent thought

[Moonlight Knight]

引用自 Giganx：

引用自 Sayo：

She's not bad because of woke or whatever. She's bad because she's a boring character that's taken up more screen time than any other character before. She's a side character that decided to make the main character.

I mean, is the WoL really a good main character? Basically a voiceless statue with no personality who sits there and quietly gets his ass kissed in order to hamfist the idea that it's "his" story...

Turning other characters into the main characters and putting the WoL in a supporting role makes WAY more sense. I think the new direction is very intelligent.

Honestly I would unironically love if the WoL turned into a sort of Mad Max figure from here on out, wandering around the world and accidentally getting entangled in others' stories, only being the main character in that he's the viewpoint character.

[Haru]

引用自 donut32：

引用自 Haru：

It isn't a meme.

It has nothing to do with politics.

I'm on many Discord servers where FFXIV is a hot topic right now.

A very general consensus is that people either find the character boring, or derivative, or poorly utilised.

Another general comment is on the poor English dubbing that has the emotional range of a brick.

the 'american' VAs were actually pretty bland. like bad.

Completely agreed. It took a massive nose dive.

[$CRWD]

引用自 ☠ Jordan ☠：

引用自 Lord Adorable：

This can only be a good thing. :ibthumbsup:

引用自 ☠ Jordan ☠：

Plenty of valid criticism towards Wuk Lamat has been stated numerous times across the boards. It's just much easier to respond to low hanging fruit (Anti-Woke Mob) than anyone who makes legitimate points isn't there? Like I see two people I saw in multiple threads here rushing to the defense of this character and the expansion yet anytime someone actually made well written and decent points for their subjective take; complete silence. Funny that. I mean if you have to focus on absolutely unhinged people who can't even define the words they are using to validate your own opinion, well.... I can't help you there.

It would be better if someone compiled these supposedly valid criticisms, and listed them in a separate thread. I've not seen any, but that's largely due to the fact that every thread - on nearly every game these days, even - is inundated with this brainrot.
I know that with Baldur's Gate 3, there was a thread that compiled development promises, with citations. Something in that vain would be valuable. Simply edit the thread topic to include the criticisms, that way they're not lost.

[Arbor]

I’m going through the story again without skipping anything this time. I don’t have a problem with Wuk Lamat. As far as the English actor goes the only time I thought they were bad was at the very end in the final trial. Otherwise I didn’t mind them and they fit the character well enough for the most part imo.

The problem is the pacing and just an overall poor scenario presentation. The meme of speak with Wuk Lamat is real. It’s a lazy/annoying way to progress the story.

[The Sin Of Cain]

引用自 Adam__86：

引用自 The Sin Of Cain：

They work on everything SE does. that's the point.

No they don't have you got a source beyond Trust me? Because if they did they would plaster it everywhere and be billionaires

My proof is that Square Enix is listed as a client, along with all their other work on Square Enix games such as aforementioned titles in this thread. The tweet they made for FFXIV specifically has, of course, been deleted like many of their tweets. Are you really saying that just because SBI deleted the tweet, that FFIXV is THE ONE TITLE of SE that they, for some reason, didn't get their fingers in? That's some next level "pretend it didn't happen."

Also, given the track record of SBI announcing that if they work on something, it's PR gets ripped apart. It makes sense they would delete the tweet as they have done for SO MANY other things they said/done.

So now I have some proof with SE being listed as a client, where's your proof they didn't other than "They didn't say they did, so they didn't. Trust me bro."?

[Arclyte]

You'll never be a real Wuk Lamat

[Caz]

引用自 Pietro：

引用自 ☠ Jordan ☠：

It would be better if someone compiled these supposedly valid criticisms, and listed them in a separate thread. I've not seen any, but that's largely due to the fact that every thread - on nearly every game these days, even - is inundated with this brainrot.
I know that with Baldur's Gate 3, there was a thread that compiled development promises, with citations. Something in that vain would be valuable. Simply edit the thread topic to include the criticisms, that way they're not lost.

What fortuitous luck that Steam has already done that for us:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210/reviews/

[Arbor]

引用自 Caz：

引用自 Pietro：

It would be better if someone compiled these supposedly valid criticisms, and listed them in a separate thread. I've not seen any, but that's largely due to the fact that every thread - on nearly every game these days, even - is inundated with this brainrot.
I know that with Baldur's Gate 3, there was a thread that compiled development promises, with citations. Something in that vain would be valuable. Simply edit the thread topic to include the criticisms, that way they're not lost.

What fortuitous luck that Steam has already done that for us:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210/reviews/

Can you link the Dawntrail one specifically?

[Theodoros]

引用自 Arclyte：

You'll never be a real Wuk Lamat

Maybe the real wuk lamat was the one we made along the way.

[Sally smithson]

I find wuk lamat very enjoyable to be around, I like how she grows over the expansion, how she comes to see cultures directly, instead of the sheltered perspective.
How she grows out of the "i must not show weakness" mindset.
How she forgives those who she deem are redeemable.

The emotional range is less than favorable.
While sadness and joy are really well done.
Intense emotions like anger seem.. surpressed. As if the VA had neighbors to think of.

I do like the fact that the WoL takes the seat of mentor, staying near and assisting. While letting Wuk Lamat learn on her own pace, but shouldering her fall should she make a mistake.

[manywhelps]

引用自 Adam__86：

I miss when Steam wasn't infested with anti woke clowns repeating whatever some random said on Twitter / X without any independent thought

i don't use X, what are they saying over there? Not a fan of Wut being the single main character for the first part of the expansion btw.

[Sel Und Irae]

I Could care less about her VA i just swapped to Japanese and problem is fixed, woo . .

The problem is awful MSQ writing, Dawntrail is their worst expansion to date and if they double down on it in post i will not purchase any of the products in future.

I'm already at point where this is the only game of theirs i look at due to sheer incompetency across all their other titles. They make fun gameplay but the stories have been dogwater for a long time outside of FFXIV, Only now is this company wide Brainrot infecting FFXIV.

[Adam__86]

引用自 The Sin Of Cain：

引用自 Adam__86：

No they don't have you got a source beyond Trust me? Because if they did they would plaster it everywhere and be billionaires

My proof is that Square Enix is listed as a client, along with all their other work on Square Enix games such as aforementioned titles in this thread. The tweet they made for FFXIV specifically has, of course, been deleted like many of their tweets. Are you really saying that just because SBI deleted the tweet, that FFIXV is THE ONE TITLE of SE that they, for some reason, didn't get their fingers in? That's some next level "pretend it didn't happen."

Also, given the track record of SBI announcing that if they work on something, it's PR gets ripped apart. It makes sense they would delete the tweet as they have done for SO MANY other things they said/done.

So now I have some proof with SE being listed as a client, where's your proof they didn't other than "They didn't say they did, so they didn't. Trust me bro."?

My source is the fact that nowhere online does it officially say Sweet Baby Inc consulted for FFXIV. Do you know how many games SE has? If you genuinely believe that SBI consult every single game from every clients catalogue then you have serious brain rot

[The Sin Of Cain]

引用自 Adam__86：

引用自 The Sin Of Cain：

My proof is that Square Enix is listed as a client, along with all their other work on Square Enix games such as aforementioned titles in this thread. The tweet they made for FFXIV specifically has, of course, been deleted like many of their tweets. Are you really saying that just because SBI deleted the tweet, that FFIXV is THE ONE TITLE of SE that they, for some reason, didn't get their fingers in? That's some next level "pretend it didn't happen."

Also, given the track record of SBI announcing that if they work on something, it's PR gets ripped apart. It makes sense they would delete the tweet as they have done for SO MANY other things they said/done.

So now I have some proof with SE being listed as a client, where's your proof they didn't other than "They didn't say they did, so they didn't. Trust me bro."?

My source is the fact that nowhere online does it officially say Sweet Baby Inc consulted for FFXIV. Do you know how many games SE has? If you genuinely believe that SBI consult every single game from every clients catalogue then you have serious brain rot

If you think SBi didn't touch one of SE's biggest Geese that lays the golden eggs, then perhaps you're the one with the brain rot. Though like I said, bury your head in the sand and just pretend it didn't happen. I'm not against DEI or "Woke Ideology" overall, just SBI. Legit any other DEI consultant firm would be fine, just NOT Sweet Baby Inc. They are corrupt, racist, and misandrist. Not to mention they have no issues threatening and using exertion tactics to spread their message of hate and get money.

[Haru]

I mean. I think the premise behind SBI is pretty cringe, generally.

But the amount of free real estate that they obtain in the minds of the crazy is unreal.