The Wuk Lamat hate meme is cringe af

[Adam__86]

I miss when Steam wasn't infested with anti woke clowns repeating whatever some random said on Twitter / X without any independent thought

[DontEatSmurfs]

Nico Yazawa a écrit :

DontEatSmurfs a écrit :

look i dont need to hide it, i played for 2000 hours, i keep it private exactly because i like to keep what i play private, i dont need people trying to know about me, if you are not my friend there is no reason i want you snooping around on what i do or play

also you can bet whatever, it doesnt matter, the fact is that every bit of information you gave were missleading or wrong, you can keep thinking that "+ hours means you are more right" but its just pathetic when you are wrong on everything, i have less hours played than you and i look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ genious, fcs you even tried to make a point saying HSW relic patch was the common one

like, i will list here stuff that you FEEL like you know

YOU FEEL like you know about relic releases and patches
YOU FEEL like you know enough about the story, enough to call the main character of the expansion "mary sue" but you couldnt explain "why"
YOU FEEL the expansion is bad but you cant explain why
YOU DONT FEEL like talking about dungeons and raids because you dont have experience so its better to ignore
YOU DONT FEEL like talking about plot points because again...you just have really strong opinions but zero knowledge

like you can feel whatever you want with your 10k hours, they are usless if you are wrong about everything, do i need to repeat myself for another 100 replies ? or you will keep being a clown ?
you cant talk to me because you know i know better, i was the one that called out the other clown talking with you the issue between you two is that at least he shut up when i started pointing out the plot holes of the expansion ( you could do it...if you knew wtf you were talking about )

DT was the wake up call people finally got when they realized "Hey wait, if the story sucks, what does FFXIV has going for it?" because that's all ever people praised about it. "It's got the best story in the series!" (which is laughable also, the story was never really good, ShB was nice but ShB brought its own problems into the game) the point is, DT story sucked. This is pretty evident by how many negative reviews the game had when it launched. It was so bad the game hit Mostly Negative on steam. Playercount is dropping, because of lack of content. Content, that, say, if was put in the game earlier than having to wait a full year might have kept people around, occupied and busy.

I dunno if you're in your honeymoon phase, white knight phase, or what, but DT was objectively terrible in the story department, and when all people ever praise and hype up is the story, surprise DT isn't a very good expansion.

You mentioned something about "tradition" but like, isn't that just another reason why FFXIV is getting so boring? Everything is so formulaic there is no surprise factor, there is no hype. Everyone knows when everything will come out and when something new comes out, it's disappointing.

Remember Island Sanctuary? People hyped themselves into thinking it was gonna be so much more, it was not. It was lame. Airships! Remember the hype? Glorified ventures you need an FC and a house for.

Oh look, Housing! You know, that system meant to punish players to never take breaks and unsub, we'll dripfeed content to make sure players stay subbed every month so they never stop giving SE money.

7.2, excited for the content? Too bad it's 7.21 you're excited for, come back in a month. Oh wait, the thing that you *really* want is 7.25, come back in 3 months so you have stuff to grind.

Even if I went into detail why DT story sucks so much, you'll just say I regurgitate what people say online, because guess what, people know it sucks and they talk about it. You're a troll that hides behind a private profile and will never be happy. As shown by how you just accuse me of being a limsa dancer, yeah sure, a 10K hour playtime limsa dancer. Nevermind the fact I have screenshots of raids and even the Savage exclusive content after Door Boss.

you see how blind you are ? how many times i said "DWT plot holes", "wuk lamat lied to the player", "the MSQ is complete trash", and you still cant understand that i agree...but sadly its you that i have to agree, someone that knows ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the game, thats my issue

all your opinions came from someone else, you didnt play the game to know the MSQ is trash and again...no one played the game ONLY for MSQ, there is much more in there after the MSQ, another issue i have with you, because it seems you truly believe people play MSQ and stop playing
there is ABSOLUTE NOTHING to do after MSQ in your argument

the tradition of the game i spoke was about patch releases and imo the way it is now is actually too slow but its slow since stormblood, its not something new, its been there since forever, it started with eureka

i will say that you only regurgitate what people talk online because you never talked about the meat of the issue, you dont talk about plot holes that make the expansion being bad or how frivolous the main character act towards the issues she gets involved with

its easy to say "YAWTRAIL SUCKS!" it does, the issue is explaining WHY it sucks, i can explain it because i at first enjoyed a real deal of the expansion until i started noticing all the holes in it, i know exactly what makes the expansion dumb and i can verbalize it because i have the experience required for it, i finished the MSQ, i did the raids, i did the dungeons, i did the alliance raids and im teaching savage now for my FC

the same way i know whats BAD i know what is good too, the MSQ is TRASH, picks what you learn during 10 hours of story and throw everything aside to turn wuk lamat into this extremely wise charater that just want to have a conversation and peace

I KNOW what makes wuk lamat the worst character i have seem until now, but then i have to meet the group "woke x anti-woke" talking about stuff that they dont know
like i could ask "what makes the game woke ?" and you wouldnt know how to answer because wuk lamat is WEAK, she needs help all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time, she asks for help, she loses fight after fight, she has 0 acomplishments in her name, she is pathetic, but thats what made her GOOD imo, her being weak and needing help was the best part of the expansion the issue is what comes after

the second part, when we have the reckoning, FINALLY we will hit back HELL YEAH and the game falls off HARDCORE but this is something you would know ONLY if you played the game

it pisses me off seeing people calling the game woke now, was it not before in ARR when all the great leaders of all nations were strong independent women and all the guys were useless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ? why just now ?

the game is not woke, the story was written by someone from tumblr with zero idea of character progression and believes maturity is "to have conversations"

like i pointed out, we came from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HEAVENSWARD, if there was no heavensward to show us how people would react during war or stormblood we could even be fine with DWT MSQ but being able to compare the expansions and say "wait...this makes absolutely no sense with the story" is what will differentiate who played and who didnt and just copied another person opinions

thats why i ask, not even joking, play the game first then you can talk ♥♥♥♥, because at least you will know WTF you are talking about

[Sally smithson]

DontEatSmurfs a écrit :

it pisses me off seeing people calling the game woke now, was it not before in ARR when all the great leaders of all nations were strong independent women and all the guys were useless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ? why just now ?

"No, No. He's got a point"

[9/11 Gaming]

Honestly I don't get why Yawntrail has such a zealous defence force

[Calandir]

Somalia Gaming a écrit :

Honestly I don't get why Yawntrail has such a zealous defence force

Because people tied this game to their own personality. Great Community btw. There is reason this meme exists and why FFXIV community is viewed as cultish and rabid.

[Moonlight Knight]

Calandir a écrit :

Somalia Gaming a écrit :

Honestly I don't get why Yawntrail has such a zealous defence force

Because people tied this game to their own personality. Great Community btw. There is reason this meme exists and why FFXIV community is viewed as cultish and rabid.

Once again, insisting one's own opinion is the only valid opinion and that anyone who disagrees is "zealous," "cultish," and "rabid."

[Calandir]

Moonlight Knight a écrit :

Calandir a écrit :

Because people tied this game to their own personality. Great Community btw. There is reason this meme exists and why FFXIV community is viewed as cultish and rabid.

Once again, insisting one's own opinion is the only valid opinion and that anyone who disagrees is "zealous," "cultish," and "rabid."

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

[Moonlight Knight]

Calandir a écrit :

Moonlight Knight a écrit :

Once again, insisting one's own opinion is the only valid opinion and that anyone who disagrees is "zealous," "cultish," and "rabid."

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

You know what? It's honestly my fault. I keep expecting you guys to care about consistency in your behavior and trying not to be hypocritical and that's clearly not a priority.

[Stormy Dawn]

You know what annoys me the most at this point?

I have to have reported this thread at least two or three times over the months and they just keep letting it stay open for no reason. There hasn't been one single bit of constructive criticism or comments in this thread for a long time.

Worthless moderators. They'll close a topic that someone posts in that has otherwise been dead for a couple months in a heartbeat for necroposting, but won't lock this dumpster fire.

[Paroe]

Calandir a écrit :

Moonlight Knight a écrit :

Once again, insisting one's own opinion is the only valid opinion and that anyone who disagrees is "zealous," "cultish," and "rabid."

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

Tbh dawntrail isnt actually that bad. Its a solid start to the next major arc, and a return to the "you arent the main character, youre main cast" storytelling that was the entirety of the first 3 expansions.
Objectively the plot of dawntrail is fine, and introduces several different threads for plotlines going forward.

Its just english wuk lamat is as 'good' as rex from xenoblade 3, and theres no welsh catgirl and cute redhead to dilute it.

That being said, the haters have always been irrational culture "warrior" types. Levied and normal criticisms are few and far between, especially when those people simply cannot grasp the concept that they are not the main character (which is the entire point of dawntrail. Wuk lamat is the main character of dawntrail, the warrior of light is part of their supporting main cast).

[Calandir]

Paroe a écrit :

Calandir a écrit :

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

Tbh dawntrail isnt actually that bad. Its a solid start to the next major arc, and a return to the "you arent the main character, youre main cast" storytelling that was the entirety of the first 3 expansions.
Objectively the plot of dawntrail is fine, and introduces several different threads for plotlines going forward.

Its just english wuk lamat is as 'good' as rex from xenoblade 3, and theres no welsh catgirl and cute redhead to dilute it.

That being said, the haters have always been irrational culture "warrior" types. Levied and normal criticisms are few and far between, especially when those people simply cannot grasp the concept that they are not the main character (which is the entire point of dawntrail. Wuk lamat is the main character of dawntrail, the warrior of light is part of their supporting main cast).

If we're being serious for moment and not memeing, DT has potential, and maybe future patches will help with the story, but... I find it so... tone-deaf? the whole plot of Tural, it feels like it's not real place.

Are we really to believe tribe forgot their festival and it's own magic powers? Tribes united over dish? Valigarmanda being released and bakool ja ja never even getting scolding? Where was the ''scions will be enemies'' part from fanfest Yoshida told us?

There is so many weird and simply stupid decisions in DT that it's insane, especially after quality we got from SHB and EW.
And I know why, it's new writers, they need to learn, but can't they learn on something else like Trial story? oh wait we scrapped that, so maybe Raid story? MSQ is one of the main reasons most people play this game, like it or not. MSQ needs to be good, it needs to cover the holes ''MMO'' part has in XIV.

[Sel Und Irae]

Paroe a écrit :

Calandir a écrit :

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

Tbh dawntrail isnt actually that bad. Its a solid start to the next major arc,).

hahahahhaha Solid start? The last time i MSQ skipped like this was Stormblood, I re-watched it YouTube Dawntrail is Dogwater



All i see is "A return to form" From your message

Majority of the community DID NOT like the story, You cannot claim it was not that bad when playercount is to this day STILL cratering.

[Nico Yazawa]

Paroe a écrit :

Calandir a écrit :

And we can see such case right here. Defence squad is never sleeping.

Tbh dawntrail isnt actually that bad. Its a solid start to the next major arc, and a return to the "you arent the main character, youre main cast" storytelling that was the entirety of the first 3 expansions.
Objectively the plot of dawntrail is fine, and introduces several different threads for plotlines going forward.

Its just english wuk lamat is as 'good' as rex from xenoblade 3, and theres no welsh catgirl and cute redhead to dilute it.

That being said, the haters have always been irrational culture "warrior" types. Levied and normal criticisms are few and far between, especially when those people simply cannot grasp the concept that they are not the main character (which is the entire point of dawntrail. Wuk lamat is the main character of dawntrail, the warrior of light is part of their supporting main cast).

Nobody wants to play Babysitter for a Mary Sue with a bad voice performance. Also, the character that they force upon everyone who has more dialogue than almost every other scion in ONE expansions. The Scions have had ARR, HW, SB, ShB, EW and DT and Wut Lmao gets 1 expansions and beats almost all of them.

It's clear favoritism and someone on the dev team wanted to force it on people.

I wouldn't be surprised if most people finally changed their language to JP or French/German if they understand it because any of the other 3 languages Wuk is more "tolerable" but still a bad character.

[Paroe]

Nico Yazawa a écrit :

Paroe a écrit :

Tbh dawntrail isnt actually that bad. Its a solid start to the next major arc, and a return to the "you arent the main character, youre main cast" storytelling that was the entirety of the first 3 expansions.
Objectively the plot of dawntrail is fine, and introduces several different threads for plotlines going forward.

Its just english wuk lamat is as 'good' as rex from xenoblade 3, and theres no welsh catgirl and cute redhead to dilute it.

That being said, the haters have always been irrational culture "warrior" types. Levied and normal criticisms are few and far between, especially when those people simply cannot grasp the concept that they are not the main character (which is the entire point of dawntrail. Wuk lamat is the main character of dawntrail, the warrior of light is part of their supporting main cast).

Nobody wants to play Babysitter for a Mary Sue with a bad voice performance. Also, the character that they force upon everyone who has more dialogue than almost every other scion in ONE expansions. The Scions have had ARR, HW, SB, ShB, EW and DT and Wut Lmao gets 1 expansions and beats almost all of them.

It's clear favoritism and someone on the dev team wanted to force it on people.

I wouldn't be surprised if most people finally changed their language to JP or French/German if they understand it because any of the other 3 languages Wuk is more "tolerable" but still a bad character.

Speaking of "cant grasp the concept that the player is not the main character"...
Of course Wuk lamat has more voicelines than anyone else. SHE is the main character of dawntrails plot. Admittedly a mid MC but shes still the singular main character.
It just goes to show a bad VA can make a B experience go below C and straight to E.

Shadowbringer and Endwalker really spoiled some people because the warrior of light was the main character for those arcs. For the entirety of the first three expansions we were just one very competent dude with the blessing of light, and the way we were treated as a character reflected that.
Now that were back to being some competent dude, people are forgetting that we are not **the** hero, we are _A_ hero.

[DontEatSmurfs]

Paroe a écrit :

Nico Yazawa a écrit :

Nobody wants to play Babysitter for a Mary Sue with a bad voice performance. Also, the character that they force upon everyone who has more dialogue than almost every other scion in ONE expansions. The Scions have had ARR, HW, SB, ShB, EW and DT and Wut Lmao gets 1 expansions and beats almost all of them.

It's clear favoritism and someone on the dev team wanted to force it on people.

I wouldn't be surprised if most people finally changed their language to JP or French/German if they understand it because any of the other 3 languages Wuk is more "tolerable" but still a bad character.

Speaking of "cant grasp the concept that the player is not the main character"...
Of course Wuk lamat has more voicelines than anyone else. SHE is the main character of dawntrails plot. Admittedly a mid MC but shes still the singular main character.
It just goes to show a bad VA can make a B experience go below C and straight to E.

Shadowbringer and Endwalker really spoiled some people because the warrior of light was the main character for those arcs. For the entirety of the first three expansions we were just one very competent dude with the blessing of light, and the way we were treated as a character reflected that.
Now that were back to being some competent dude, people are forgetting that we are not **the** hero, we are _A_ hero.

no you dont understand, there is a site that tracks how many lines a character has between all expansions, in first place, wu lamat has 8k lines, second place, alphinaud with 5k, reminding you, this is counting EVERY SINGLE EXPANSION, wu lamat has more lines than everyone until now in the history of the game

[causality]

Are people just having a momentary lapse in their memory where they forget the expansion was about us traveling to Tuliyollal to help Wuk Lamat with the right of succession? Of course the story was going to be centered around her as the main character.